hello im new and just wanna saw i love vaping , havnt been into it too long about 4 months and just for the hell of it one day i put a clear tube onto my mouth piece about 3" long and took a few or ten puffs and it gets what looks like condensation that forms on the inside of it, but it never goes away i have had the tube i used for over 2 months just sitting out in the open and its still there, it wont go away unless i wipe it off. does that seem concerning to anyone else.try it if u dont believe me . thx
has anyone seen the "oil" the vaper leaves behind? cant be good.
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The oily residue left behind when you vape is primarily caused by VG. Vegetable glycerine. It's relatively harmless stuff. But all it is - is unvaporized portions of VG that either is spit up from the atomizer head or coil. The huge amounts of water droplets you are seeing is the remnants of the water vapor / vaporized material recondensating. No worries there either - just don't drink it. If it starts to bother you, run a q-tip through the mouthpiece to get it out, if the residue remains, flush it with hot water and / or ispropyl alcohol (rubbing alcohol) - should resolve your issue.
It's VG , most people seem to prefer mostly VG juices , i don't though. I am much much more concerned with diketone's that is so prevalent in e liquids on the market than VG/PG .
Unfortunately we will all have to wait many more years until any trustworthy data comes in that will reveal health consequences of vaping the stuff we use , it's way way too early in the game at this point.
Unfortunately we will all have to wait many more years until any trustworthy data comes in that will reveal health consequences of vaping the stuff we use , it's way way too early in the game at this point.
it can be either PG or VG -- not EVERYONE can inhale the glue called "VG". Mine is 85% PG, but I still get it; I stopped using clear driptips so I don't have to look at it.
Andria
Andria
I might have misread his post - is he talking about the oily residue found on car windows or the condensation in the drip tip? Or both? I'm so confused... bear with me.
Sounded to me like the condensate inside the driptip. I agree, it's unsightly, but what's the option? Going back to cancer sticks? I DON'T THINK SO! 
So I use driptips that keep me from having to look at the condensate. Vapor condenses -- fact of physics. But smoke kills -- I'll stick with vapor!
Andria
So I use driptips that keep me from having to look at the condensate. Vapor condenses -- fact of physics. But smoke kills -- I'll stick with vapor!Andria
I tear off strip of paper towel appx 1"x6" twist it up and push it into the drip tip and feed it all the way through to pull it out the other end every time I refill. My Evods get quite a bit of juice built up in there.
What is Vegetable Glycerin?
Edible Glycerin Uses, Benefits, Safety, Side Effects
Foods Containing Glycerin | LIVESTRONG.COM
Is Glycerin a Healthy Sweetener?
Vegetable Glycerin/Glycerine | Healthy Indulgences
Its in our toothpastes, hair products,skin products, it in pet foods, its good for people with digestive problems, etc.
A plastic tube and our throat are very different things. Think of the invisible things in the air that we swallow and breathe all day long , all our lives etc.
Not be a jerk but have you seen the oil on pizzas, hamburgers, fritters, cakes, and not to mention the oil in the air we breathe? Not to mention the oil that now is in all the ocean water and the fish we eat etc.
Seems like its always something. Where was all this concern before we vaped? We were inhaling combusted "who knows what" for years even though since the late 60's some weird extremists were saying smoking was bad for us?
Edible Glycerin Uses, Benefits, Safety, Side Effects
Foods Containing Glycerin | LIVESTRONG.COM
Is Glycerin a Healthy Sweetener?
Vegetable Glycerin/Glycerine | Healthy Indulgences
Its in our toothpastes, hair products,skin products, it in pet foods, its good for people with digestive problems, etc.
A plastic tube and our throat are very different things. Think of the invisible things in the air that we swallow and breathe all day long , all our lives etc.
Not be a jerk but have you seen the oil on pizzas, hamburgers, fritters, cakes, and not to mention the oil in the air we breathe? Not to mention the oil that now is in all the ocean water and the fish we eat etc.
Seems like its always something. Where was all this concern before we vaped? We were inhaling combusted "who knows what" for years even though since the late 60's some weird extremists were saying smoking was bad for us?
