Has anyone tried writing a petition to lift the ban?
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No problem bro. It's just a simple email won't take much time.
Just curious what is their standard reply.
Go as high up as you can. departmentS, agencieS, ministrieS. PLURAL.
1) Think big.
2) Email is not formal enough. Letters would be better. Registered would be best. You can't get brushed off this way.
3) Get all the studies on ecig in order, and summarise the conclusions. Include studies AGAINST ecig and how they have been refuted or are biased/ information incorrect/ misleading info., etc.
4) Don't know the situation over where you are now, but not a bad idea to get your house in order. (Optional step)
I mean well. Not dissing you OP. Don't get the wrong idea. Kudos to you for trying.
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It does help if you are from the "upper class" or someone reputable in the country. Else most likely you'll just be brushed off anyway. Always remember we're just ruled with an iron fist, by the Emperor.
laojiaos alreadi tried b4
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/sg-vapers/203804-vaping-sg-public.html#post3619367
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/sg-vapers/203804-vaping-sg-public.html#post3619367
Before you start writing, read more and check out this history
Here is the recent report
http://www.straitstimes.com/breakin...ke-us-poison-calls-over-e-cigarettes-20140404
Would you want our minute community to reduce to ashes?
Here is the recent report
http://www.straitstimes.com/breakin...ke-us-poison-calls-over-e-cigarettes-20140404
Would you want our minute community to reduce to ashes?
The effort made by your laojiaos were done almost 3years ago, with little to no medical research or scientific knowledge backing any claims. However as of the past year or so, multiple journals have been published regarding randomized controlled trials into vaping and it's health impacts.
I guess the OP's intention was an updated attempt at persuading the relevant authorities in your country on reviewing the rules, seeing that now we have much more scientific backing on hand, albeit them studies to be of, not as large a sample pool size most statisticians would like to have.
Definitely worth gathering up information and pushing forward with getting the authorities in your country to review the legislation on vaping.
Never give up a fight (fight wldnt be the best word here, maybe say education of ignorant people) for what's best for the country. Citizens and the government work hand in hand to bring about progress.
I wish you guys all the best. A pro-vaping country is a country with less strain on its healthcare system.
That's true but our local context do not really care till some FDA has some how approved vaping. Our local system here has many bottles necks and red tape it will take ages to come to term with vaping is allowed. Before any approval by FDA,it best we remain silent
Just gonna throw this out there. I have written to several personnel and department heads in the HSA.
It was not an angry or pleading email. Merely a simple but extensive explanation of ecigs, how they've helped people, as well as cited copies of the most recent studies I've found regarding
1) preliminary assessments of effectiveness of ecigs in getting smokers off cigarettes
2) chemical contents of eliquids in comparison with cigarettes
3) chemical composition of secondhand vapor
4) eliquid production processes of reputable juice makers in the US
every single reply can be summarized as follows:
1) the WHO does not officially recognize ecig as a viable smoking cessation method
2) the FDA does not officially recognize ecig as a viable smoking cessation method
3) the FDA does not have any regulations and guidelines controlling and regulating the production of eliquids.
In essence, we have a very lazy regulatory body. These fellas will not pursue changes unless following the lead of the "big boys."
Now if you consider the not-so-old announcement for the tax increase in cigarettes during our budget release, it'll become even more apparent to you that this will not be happening for a long time; not only are they lazy to figure out why they're banning it, they DO NOT want to lose a cash cow. We are all a huge money pot for them.
Another thing to point out, I wouldn't be surprised if we start seeing ridiculous and sensationalistic news regarding ecig; our regulatory bodies have no qualms about stooping that low. Just for an instance, consider this:
I can guarantee you that 99% of the population, smokers or not, think that smoking will quite literally cause tar to accumulate in the lungs. Tar as in, the sticky black stuff they use to tar and pace the roads. Why? Remember the time when they used to paint this box in front of pedestrian crossing and said "this is how much tar a smoker has in his lungs"?
Except they know that tar is actually TAR: Total Aerosol Residue. It's NOTHING close to the black stuff in our roads. But they do that anyway because they know it scares us, and they will use similar scare tactics for ecig.
