Have all of your former Smokers become Engineers?

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Jimmie48

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Or did you all stay at a holiday inn express last night?

I am new here and posted one thread already, but have been scouring the site the last couple of days getting to know it better and I have come to one conclusion. Giving up smoking analogs has turned most of you into Electric Engineers and/or chemists. How many of you had the terms ohms or mah in your vocabulary before you started vaping and gave up smoking? It seems that you guys have lost the dull feelings in your brains from the analog smoke and have become geniuses with this stuff! Good for you....now we all know what we were wasting away with before we got off real cigs right! Look at all this brainpower in this group here...I am very impressed at all of the knowledge and information you guys have on this subject. Thanks so much for all of it as I cannot wait to dive into it myself and quit cigarettes forever.

I have a couple of questions for you genius engineers.

Where do you see the technology going? I mean the best PV's now are gigantic batteries with gigantic tanks pretty much that I see you guys showing off all the time and it is really cool equipment but as I know coming from the computer world, everything gets smaller with technology. Just look at how much data we can store on something the size of a stamp now. Do you guys see this battery tech really getting smaller and more portable without any loss in power?

I know the tanks are going to be tough to shrink with any kind of reliable way to hold a lot of juice but something will happen I am sure that will be a game changer some day down the line as well. Any thoughts on this?

Guys thanks so much for all the info. Enjoy your new found brain power and better health to everyone. If quitting makes me half as smart as you guys I am a lucky man!
 

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I just realized I totally missed making my post awesome. I am an engineer, and I actually stayed at a HI express last wekeend.

Next jump in battery tech could get interesting. Think of a tank and essentially a disc attached to the end. If there is a breakthrough we may see juice storage being the driving factor for size.
 

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Hello from Canada,

I'm a mechanical engineering student, and so I was familiar with most of the electricity and to some extent chemical terms that people were using on this forum before I joined up. Nico makes your brain work better IMO :p especially coming from vaporizer, since you're not inhaling all those chemicals that clog up your lungs and arteries and make you tired.

Vaping really is smoking brought from the Stone Ages into the Computer Age. Thank God for the genius that went into inventing these, it really is a service to mankind.

Where is this going in the next few years? I use a Joyetech eGo-C as was recommended as a dependable, cheap starter set, and I have no real qualms with it technology-wise. I understand many here use more modified alternatives which are much bigger, have higher puffs/e-juice capacity, but I have no real need for that as I used to smoke relatively little.

How much more technology can they put into these things! Other than a complete breakthrough that turns the e-cig worls upside down with a radically different vaping mechanism, such as a vaporisation by vibration or something...
 

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Where I see the technology going? I'm not certain, the technology is too controversial and young to tell. Big pharma could buy an ecig company, or big tobacco. Oh, wait they already have. See Lorillard » Investor Relations Highlights.

While some see this as a good thing, I do not. Given the shady history of tobacco companies, the only good coming from this I see would be the push to make them definitively legal for public consumption and regulated for consistency industry-wide. However I think the negatives outweigh the positives given this acquisition in the long run. I see Lorillard legalizing ecigs, then going to step 2, making ecigs more addictive, while putting their top scientists and chemist to use to develop chemicals that would be used in ecigs to enhance nicotine absorption rates. Pretty soon, given that timeline, ecigs will likely only be slightly safer than traditional cigarettes. I'm not even going into sin taxes that would inevitably be placed on ecigs should this happen.

Battery technology has been the slow kid in the class of technological evolution. There are countless claims of new battery technology that will make power companies go bankrupt, and cut ties with fossil fuel forever. Lies. There is hope, however. There are batteries being researched and developed at Renssealer Polytechnic Institute, that are printed on paper. See Rensselaer Research Review, Fall 2007: "Beyond Batteries: Storing Power in a Sheet of Paper" Page 1

There are many ways ecigs can go from here, let's just hope those who profit from them don't become corrupt, and keep their purpose as originally intended: As a safer alternative to smoking tobacco cigarettes.
 

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Another electrical engineer here, so ohms law, buck/boost transformers, IC circuitry and the whole shebang is second nature. Vaping is sometimes an extension of my love of gadgets. It’s no surprise that the people on the board are tech heavy.

I can’t wait for the next breakthrough in tech. I see variable wattage replacing variable voltage in the very near future as the next hyped up thing. There are already some units out, but once it goes main stream and cheap then it makes sense to me that it will be the system that everybody wants.

Battery tech while evolving will take a while before it becomes cost effective and filters down to the PV market.
 

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I'm almost positive the next break through will have vv ability, a thought based button, and be as large as the large mods out there. The small screen will download updated post activity from ECF there bye eliminating the need for a desktop computer. Saving about 20lbs and a lot of electricity! Look for the fist version of this to be a smart phone with a 510 connection followed soon after by the tiny screen on the actual mod that can do it all!