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Yep, it's great stuff... but if I try to breathe it, it suffocates me! It glues my airways closed!
Andria
Im not surprised, It usually made of palm or coconut oil and its been found that a large population is allergic to those two oils in varying degrees. Allergies to palm and coconut show up in nasal swelling, bronchial passages, digestive issues, it goes on.
Fortunately you found out with out too much harm and found what works for you. All I know is that I feel better vaping than how I felt when I smoked.
For a long time before I even knew about the alternative, I knew that my smoking "career" was nearing that point where I felt bad everytime I smoked. But I also felt bad when I didnt get my smokes...
Im glad I found that the higer the VG the easier vaping is on my throat and breathing. Higher that 50% PG hurts my throat almost as much as strong cigarettes did and makes me wheeze.
From what I hear the body breaks the vapor of VG/PG down into lactic acid. The same thing that your body produces when your muscles break down carbs while working out.
As you run faster, however, your muscles burn more carbs and produce more lactic acid, which quickly breaks down into a good guy (lactate) and a bad guy (hydrogen ions). The hydrogen ions are bad because they lower the pH of your muscles, decreasing muscle efficiency, and causing that awful burning sensation.
I'm not sure if this is the case with the vapor breaking down in your lungs or not. Although, I will say that you won't find many people telling you that working out is harmful
As you run faster, however, your muscles burn more carbs and produce more lactic acid, which quickly breaks down into a good guy (lactate) and a bad guy (hydrogen ions). The hydrogen ions are bad because they lower the pH of your muscles, decreasing muscle efficiency, and causing that awful burning sensation.
I'm not sure if this is the case with the vapor breaking down in your lungs or not. Although, I will say that you won't find many people telling you that working out is harmful
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I'm not allergic to either of those, nor to glycerin -- I can anoint myself with it without ill effect. It's just too thick to breathe, and too sticky when it condenses inside my lungs.
Andria
You're not the only one - I feel the punch packed in the PG at about 25-30%... anything over 30% - I'm more than likely going to choke to death. It starts off as an intense burn in the throat then works its way to my chest. Of course it goes away after awhile, but while I'm suffering, it's BAD. Too high of a PG concentration tends to dry me out rather quickly too. A lot quicker than it would a normal person.
I can agree it's from the vg, but Definately not from spitting up, it's surely from the vapor and reforming as the smoke travels. Bcuz I would be spitting alot of it out if that much was just passing thru right into my mouth. I agree I'm not wanting to ever go back to smoking, so whatever the effects of it are can't possibly be as bad as cigarettes. I'm just saying it seems like alot and doesn't seem to take long to build up, there must be mass amounts of it entering my lungs is all I'm saying and I don't cough or choke all day from stuff in my lungs so can't be too bad I guess it's just crazy to me how it never evaporates and builds up so fast that's all.
Dont get me wrong, I thought about the residue from vaping also. I looked up what PG and VG was , read hundreds of articles like those I linked and saw that if it was that harmful it would not be used in so many every day things and pumped into the air in Operating Rooms and hospitals and used in of all things respirators and asthma puffers.
Im was in no ways trying to imply that there is anything wrong in your quandary, we should be thinking all sorts of "what ifs" more in our lives.
There was a great movie a few decades ago with Lilly Tomlin called " The Incredible Shrinking Woman" it was one of the first times that media asked what the hell are we doing to ourselves with all these products and chemicals we bombard ourselves with in our lives.
You'd be surpised by a lot of spitback that caused in the chamber and ends up inside the drip tip though. Some of it's condensation, some of it's spitback... and some of it might be drool if you're vaping a tasty juice like the one I'm vaping now... carmel cheesecake....
I would not worry too much about where its going, though honestly Id love to see what actually goes on from the moment the vapor goes in our mouths.
There are hundreds of safety features in our respiratory system to "filter out" what is in the air. They are called bronchioles, all designed to filter out everything but oxygen to the millions of alveoli or air sacs. Most of us go through our merry day not thinking about any of this. One of the first line of defense is our mucous that lines the inside of our mouths to the lungs. If something irritates then we make mucous to protect. ALl down these bronchial passages are little finger like things called "cilia" that gets burned off the moment that cigarette smoke comes in contact.
