Headache and Nausea...Help!

[Caridwen]

I have another question for all of you that are responding. If it ends up that I am sensitive to PG (after testing 100%VG and being ok). What type of atomizer should I use? I have read that 100% VG juice is pretty thick and shouldnt be used with some atomizers..?? I currently have a Kanger Protank 2, Kanger mini protank 2 and a mini vivi nova (I bought the extra metal barrel to switch out the plastic one it comes with).

Less than 10% of people have an allergy to PG/VG. It's in cigarettes- so is VG for that matter.

If you find it irritating, you could use all VG but it's thick, I'd cut it down with distilled water. Some use PGA. I personally can't vape high VG liquids - I get a heavy feeling in my chest. But others love it.

I'd give it time, drink lots of water. If it continues, you can try to narrow down the issue. I got headaches too when I began. They did go away. I figured it was cigarette withdraws. I didn't quit smoking immediatly- probably smoked and vaped first 3 weeks to a month.

 

[Bramble]

Sounds like typical Nicotine OD, instant headache, sick gaggy feeling in the throat, feels like you want to loose your lunch.... sweating shakey.. good way to recreate that obnoxious feeling is to lick a few good sized drops of juice and swallow it... you will be miserable once again... not advised tho!!

If you get juice on your skin, it can be absorbed that way too... this is something I've learned the hard way in my first 2 weeks of vaping. Make sure if you are handling the juice that you wash it off your skin completely or you will be getting more nicotine than you realize.

 

[yzer]

When I started vaping, I had severe dizziness and nausea. I talked to my Dr. and he thought it might be a problem with my inner ears (I already have a moderate to severe hearing loss), and recommended that I quit the nicotine altogether. I did, and the problem is no longer bothersome. Nicotine is a poison to the nerves in the inner ear, and some people are more susceptible than others.

However, I still have a bit of 6mg set aside to drip in emotional crises.

After seeing your handle the light bulb went off in my head. My Dad was a long time smoker: a couple of pack's of Lucky Strikes a day. He had Meniere's syndrome and went through a lot of treatment for it back in the 1960's including ice water irrigation of the ear. After several years of treatment he still had recurrent bouts of Meniere's. It was only after he quit smoking that it went away for good.

 

[Bunnykiller]

I have another question for all of you that are responding. If it ends up that I am sensitive to PG (after testing 100%VG and being ok). What type of atomizer should I use? I have read that 100% VG juice is pretty thick and shouldnt be used with some atomizers..?? I currently have a Kanger Protank 2, Kanger mini protank 2 and a mini vivi nova (I bought the extra metal barrel to switch out the plastic one it comes with).

if you ordered from Virgin Vapors... it will be alot thinner than "normal" 100% VG

 

[Bunnykiller]

But I got the headache/nausea with the very 1st vape I took- plus I had cigs that morning before I started vaping. So I really dont think it is withdraw.

If it was withdrawl symptoms, then everyone who smoked would have them after sleeping more than 8 hours

 

[mo2181]

if you ordered from Virgin Vapors... it will be alot thinner than "normal" 100% VG

Why is that? Is that good or bad?

 

[patkin]

As Cardiwen said, both PG and VG are in smokes so unless you've had the same reaction to smoking way, way, too much, I would eliminate those as the problem. You wouldn't know it with the always repeated "PG sensitivity" info but the key word is "sensitivity"... allergy to PG, however, is very rare and includes all the reactions one usually thinks of with an allergy. "Sensitivity" usually falls more in the "irritation" category... throat/membranes/skin. Trying to figure out what is going on with any rare reactions to vaping as in your case is like trying to spit into the wind precisely because its so uncommon so I'm not even going to try. I think its something you're going to have to figure out by a process of elimination or trial.

 

[yzer]

If it was withdrawl symptoms, then everyone who smoked would have them after sleeping more than 8 hours

I did. That's why that first smoke in the morning was so good.

 

[DaveP]

PG allergies do exist. Since most of the PG we vape is absorbed through mucous membranes and then goes through the normal process of elimination ... liver, kidneys, etc.

It would seem from the article below that PG allergy is a contact allergy as well as an internal condition as it is eliminated. Who knows what happens when you vape it. People who are allergic to PG generally report skin reactions. It's in toothpaste, creams, and foods. It's also and additive in your carbonated soft drinks, too.

I didn't see any symptoms in the article below that resembled the ones the original poster experienced.

eCigs > Glycol Allergy

 

[Mrs C]

Why is that? Is that good or bad?

They cut/thin it with a small amount of either water or pga to make it wick better. That info should be available on their site or ingredients lists. Perfectly acceptable practice .

