Has vaping lost way?

[dripster]

That comment about baby beast shows you do push your options on others I know some people that use that tank and enjoy it very much that's the problem with blanket statements

I know it's a fact that a lot of people use that tank and enjoy it very much because it's fairly popular. But I also know that the popularity of an item is often mainly just a result from classical monkey see monkey do.

 

[dripster]

There you go making assumptions again I am a dual user and it has nothing to do with not being satisfied with my vape but has to do with lack of will power.I am addicted to smoking. And yes I have tried everything from cig-a-lites to dl low ohm high watt devices.Also I know vaping can work because I have gone up to 2 weeks without a cig on low watt mtl setups

That's my point, it has to do with a lack of will power to give DTL to quit the reasonable chance that it deserves, and in fact you already made that clear when you wrote:

That shows how wrong you are I do explain all types of vaping to noobs just because I vape mtl lung does not mean that I believe that's the only way or best way. I do recommend lower cost options with a range of coils and tell them to try different ones to get an idea of what works best for them.

Everyone who has even just a little bit of relevant experience with DTL already knows that lower cost DTL is pretty much usually a fail.

 

[dripster]

To clarify, I believe the blatant MTL zealotry that goes on is not only a result from monkey see monkey do, but also a result from how easy it really is for online salesmen to turn monkey see monkey do into one astronomical cash cow.

 

[Letitia]

This thread has lost its way and needs shut down.

 

[dripster]

Of course this thread needs shut down. Shut it down real quick before anyone can point out that cash cow might get hurt if too many people start to disagree that it feels very unnatural for them to not want to suffer as gravely as has been described in the first half of this post:

I find this topic somewhat humorous, as back when I started vaping, the Ego Twist (variable) had just come out and was called a "game changer" cuz "twist". I was told to buy some cotton-stuffed cartos, so I did. Somebody else said to buy clearos....I bought 2. I didn't even know what they were. (people who vaped before me had it even worse...they were stuffing spongey fish aquarium filters into cartos and dousing them with eliquid on non variable stick batteries).

At the time I lived 30 miles R/T from a town where I could buy cigs, so I went home on a Friday w/out any cigs, and was determined to vape stuff until Monday come heck or high water. I just picked out 2 ejuices from johnson creek or some name like that, I didn't even KNOW what I would be vaping or what it would taste like. (tasted HORRIBLE actually---absolutely horrible).

I had never met or known a "vaper" in real life, had never even seen a person vape, and there were no vaping stores yet where I lived, mid 2012, so I had zero access to any kind of real life vaping.

But I did it, and didn't buy cigs. The eliquid I bought tasted like sewing machine oil. The other one tasted like menthol barbeque. :shrugs: I didn't know anything better or different existed. I just assumed that this was what is was going to take to quit smoking. :shrugs:

My thought all along, both then and now, 6 years later is that if someobody wants to do something, whether it's lose weight, get in shape, or quit smoking.....if they really want to, they will.

The options available today are 1,000x more and better than what we had. (Sometimes I think having too many options is what is actually confusing for new vapers.) I owned my fair share of stuff, I think my positive ratings in the classifieds here is upwards of 125. LOL

Since almost all smokers are MTL, that is what I would probably recommend though. DL just seems very unnatural to me. I can't very well recommend stuff that is outside of my own experience...anyone I helped to start vaping would have to stumble upon DL in their vaping journey. The whole thing is one of trial and error, and personal preference anyway. THERE ARE NO SHORTCUTS.

MTL or DL, who even CARES???? If it feels good, do it.

And, again, I am not wholly invested in the idea that you have to have the perfect setup or eliquid to quit smoking. Most of us who started before I did, or around when I did, just limped by on what was available to us and somehow managed to quit smoking. Miracle. It was for me, since I'm really not the most disciplined person in the world. I just didn't want to smoke anymore, and I was very SURE about that.

Momentum? I compare 2012 to now and it has been like whizzing thru space at high speed. A lot has happened, techologically and otherwise.

 

[Eskie]

This thread needs to have folks use multi-quote instead of serial posting. Then it needs to be sent to the thread circular bin.

I think all the mods really are on summer vacation because there's more than one of these threads going on that need a stake through the heart.

 

[Asbestos4004]

This thread needs to have folks use multi-quote instead of serial posting. Then it needs to be sent to the thread circular bin.

I think all the mods really are on summer vacation because there's more than one of these threads going on that need a stake through the heart.

But then nobody will get rich!

Ridiculous.

 

[retired1]

This thread has lost its way and needs shut down.

Yep.

I think all the mods really are on summer vacation because there's more than one of these threads going on that need a stake through the heart.

Please report them, then. We're extremely busy with "life" and for me, my time has been extremely limited this summer.

And with that, we're done here. For some of you, reading this link is definitely in order.

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