I think it's important to bear in mind that we, as ECF'ers, may not reflect the actual or potential e-cig-using population. I suspect a B&M seller is probably smarter to keep a fairly limited, somewhat vanilla, product line for the many smokers who are motivated enough to seek out e-cigs but not avid enough to spend a lot of time on an online forum or otherwise seeking out the perfect product. Looking at my own PV right now, I see a battery box and batteries bought from one vendor, an adapter from another, a tank from a third, a cartomizer from a fourth, a drip tip from a fifth, and DIY liquid made from the products of at least three more vendors. The many who are used to "Give me two packs or Marlboro Lights" may prefer the simplicity of a basic product lineup (and might well find the Provari too heavy). That lineup may work fine for them, even if it doesn't do much for me, you, or most who hang out at ECF.
Have to vent about my local E cig store
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Hello Jason
Bullette the Cowdog here.
Livin the life in Florida also. I get down to Miami on occasion & as there are no real vape shops here on the Treasure Coast (mall kiosk doesn't count) I'd surely like to visit your favorite vape shop. Are you able to name it in this post? I'd love to go there.
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I guess I'm pretty lucky that the local B&M here in Orlando has some pretty decent folks working at it. The owner is pretty knowledgeable on his stuff. Prices are fair. It's a B&M, I expect to pay a little more than online, but I don't have to wait, so I'm fine with that. Juices are good, and actually priced about the same as elsewhere online. I've gone in when it's busy and watched some of the other employees selling to new customers. No hype. Just proper knowledge about how to use the PV they are interested in. It's mostly Joye stuff, but I'm fine with that.
Sure- the shop in Miami is Vapor Shark. There is also one in Davie (Broward County) called The Vapin' Place.
You can look up vendors at: Vapor Search. Both of these vendors are listed there and many others as well.
One difference about Vapor Shark is they also have a small lounge area where you could go and hang out, chat and vape.
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I have visited and bought from two B&M stores in the Dallas area. Both of them have had knowledgable employees who were really helpful and friendly. Yes, their prices are higher than the online stores, but that is to be expected.
My local store has twice told me they invented the Stardust and all the others are copies off of theirs. I also wonder about their methods of sharing their drip atomizers. They cleaned their dripping atomizers by blowing into them and I'm sure it's one shared by many. Seems an easy way to spread tuberculosis or something else. I would think each atomizer would need to be soaked in alcohol and not blown dry. Maybe lots of ecig stores do it this way.
But I won't mention names or give them any trouble over it, the industry is gone after too much as it is.
But I won't mention names or give them any trouble over it, the industry is gone after too much as it is.
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Great!
I'm always looking for a good cup of coffee & a great place to vape.
Thanks for the info
Rule number one is you never badmouth other peoples products. If you can't do business without doing that you are too weak to succeed.
You bet! If you check them out, let me know what you think.
I'm not upset they weren't drooling over my provari - I just get tired of them dissing it when I go in there when they have no knowledge of it. It just makes them look stupid. I own a computer store and if someone comes in with something I don't know anything about I'm not going to start dissing it...if I don't care for it I'm not going to talk smack to them.
Just common courtesy IMO.
I run into it with the shop just a few blocks away from me. I go in to buy liquids but nothing else. Her stuff is way overpriced compared to the other store about 20 miles away that is near my work and school, so when I need anything other than liquids I go to him. She flat out lied to my face the other day, so I make sure I go in when the owner isn't there. She sells mostly joyetech and totally wicked, but I think they use the batteries themselves then pass off used batteries as brand new, a couple of neighbors of mine just bought batteries and clearos and a charger, and the batteries for ego, the inner part that connects to the charger, it turns a tan color when used, all nice and shinny when unused, and theirs were that tan color. She is selling some ego twists she says are 1000 mah, but they are the same size as my 650 mah twist, at $35.
I'm about to stop going in for liquids too, they used a bottle for a guy to test out his clearo and taste the liquid, he didn't want the bottle, they tried to sell that bottle to the next unsuspecting customer which was me, I told them I had stopped vaping that flavor since it was what I normally get. The other shop has a wider selection of flavors, and proved to me that his liquids don't come from china as the shop a few blocks away told me they did. I understand wantng to make a profit and all but lying to the customers isn't the way to go about it.
I'm about to stop going in for liquids too, they used a bottle for a guy to test out his clearo and taste the liquid, he didn't want the bottle, they tried to sell that bottle to the next unsuspecting customer which was me, I told them I had stopped vaping that flavor since it was what I normally get. The other shop has a wider selection of flavors, and proved to me that his liquids don't come from china as the shop a few blocks away told me they did. I understand wantng to make a profit and all but lying to the customers isn't the way to go about it.
Don't worry about it man. Rat has a personal vendetta against anyone who talks good about Provari's.
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When you run into a retail establishment that has the attitude, "Whatever we sell is better than whatever you already own", it's a signal to politely turn around and find somewhere else to do business. Competition is one thing, but no one profits from negative attitudes about the other guy. Tell me why yours is good and sell me on the features for the price, but don't inform me that I made a bad decision prior to coming into your shop. If you do, I will take that as I would if you called me a fool.
Ecigs are a budding business and product knowledge can be scarce, especially among new employees. A good businessman will put together a new hire training course, implement it, and require the employees to make passing grades before they come in contact with the public. You can train a person in a day or two, give them some links to competitive products so that they know something about the major competition, and make them look marginally competent rather quickly. A good list of things not to say or do isn't a bad idea, either.
Ecigs are a budding business and product knowledge can be scarce, especially among new employees. A good businessman will put together a new hire training course, implement it, and require the employees to make passing grades before they come in contact with the public. You can train a person in a day or two, give them some links to competitive products so that they know something about the major competition, and make them look marginally competent rather quickly. A good list of things not to say or do isn't a bad idea, either.
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