In short, whether we like to admit it or not, vapers in the red dot face a very very bleak future.
P.s. Not to be a party pooper, but I thought we should realize the reality around this.
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It was not an angry or pleading email. Merely a simple but extensive explanation of ecigs, how they've helped people, as well as cited copies of the most recent studies I've found regarding
1) preliminary assessments of effectiveness of ecigs in getting smokers off cigarettes
2) chemical contents of eliquids in comparison with cigarettes
3) chemical composition of secondhand vapor
4) eliquid production processes of reputable juice makers in the US
every single reply can be summarized as follows:
1) the WHO does not officially recognize ecig as a viable smoking cessation method
2) the FDA does not officially recognize ecig as a viable smoking cessation method
3) the FDA does not have any regulations and guidelines controlling and regulating the production of eliquids.
In essence, we have a very lazy regulatory body. These fellas will not pursue changes unless following the lead of the "big boys."
Now if you consider the not-so-old announcement for the tax increase in cigarettes during our budget release, it'll become even more apparent to you that this will not be happening for a long time; not only are they lazy to figure out why they're banning it, they DO NOT want to lose a cash cow. We are all a huge money pot for them.
Another thing to point out, I wouldn't be surprised if we start seeing ridiculous and sensationalistic news regarding ecig; our regulatory bodies have no qualms about stooping that low. Just for an instance, consider this:
I can guarantee you that 99% of the population, smokers or not, think that smoking will quite literally cause tar to accumulate in the lungs. Tar as in, the sticky black stuff they use to tar and pace the roads. Why? Remember the time when they used to paint this box in front of pedestrian crossing and said "this is how much tar a smoker has in his lungs"?
Except they know that tar is actually TAR: Total Aerosol Residue. It's NOTHING close to the black stuff in our roads. But they do that anyway because they know it scares us, and they will use similar scare tactics for ecig.
In short, whether we like to admit it or not, vapers in the red dot face a very very bleak future.
P.s. Not to be a party pooper, but I thought we should realize the reality around this.
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Another factor I believe they consider but will not admit to is the explanation to public if they allow E-cigs. Although there are lots of reports showing benefits of vaping over smoking but the public will not be aware of it. Personally, I have friends "warning" me that there must be some unknown effects that makes E-cigs more dangerous than traditional analogs.
Smoking being bad enough and allowing vaping is like opening up another "vice" especially for the younger generation which the MIW will definitely be blasted at if they allow e-cigs. In the meantime, they will just continue to push the blame of banning E-cigs to any organisations e.g. WHO, FDA, etc.
Smoking being bad enough and allowing vaping is like opening up another "vice" especially for the younger generation which the MIW will definitely be blasted at if they allow e-cigs. In the meantime, they will just continue to push the blame of banning E-cigs to any organisations e.g. WHO, FDA, etc.
Just for a pun.. I think till they find away to tax on juices..
But on a serious note.. nicotine in SG is a control drug, therefore its still gonna be tough. Just like our gums and patches, you can't anyhow buy from any mama shop.. LOL
But on a serious note.. nicotine in SG is a control drug, therefore its still gonna be tough. Just like our gums and patches, you can't anyhow buy from any mama shop.. LOL
Don't bother, just keep things the way it is. Can u even imagine if its legal? The trouble, the tax, u might need a "coe" to own a PV.
LOL that will seriously be crap haha... OR even worst.. u can only use HSA approved / produced juices wahaha
I read your post and this came to mind.
Anyway, there's really no point petitioning any government agencies from a social policy (healthcare) perspective. Do you forget which country you live in? The furthest they will go to to show that they listen to the ordinary man is to stage a dog-and-pony "Ask the PM" show that absolutely no one would bother watching.
Your petition will be torn up and used as emergency .... plugs for the MoH's annual McSpicy lunch outing.
It's all about the $$$. They will wait for some country to adopt a profitable tax/regulation scheme, then it's a matter of monkey see, monkey do. The powers that be will actually have my vote if the MoH/MoF get off their asses and do something about this.
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