Has anyone used this battery in the provari? Will it fit?

[jkmtwo]

Wait, so are you saying that if you buy a Panasonic that you could receive a counterfeit? So what's the point? I got my my Bart's from Orbtronic, and according to their info, and CKs info, its the same batt, the only difference I can see is the label from CK on their batts.

I showed photographic proof, you can see from the pic the Panny is taller, where's the photographic proof that its not?

That's fine, Ill go one better, this afternoon I will do a video just to show there is nothing wrong with my spring, the bards ain't dented, and all that jazz.

 

[jkmtwo]

Oh and then you can try to tell me how you know that Orbtronic sells fake Panny bats.....

 

[Str8V8ping]

The callies IMR's do have a button top and are about identical in size to the AW IMR's .Both work perfectly in the vari and neither wobble around in there for me. I dont use the plastic ring with either.

 

[mwa102464]

Oh and then you can try to tell me how you know that Orbtronic sells fake Panny bats.....

Take it easy jmktwo, I never said ANYTHING about Orbtronic so dont put words in my mouth, what I did say is the Callies or Panasonic is dam close in size to the AW, and MAYBE you got a counterfeit, and I also said the Callie's Kustom's work fine in the Provari and SO DO the Panasonic's, the AW is 65mm + or - .3 and the callies is 68mm there is more then enough play in the spring to make up for .3mm. you can make any video you like, the bottom line is the Callies do work in the Provari and if you would like to place a wager on this for whatever you would like I'm more then willing to do so and back up everything I said jkmtwo,,,,,,,,,, you should retry your Batt as well I think and see if you cant get it to work, if it is an undamaged, good, real Panasonic it should work no problem at all, unless your Provari's are different then mine and some other peoples but I think all there specs are the same.

 

[mwa102464]

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the callies imr's do have a button top and are about identical in size to the aw imr's .both work perfectly in the vari and neither wobble around in there for me. I dont use the plastic ring with either.

right on str8 !!! not so much a button top, a flat top but it sticks up 1mm which is enough to make it make contact with the Provari internals, @ jk, I have been running the Callies
(Panasonic) for well over a month and they do fit and work super in the Provari. I also run some AW & Redilast 3100 Batts which also work but you need to use the spacer or an o-ring with the 3100's

 

[Str8V8ping]

Not only will it fit but if you use the plastic spacer ring with it you can get it to wobble around very slightly if you shake it so it has more then enough room and doesnt compress the spring fully. Orbtronic may be selling their own version of the callies .Iv never ordered it from there because i havent seen the Callies stamp so i was unsure if they were the right ones.

Iv only ordered them from here
http://callieskustoms.com/CalliesKustoms-Batteries.html

 

[mwa102464]

Yup Str8, Exactly !

 

[jkmtwo]

Here is what I am going to do, I just ordered 2 of the CK bats. When they get Herr I will compare the two.

2 things
MWA- you brought up that perhaps I have counterfeit bats, and I got these bats a Orbtronic, thus you are accusing Orbtronic of possibly selling me counterfeit bats.

Str8v8ping- I never said they don't have a nipple, I said the nipple is recessed, and perhaps I should have made myself clearer the nipple is recessed compared to the AW bats.

Now how on earth you can get these bats to work is beyond me..


But I tried the little unscrew then screw back on idea, still nothing.

 

[mwa102464]

Here is what I am going to do, I just ordered 2 of the CK bats. When they get Herr I will compare the two.

2 things
MWA- you brought up that perhaps I have counterfeit bats, and I got these bats a Orbtronic, thus you are accusing Orbtronic of possibly selling me counterfeit bats.

Str8v8ping- I never said they don't have a nipple, I said the nipple is recessed, and perhaps I should have made myself clearer the nipple is recessed compared to the AW bats.

Now how on earth you can get these bats to work is beyond me..


But I tried the little unscrew then screw back on idea, still nothing.

Wrong again jktwo, I said maybe you had gotten a countrfeit Batt, not knowing where you purchased them and NEVER did I say anything about Orbtronic, I had no idea where you purchased them, so please again dont put words in my mouth that I didnt say, I never mentioned Orbtronic what so ever, only you did. Secondly the Callies Kustoms clearly work in the Provari and I'm only 1 of many who are using them. lastly the top of the Batt is NOT recessed, it has a flat top on it that sticks up 1mm, ( check the specs please at Panasonic or at Callies Kustoms ! if yours is recessed then you either have a damaged Bat or one that is NOT a true Callies or panasonic and thus one of the reasons I suggested you may have a counterfeit Batt. Being wrong is OK JK, there is no reason to get disturbed over this it has happen to all of us many of times. You can go to the Callie's Kustoms website or even the Panasonic website and read the specs on these Batts, panasonic having the better read on the spec's check it out here = Cylindrical type | Lithium Ion Batteries | Batteries & Energy Products | Industrial Devices | Panasonic Global
There are PDF files on the right side which you can click on to get all the specs,,,, it is what it is jkmtwo they simply work and work super in the Provari and many other mods too, and dont have a recessed top but ONLY A 1MM TOP !!! This newer IMR chemistry is super ! you can also check out these other good reads for info on them with some pretty good comparisons to other Batts =

