not sure exactly what you mean ?? sidewinder is far from cheap @300bucks
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not sure exactly what you mean ?? sidewinder is far from cheap @300bucks
No worries Saw, I would like to see a Sidewinder compared to a Gripper in size. It would get rid of the Big Hands factor, as that isn't really a unit of measure.
I had a link to madvapes to the Gripper, it's like $16 on sale right now, but the forum didn't like the link.
I know there are mods out there close to it like the gripper, however the gripper needs an extension to use tanks which defies the purpose of it being compact.
Remember that as weird as it is, my goal started with this idea to make a mod that would turn gear that ppl would already have into something compact (and safer from breaking) very easily and cheaply.
The idea came from the following requirements:
* Be compact (fit in an old analog box or something similar)
* Be easy to use, screw in your battery, screw in your tank, put in your pocket and go
* Use standards battery (any manual ego or 510) could even be vv batteries, lcd etc!
* Use a tank system
* Not complex! aka on this mod, other than sandwitch gluing wood, drilling and sanding, you only have to solder twice (4 if you don't get the pre-wired Batt connector).
The mod I am talking about (the base U connector) would cost:
$2.99 Prewired 510 Battery Connector, Sealed ($1.49 if you solder it yourself)
$1.49 510 Battery Connector, Sealed
$1.50 in hardwood (enough to make dozens of them)
So for about $6, you can turn old gear into a newly portable device. Even cheaper if like I did you get the atty connector from an old atty/clearo/carto etcc and the battery connector from a dead battery.
Remember that as weird as it is, my goal started with this idea to make a mod that would turn gear that ppl would already have into something compact (and safer from breaking) very easily and cheaply.
The idea came from the following requirements:
* Be compact (fit in an old analog box or something similar)
* Be easy to use, screw in your battery, screw in your tank, put in your pocket and go
* Use standards battery (any manual ego or 510) could even be vv batteries, lcd etc!
* Use a tank system
* Not complex! aka on this mod, other than sandwitch gluing wood, drilling and sanding, you only have to solder twice (4 if you don't get the pre-wired Batt connector).
The mod I am talking about (the base U connector) would cost:
$2.99 Prewired 510 Battery Connector, Sealed ($1.49 if you solder it yourself)
$1.49 510 Battery Connector, Sealed
$1.50 in hardwood (enough to make dozens of them)
So for about $6, you can turn old gear into a newly portable device. Even cheaper if like I did you get the atty connector from an old atty/clearo/carto etcc and the battery connector from a dead battery.
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ok thanks for clearing that up..i know bout the gripper but not my thing ,,besides its plastic and i tend to break stuff rather easy
i like the look of the sidewinder,but the price is just crazy imo..if somebody came out with something that looked like it and could take clearo,carto\tank ?? i'd be all over it !!
I hear you Coersum, but it would be good to have something reinforcing at the top end too so as not to strain the bottom. Could be a cap or band of some sort.
Not at all, thank you for your comments/advice, I always enjoy those. I just forgot to set the requirements I started with when I had this idea.
Very true and that's one thing I was thinking about also but I am unsure if it would be absolutely needed. When put together (ego and vivi nova for example) a tank and battery are only held by one 510 connection and the length of both gives it more torque (especially in a pant pocket lol). It's something in the back of my mind right now but not forgotten.
The wood base will be stronger than either connection so as long as the connectors are correctly set in it, it shouldn't be too bad.
Thanks
PS: I should mention that this is a personal preference, I just don't like the long stick type mods, just not my thing (that explains a lot about this thread haha).
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Heh, long is fine, just never sit down or pick up a kid. With kids around extra armor is a good thing. 
Still working on this project, the big problem is of course the fact that the battery button will be in random positions.
To solve that and still have it kind of plug and vape kind of thing, I am thinking of:
Make an adapter (very small) for the battery connection which will have a washer type connector at the bottom so that the battery adapter can be rotated then either held in place with a strong magnet as negative contact or with a flat flange nut.
It's hard to explain haha and my notepad isn't showing my latest idea for it.
If you have a suggestion, please do so... basically right now I am trying to fix the battery button position so that it can be adjusted wherever the user wants it to be. I think a cylindrical join between the bottom box mod and the battery has the best chance to achieve that. I just need to figure an easy, tool-free way to do it.
To solve that and still have it kind of plug and vape kind of thing, I am thinking of:
Make an adapter (very small) for the battery connection which will have a washer type connector at the bottom so that the battery adapter can be rotated then either held in place with a strong magnet as negative contact or with a flat flange nut.
It's hard to explain haha and my notepad isn't showing my latest idea for it.
If you have a suggestion, please do so... basically right now I am trying to fix the battery button position so that it can be adjusted wherever the user wants it to be. I think a cylindrical join between the bottom box mod and the battery has the best chance to achieve that. I just need to figure an easy, tool-free way to do it.
Heh, long is fine, just never sit down or pick up a kid. With kids around extra armor is a good thing.