 

[JustB'nMe]

I had a similar experience my first time vaping. For me, it turned out that 12 mg nic is too much AND I have a pg allergy. I switched to vendors that have pg-free liquids and I don't purchase anything higher than 6-8 mg nic. I also ensure I stay hydrated and get a daily intake of potassium (which is lost due to smoking). All is well these days and I haven't had an analog in 6 months. My suggestion is a lower nic level, sticking with one of your vg liquids for about four days and spacing out your hits. If your symptoms lessen or go away THEN try one of your pg/vg mixes. If the symptoms return then it's quite possible you may be sensitive to pg. It really is trial and error and finding the e-liquid ratios that are tolerable can vary from person to person. Hopefully this helps and you can transition away from analogs altogether. Good luck!

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[mo2181]

I had a similar experience my first time vaping. For me, it turned out that 12 mg nic is too much AND I have a pg allergy. I switched to vendors that have pg-free liquids and I don't purchase anything higher than 6-8 mg nic. I also ensure I stay hydrated and get a daily intake of potassium (which is lost due to smoking). All is well these days and I haven't had an analog in 6 months. My suggestion is a lower nic level, sticking with one of your vg liquids for about four days and spacing out your hits. If your symptoms lessen or go away THEN try one of your pg/vg mixes. If the symptoms return then it's quite possible you may be sensitive to pg. It really is trial and error and finding the e-liquid ratios that are tolerable can vary from person to person. Hopefully this helps and you can transition away from analogs altogether. Good luck!

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Thanks so much! Glad I'm not the only one that experienced this. I'm hoping the nic level was to high or it was the pg. I so want this to work and quit cigs :/

 

[T0rtitude]

Same thing happened to me the first time I ever tried an ecig. In my case it was too much nic. My husband brought home an 18mg Njoy. I tried to use it like I would an analog and puff non stop for several minutes. Bad idea. 12mg was more tolerable for me starting out.

 

[gato]

Yeah sounds like a mix of some PG reaction with a switching effect. Until you get used to the new way your body absorbs nic you might feel a little awkward. Sorry your not feeling well, hope you feel better. Dont give up!

 

[Bunnykiller]

Why is that? Is that good or bad?

if you are using a coil system like a Protank or similar you may run into some gurgling issues. I think Virgin uses alcohol in thier mix, makes it thinner than "normal" 100% VG. All of the 100% VG I have bought is as thick as or nearly as thick as honey ( Well except for VV's stuff).

 

[Buggainok]

You've already got a lot of good advice. I just want to send sympathy and encouragement. Don't give up. This can work for you!

 

[Phenomenon]

Yea... sorry that you feel bad. But you are on the right track. I'm sure it will work out with the more juices you try. Good luck!

 

[Olddawg]

Lot's of good suggestions in this thread and good to hear you may have found the issue.

I'm only 2 weeks with this and found I also get a headache and attempting to work this out.

I am going to try cutting some juice down (18mg right now) and see where that leads.
I've also stopped exhaling through my nose and taking long hard draws, this seems to help.

Also tried the 'no-lung' draw and found I got the headache faster.. (also seemed quite strange to me)..

I think I was looking for that cloud of vapor to satisfy my mind.
Seems I'm geeting what my body requires by backing off a bit..

I've also found my 'pen-style' has a purpose now!
When I feel I need to smoke that anologe, I've been reaching for that instead.
Nice change out in flavor, diiferent hit..
Just have to remember; no matches, flicking doesn't help and don't throw it out the window when done.. LOL!!

Just my experience so far..

Again, Happy to see you have figured out the issue and it's working for you!

 

[FourWinds]

I'd bet money on this being too much nicotine; it sounds just like the symptoms from chain smoking a pack to me. It's not a nice feeling at all; I've done it.

A simple test would be to get the same flavour with 0% nic, and to switch to that if you feel any headache or nausea in the future. I bet the symptoms would go away, and you would then go to having withdrawal symptoms. In time you'll find an appropriate % of nic to fit with your nicotine dependence and the time you spend vaping. Then you can decide if you want to start reducing the nic or not.

 

[~Sue~Feb2012]

Hi mo

Lots of advice and good links to read have been given already.

Some flavors can cause nausea in addition to too much nic or smoking withdrawal symptoms, or being pregnant, some medications, not drinking enough water or drinking too much water, lots of things. The list is almost endless.

I'll mention that you may want to order nicotine base such as 18 mg (or higher if you want to try higher, then dilute as necessary with either VG or PG.) I'm not saying you should start DIY ing your own e-liquids, but it might be the only way to experiment if you are sensitive to PG or VG and/or any types of flavors.

ALWAYS shake juice, whether you make your own e-liquids or buy it from forum suppliers. Nicotine has been known to separate. Shake well and often

Good luck, hope you are feeling better