Headache, dizziness, sleepiness

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Sugar_and_Spice

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I cannot disagree, I'm still in ny trial stages I guess, I vape alot, I almost don't let it down whenever I'm not in the office or asleep, so that's maybe 4 - 5 mls a day, if I do juice out of the bottle, then economically I'm very close to analogs cost, with the added disadv. Of having to buy stock upfront., I'm researching on flavors and have used some PA ry4 in a mix and it tasted good,..you get my point?


Before you end up making yourself sick, or decide to go back to smoking analogs, you should take the time to read all the info in the new members stickies at the top of the new members pages. It explains a lot. Ejuice does not costs as much as traditional cigarettes. The ecig does not compare to cigarettes in terms on the nic absorbed into your body, therefore, most vapers do vape more than they smoked. It is not that you are getting way too much nic or more than what a cig gives you and does not equal one tank for a pack of cigarettes. (used only as an example to make a point).
We absorb nic from the ejuice through the mouth, nose and throat and very little actually gets to the lungs. with a cigarette the nic goes directly into the lungs and straight into the blood system.
Both systems deliver nicotine, but do not equal each other in terms of amt. It takes more vaping to get the same amt of nic levels in your body as you would with cigarettes.

so do yourself a favor and read and ask questions. And don't assume that ecigs are cigarettes because they are not. They are a nicotine delivery device used to keep the cravings for cigarettes away.

By diluting your ejuice for the purpose of making it last and not satisfying your nic cravings, you will pick up a cigarette to compensate for those cravings. And then you may think that ecigs do not work, when in fact it will be user error.
 
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I cannot disagree, I'm still in ny trial stages I guess, I vape alot, I almost don't let it down whenever I'm not in the office or asleep, so that's maybe 4 - 5 mls a day, if I do juice out of the bottle, then economically I'm very close to analogs cost, with the added disadv. Of having to buy stock upfront., I'm researching on flavors and have used some PA ry4 in a mix and it tasted good,..you get my point?

You definitely want to go DIY, in that case.

Some vendors, such as Mom & Pop's and Want2Vape, sell DIY flavors of their juices. Nicoticket also has some really good single DIY flavors.

I suggest checking out TFA (The Flavor Apprentice) Black Honey Tobacco. I mix it at 5%, and it is a full rich flavor.

If you like Halo Tribeca, there is a great clone recipe that is almost identical to the original - http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-liquid-recipes/476464-tribeca-clone-26-a.html#post11694502
 

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You definitely want to go DIY, in that case.

Some vendors, such as Mom & Pop's and Want2Vape, sell DIY flavors of their juices. Nicoticket also has some really good single DIY flavors.

I suggest checking out TFA (The Flavor Apprentice) Black Honey Tobacco. I mix it at 5%, and it is a full rich flavor.

If you like Halo Tribeca, there is a great clone recipe that is almost identical to the original - http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-liquid-recipes/476464-tribeca-clone-26-a.html#post11694502

Thank you , now I need a recommendation on where to buy DIY supplies, VG, PG and 100 PG nicotine, 100 % VG Nicotine, also if someone can recommend a list of flavors I need to buy to start with, I have TFA RY4 double and Sian RY4, Red, black honey, and tobaco. I cannot vape alcohol for religious reasons so it would be really helpful to mind that in the recommendations
 

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Thank you , now I need a recommendation on where to buy DIY supplies, VG, PG and 100 PG nicotine, 100 % VG Nicotine, also if someone can recommend a list of flavors I need to buy to start with, I have TFA RY4 double and Sian RY4, Red, black honey, and tobaco. I cannot vape alcohol for religious reasons so it would be really helpful to mind that in the recommendations

Ecigexpress.com Vapingstation. Onestopdiyshop.com
But unless you are buying vg only flavors, then the majority of the flavor has alcohol to get the flavors into liquid form. But for terms of clarity, the alcohol evaporates after mixing if you allow the juices to age a little. Therefore all alcohol is then gone.
Also check out the DIY section on the ecf here
DIY E-Liquid



Good luck
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Yes, same happened to me at the 2-3 month mark. I was a very heavy chain smoker and started at 24mg. I called it the "headless chicken syndrome". I found that not only nicotine but caffeine and sugary drinks were winding me up. I read something about how the liver starts processing caffeine and sugar after it stops processing all of the chemicals in cigarette smoke. Sounded logical to me.