Yes, for now I am working on the innards of it, I think, having a shell for it later will be a great addition, keeping both battery/tank/clearos and their connections safe from stress.
with a little modification couldn't you put a rca connection in place of the 510 connection or a adapter from the 510 to rca. as in screw the rca on the battery then plug in to the mod
I thought about something like that however, I am trying to make it as low profile as possible (20mm for the bottom base) and RCA connetors are pretty long, also they can come loose. Thank you though, it's still a possibility, maybe I haven't seen all type of RCA connectors.
For now, I am trying to make it with parts found in hardware stores (using menards's extensive website) for sizes. Here is an example of the main idea (just an idea, still a few part to define and adjustment to make):
I didn't put the pos/neg wires but they would be attached to the steel washer and that nail looking thing at the bottom (for positive) then ran on the side of the threaded pipe (or whatever that will be lol... you gotta love the design technical "vague Details")
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I know they [used to] make a quick connect cable end for TV cables. It was just a smooth, springy plug - a lot like an RCA jack, but fit the profile of the TV cable. Anyhow, I don't see why a similar idea wouldn't work. Then you can stick the battery in at whatever rotation you prefer. Of course, the problem then is that it's not as stable, and can spin freely with just a bit of torque.
Spring idea is sound too. Attach bottom of battery connector to a nut on a post with a spring. Push down and twist to rotate the battery 1/6 to 5/6 of a rotation from its natural resting place once attached. Wouldn't be a problem as you don't have to shove down on the battery when attaching it, just twist.
Final thought - more like the first. How about a clamp? Like the quick-release type on a spring form pan. You stick the battery in and then lock it in place. The latch could be flush-mounted with just a tiny piece for a finger/fingernail to get inside for changing battery. It would *sort of* be like the battery cover on a remote in that regard.
You'd also have to place the atty adapter far away enough that you could use different tanks - and some of those are wide. How about instead of perfectly parallel, you consider attaching the atty at a slight angle away from the battery - say maybe 10-15 degrees or so. It would allow a smaller footprint for the product itself (not including battery and atty), and give the assembled product a little more width. More width equates to more stability in your pocket IMO. Also, such an angle would reduce or eliminate the problem of almost all atty/tank deals being shorter than almost all eGo-style batteries because it would move your lips away from the base of the battery.
Alternatively, another solution for that is to have the atty side connected to a large bolt screwed into the base of the product. If the overall height of the "base" was, say, one inch (random measurement), by unscrewing this bolt to the desired length, the atty could be extended by close to an inch. Again, there are alternatives to the solution, like using some kind of locking rod in lieu of a big, hollow bolt.
There are a lot of potential neat solutions to these problems, and it's a nifty idea. You can use whatever battery you want and maintain a form factor you enjoy. Heck, by using a Twist battery, you can save yourself a lot of the cost and/or headache of buying or making your own VV box mod.
After looking at all the great graphics here, I think I really need to learn to do that stuff.
Spring idea is sound too. Attach bottom of battery connector to a nut on a post with a spring. Push down and twist to rotate the battery 1/6 to 5/6 of a rotation from its natural resting place once attached. Wouldn't be a problem as you don't have to shove down on the battery when attaching it, just twist.
Final thought - more like the first. How about a clamp? Like the quick-release type on a spring form pan. You stick the battery in and then lock it in place. The latch could be flush-mounted with just a tiny piece for a finger/fingernail to get inside for changing battery. It would *sort of* be like the battery cover on a remote in that regard.
You'd also have to place the atty adapter far away enough that you could use different tanks - and some of those are wide. How about instead of perfectly parallel, you consider attaching the atty at a slight angle away from the battery - say maybe 10-15 degrees or so. It would allow a smaller footprint for the product itself (not including battery and atty), and give the assembled product a little more width. More width equates to more stability in your pocket IMO. Also, such an angle would reduce or eliminate the problem of almost all atty/tank deals being shorter than almost all eGo-style batteries because it would move your lips away from the base of the battery.
Alternatively, another solution for that is to have the atty side connected to a large bolt screwed into the base of the product. If the overall height of the "base" was, say, one inch (random measurement), by unscrewing this bolt to the desired length, the atty could be extended by close to an inch. Again, there are alternatives to the solution, like using some kind of locking rod in lieu of a big, hollow bolt.
There are a lot of potential neat solutions to these problems, and it's a nifty idea. You can use whatever battery you want and maintain a form factor you enjoy. Heck, by using a Twist battery, you can save yourself a lot of the cost and/or headache of buying or making your own VV box mod.
After looking at all the great graphics here, I think I really need to learn to do that stuff.
You soooo get what I am trying to do, a simple versatile mod that would let you make all type of battery type/tank/atty combo of any size (like you said, add a vv battery and you got yourself a vv pocket size mod, want mini... get a 350mah battery and cartos and you get a 2" mod!! Awesome suggestions too, I do like the push spring idea as it's tool-free and quick way to go. I'm still trying different variation and will hopefully post updates soon.
Thank you!!
You could use a BNC connector, http://www.jameco.com/1/3/bnc-panel-mount-connectors push on and twist to lock, but will still spin, and they are compact.
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