I could go on, but I wont.... Unless there is something really out of balance the body is really good at protecting us.
All good information above.
Here is my take on this, for whatever it is worth. All I will say is I have read up on it for myself extensively since 09 and would urge you to do the same so you can make your own informed (as existing data permits) judgement:
Get an analog and a piece of tissue paper.
Get your e-cig and a piece of tissue paper.
Use both for the same amount of puffs, blowing the smoke/vapor out through the tissue paper.
Compare the two tissue papers afterwards and you will have a your own answer of which is likely better or worse.
Can anyone guarantee vaping is 100% safe for everyone at any level of usage? NO.
Can anyone guarantee smoking is safe? NO.
Is the safest option to simply not do either? YES.
Is it reasonable given the data available to say that vaping is safer than smoking? IMHO YES. I feel somewhere around 95% safer is an educated guess.
Is most of your base liquid PG? PG is used in hospitals to deliver inhalable medications, so proven safe enough for that limited usage. Both however have been discussed above.
How many chemicals are in a cigarette? over 4,000 chemicals, including 43 known cancer-causing (carcinogenic) compounds and 400 other toxins. These cigarette ingredients include nicotine, tar, and carbon monoxide, as well as formaldehyde, ammonia, hydrogen cyanide, arsenic, and DDT.
How many chemicals are in your juice? You could vape pure VG, PG, just a combo of the 2 or add nicotine and flavorings. Is this less than 4000? YES.
Are there unsafe things in some brands of pre-made e-juice? YES.
Are there companies that make safer e-juice than the ones above? YES.
Can you easily make your own juice with just a few known safe (for now) ingredients? YES.
I use an 80/20 mix of VG/PG and a dash of menthol crystals for flavor as my "daily driver mix". I think this is FAR safer than analogs. I used to have nicotine in the mix also, but do not need/want it anymore. On occasion I will use a different flavoring.
Hope this helps, good luck!
Here is my take on this, for whatever it is worth. All I will say is I have read up on it for myself extensively since 09 and would urge you to do the same so you can make your own informed (as existing data permits) judgement:
Get an analog and a piece of tissue paper.
Get your e-cig and a piece of tissue paper.
Use both for the same amount of puffs, blowing the smoke/vapor out through the tissue paper.
Compare the two tissue papers afterwards and you will have a your own answer of which is likely better or worse.
Can anyone guarantee vaping is 100% safe for everyone at any level of usage? NO.
Can anyone guarantee smoking is safe? NO.
Is the safest option to simply not do either? YES.
Is it reasonable given the data available to say that vaping is safer than smoking? IMHO YES. I feel somewhere around 95% safer is an educated guess.
Is most of your base liquid PG? PG is used in hospitals to deliver inhalable medications, so proven safe enough for that limited usage. Both however have been discussed above.
How many chemicals are in a cigarette? over 4,000 chemicals, including 43 known cancer-causing (carcinogenic) compounds and 400 other toxins. These cigarette ingredients include nicotine, tar, and carbon monoxide, as well as formaldehyde, ammonia, hydrogen cyanide, arsenic, and DDT.
How many chemicals are in your juice? You could vape pure VG, PG, just a combo of the 2 or add nicotine and flavorings. Is this less than 4000? YES.
Are there unsafe things in some brands of pre-made e-juice? YES.
Are there companies that make safer e-juice than the ones above? YES.
Can you easily make your own juice with just a few known safe (for now) ingredients? YES.
I use an 80/20 mix of VG/PG and a dash of menthol crystals for flavor as my "daily driver mix". I think this is FAR safer than analogs. I used to have nicotine in the mix also, but do not need/want it anymore. On occasion I will use a different flavoring.
Hope this helps, good luck!
And thats what I was trying to make others see or read into all the convoluted posts, You said it so much better and did not come off as a "jerk" like I did. I read through it and I did come off kinda mean.... SOrry.
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