In all honesty I agree fully that they will eventually go to variable wattage with smart type analysis of the cartomizers.
 
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I'm almost positive the next break through will have vv ability, a thought based button, and be as large as the large mods out there. The small screen will download updated post activity from ECF there bye eliminating the need for a desktop computer. Saving about 20lbs and a lot of electricity! Look for the fist version of this to be a smart phone with a 510 connection followed soon after by the tiny screen on the actual mod that can do it all!

Will it be solar powered and have a port for your holographic implants?
 

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Computer geek who minored in electronics, so nothing new as far as the electrical part. I think we will end up with new battery tech coming out of the auto industry, maybe something like the Lithium-Air battery or some new materials that make smaller batteries last longer. Probably new coils and atties that last longer. Maybe better ways to vaporize liquids. The sky is the limit if the government doesn't kill innovation.
 

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I knew nothing when I started. The knowledge I have now is the result of 2 years of constant research, experimenting, learning, studying, watching, reading, and testing the art of vaping. Two years ago I never, ever imagined myself knowing the things I know and being able to mix my own juice. If there was a final exam.. I'd ace it and get the extra credit essay questions right! I've enjoyed every (well.. almost every) minute of it :D
 

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I see big things on the horizon if it catches on moderately and money is to be made. I believe both these to be true. I used to own a top of the line PC back in 1990, cost around 5,000 dollars, a random hobo would rather piss on it these days because its hardly worth the scrap. However, if many more smokers turned to the alternative and the money flowed towards development... we could see giant steps forward. This is from a not mechanical engineer schlub tho =P
 

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Hey I used to have a flashlight that got its energy by shaking it... No battery.
Can you guys make an ecig/pv work like that? LOL
Sounds like a fun project! I think I'll make one. I can imagine it now, the added benefit of exercise while vaping. The shakeweight is a thing of the past, introducing: the VAPEWEIGHT!
 

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I see more variable wattage in the near term. Battery tech is the big stumbling block for a while, but look how exotic consumer grade lithium batteries were considered just 10 years ago. People were still flying RC aircraft with NimHs.

I predict that juice, as we know it will become an anachronism once large commercial interests begin to invade the market in earnest. At the behest of the BT lobby, small juice makers will be taxed and regulated into oblivion, with only highly capitalized labs being capable of meeting the standards set by BT and the regulatory agencies they own. As they exist now, e-cigs pose a tremendous threat to the profits of BT and they'll do whatever they can to neutralize that threat and make their e-cigs as profitable to them as their analogs. If that means requiring that only disposable lookalikes, with tamperproof 5mg cartridges, be sold only in tobacco shops and only in regular and menthol, BT will push for it.

Like the above poster, I fear BT's involvement. They aren't going to lift a finger to liberalize laws that don't have a direct impact on the exact configuration of e-cig they sell, or what they come up with in their labs. The types of e-cigs that Philip Morris has been working on, with a tamperproof chemical laden cartridge is what we can expect BT to develop and I have no doubt that they will advocate, or at least remain silent about, severe restrictions on anything that strays from that model.

You can be sure that whatever BT develops will be instantly patented, restricted, expensive, disposable and granted special status by the regulatory agencies that they lobby. Competing products and systems will be left to fend for themselves in a regulatory climate influenced by the wishes of BT to control the market to the greatest extent possible.

I know all that sounds pessimistic. But one man's pessimism is another man's reality check. I watched what they did to RYO tobacco in their attempt to protect their cash cow of cigarettes. Make no mistake, BT did it, not the government. I have no doubt that they're prepared to do the same thing regarding e-cigs.
 

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Chem E, Comp Sci and Chemistry here... I'd approach it from the composition of the juice itself. Why not look for a juice base that has a lower vaping point, there by reducing the power requirement. I saw something (can't remember where...) that PG/VG compositions have a boiling point around 370f with atty coils running around 180f-185f. If you could lower the BP of the juice, you would most likely be able to lower the temp requirement for the coils. Lower temp requirement would require less energy, which in turn would extend the usable range of existing batteries. (just a theory, not putting a lot into facts). Maybe even a juice that sublimated at room temp so you wouldn't need batteries at all...

Now I'm picturing tablets inserted in a wrist watch (or a key fob), mechanical trap door valve and vape away... The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of not needing batteries at all.
 
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I'm thinking in the very distant future as nanotechnology reaches its much hyped golden age, we could see no juices at all. Just simply a charged cartridge that could produce a given flavor and nic hit simply by exciting them with an electrical charge.
I can think of a few things that could vaporize at room temp but your getting in to refrigerants which must be kept under pressure to remain in liquid form and you wouldn't want in your body. Besides the E.P.A. would jump in and say that it was a hazard to the ozone and ban it. Or that the Earth would flood and people could drown from all the water vapor.
 
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