There are 2 more reads about them here jkmtwo =

Review: Callie's Kustoms 18650 High Discharge battery | BudgetLightForum.com


Callie's Kustoms 18650 High Discharge Battery Review

It's all good man

 

[Striker911]

The orb battery does look to have a negative dish at the top. If u look in the PV you will see the board where the pos post is. Its in the way of rhe battery with a dish causing it not to make contact. Try a small magnet. I think its like that so the board can help share the shock if it was to be dropped so 100 percent of the shock would not just be on the battery contact. Tight tolerance. I would feel better with the stock battery if it had more power. I hate upgrading from a pinto to a metro, when the corvette is the same price. Maybe we should try Callies and hope for the best. Sounds like the most proven of the rest.

 

[Str8V8ping]

The obtronic panasonic batterys look to have the 1mm raised top to me . Heres the pic from their site.If yours are recessed then i dont think you have the correct battery or theirs a issue with it. 1mm should be enough clearance to not bottom out on the PCB.



Why is it not fitting in your provari jk ? Wheres the issue at. You could always try putting a magnet on top to make sure thats the problem. Cant hurt .If you dont have any you can get them locally at radioshack.

Just wondering since those arnt callies and are non callies labeled panasonics i wonder if theres a difference in the wrapper thickness causing the issue or even possibly a little swelling defect around the 1mm top.Either way a magnet will do the trick.

 

[mwa102464]

Here is another pic
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This side by side is NOT a true measurement of the Batts jkmtwo

What I would also like to see is you put your tape measure on the two Batts like I did, when you take into consideration the AW button top compared to the 1mm flat top of the Panasonic it measures dam close to the same just like I said in my previous post earlier I just did this measurement again, though the Panasonic looks bigger side by side the difference on the two tops ends up making them dam close to the same size. When I take my metric tape measure to both the AW & Callie's Kustom's both Batts are both 65mm long .and the AW usually says in it's specs + or - .3 I believe but both of mine side by side are exactly the same 65mm

 

[mwa102464]

Here is what I am going to do, I just ordered 2 of the CK bats. When they get Herr I will compare the two.

2 things
MWA- you brought up that perhaps I have counterfeit bats, and I got these bats a Orbtronic, thus you are accusing Orbtronic of possibly selling me counterfeit bats.

Str8v8ping- I never said they don't have a nipple, I said the nipple is recessed, and perhaps I should have made myself clearer the nipple is recessed compared to the AW bats.

Now how on earth you can get these bats to work is beyond me..


But I tried the little unscrew then screw back on idea, still nothing.

jkmtwo,,,, please make sure your Provari's spring is screwed/turned/pushed all the way into your Bottom cap and it is set properly, I have a feeling it may not be all the way in properly in your bottom cap. Your Batt should work in your Provari jkmtwo

 

[Striker911]

Id say its the flat button not making contact due to it not being tall enough. The board stops the button from not going into the connection?

 

[Str8V8ping]

Id say its the flat button not making contact due to it not being tall enough. The board stops the button from not going into the connection?

That could be but that would mean something wrong with the batt since mwa and i and many others have used these batts. Either way a magnet will fix it in a second.

 

[mwa102464]

His batts flat top also may have gotten damaged and pushed in from trying to force this and tightening up the bottom cap possibly, especially if his spring wasn't in all the way properly on the bottom cap. Either way we all know the Callie's Kustom/Panasonic /CGR18650CH not only works but is a super Batt to run in the Provari and as well Panasonic is one of the leaders in Batt technology.

Hopefully jkmtwo comes back and post after he figures out what was wrong, I'd like to know myself if it was his spring or what why he couldn't get the batt to work properly.

I also run the MNKE with a small rare earth magnet on top and these are decent IMR's as well, but I really really like the Callie's best of em all so far to date.

 

[jkmtwo]

Here we go

1. The flat top panny is a bit taller, even according the specs given by CK.

2. I never once said the battery does not fit, I said it does not work. Please note even provape says that flat top bats do not work.

3. I have 2 Panny bats that are the exact same size, neither is damaged, I use them daily in a flashlight, they work like a champ might I add.

4. There is nothing wrong with the spring in my Probation, every other 18650 I have seen works fine.

 

[mwa102464]

jkmtwo, it is a flat top but unlike other flat tops it does stick up 1mm this is why it makes connection where others dont, I just dont understand why yours doesnt work and all the rest of ours do work in the provari, this ISNT an argument as these Batts do work and work great we all know this, it's just yours that there seems to be a problem with and we are trying to get to the bottom of this thats all buddy,,, I think you will see when you get your callie's kustoms and maybe then you might note a difference in your current Batt to the Callie's possibly, not sure but there is surely something wrong why yours isnt working man.

you say the batt is taller, have you measured the two batts jkmtwo ? mine are 65mm, yours = ??

 

[jkmtwo]

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My spring

 

[jkmtwo]

They have a 1mm nipple, but the nipple is only 1mm raised off of the battery, the side or the lip on the battery is the same height