So many symptoms can be attributed to either high nic OR withdrawal that it's hard to determine just what to do.

Anyway, dropping nic levels, going to more decaf, and eating better seemed to help me. My "headless chicken syndrome" quieted down after few more weeks.
 

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Yes kalex, but I cut my juice down to almost 2.4, or that's what I thought, because I wasnt shaking my bottles, and tgat means I might gave been pouring much more concentrated liquid than the declared 24 mg, which messes up all the math..

I cannot disagree, I'm still in ny trial stages I guess, I vape alot, I almost don't let it down whenever I'm not in the office or asleep, so that's maybe 4 - 5 mls a day, if I do juice out of the bottle, then economically I'm very close to analogs cost, with the added disadv. Of having to buy stock upfront., I'm researching on flavors and have used some PA ry4 in a mix and it tasted good,..you get my point?


Looks like you're getting the answers you need. It's not the Halo, it's your mixing. If Halo juice didn't do this to you the first order, but did the second, what's different about the orders? You're changing the Halo formula by DIY, using higher nic and not shaking your bottles at all which isn't allowing the nic and juices to mix.

Like others said the reactions could be due to too much VG that you have mixed up. Without knowing how much VG Halo uses, you are basically playing Russian roulette w/PG and VG and it will take a lot of playing around to figure out the best mix for you.

And you said you vape a lot. I realize you said you need to cut down nic cuz it was making you kind of sick, but it's also because it sounds like you're a chain vapor. So it's good to cut down or keep nic higher and vape less.

Good luck and it sounds like DIY maybe a great next step.

EDIT- I also know I had some of these symptoms you described at the beginning because I dropped nic too fast. Not sure how much you smoked analogs prior to vaping, but these symptoms can also be withdraw from nic. Usually if I have too much nic, I get shaky and nauseated. I get tired and headaches when I don't get enough nic. Just a thought...
 
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Thank you , now I need a recommendation on where to buy DIY supplies, VG, PG and 100 PG nicotine, 100 % VG Nicotine, also if someone can recommend a list of flavors I need to buy to start with, I have TFA RY4 double and Sian RY4, Red, black honey, and tobaco. I cannot vape alcohol for religious reasons so it would be really helpful to mind that in the recommendations

The best one-stop place would be Wizard Labs. They run out of nicotine regularly, but that is because their product is in such high demand. They have a great notification system, so just click on "Notify me" under the product you want, and you will get an email when it is back in stock.

Other places would include RTS Vapes, ECigExpress, OneStopDIYShop, MyFreedomSmokes, Vaping Zone, HighDesertVapes, or DIYFlavorShack.

Flavors are all about personal preference, so I would say take a good look through the DIY, recipes, and Flavor Reviews sections here on ECF.
DIY - DIY E-Liquid
Recipes - E-Liquid Recipes
Flavor reviews - Flavor Reviews

FYI - Propylene glycol and vegetable glycerin are both forms of alcohol.
 

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Thank you all, I definitely need to go back and read alot,.
Btw, I went back and mixed some halo longhorn 12mg with tpa ry4 double to avoid the excessive vg , and I'm feeling alot better, I think It was the vg, for some reason I had a strong perception that vg is the way to go over pg , well now I know...

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Before you start buying a pile of DIY liquids and equipment I would suggest you get a grip on the PG/VG question and any concerns about your nic level. You could do that for only 10 bucks at a place like Mt. Baker Vapor by purchasing one 15 ml bottle of unflavored 100 PG and one 15 ml bottle of unflavored 100 VG (what MBV calls "high VG") at your nic level of choice. Unflavored is a choice in the drop down list of flavors to select. We're still not sure if the problem is PG or VG or if you are having a reaction to a flavoring component as well. Purchasing large quantities of DIY PG, VG or nic base in either would be... probably an expensive adventure until you get some basics sorted out.

One step at a time.
 
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Oops!!, just ordered 65 bucks worth of stuff from wizard labs that's fine with me though for the sake of quitting analogs.
Actually upon my trials since my last posting, it seems that my comfort zone is somewhere around 50/50 or a little towards the pg side, pg does give an extremely dry mouth compared to vg, but big improvement on the dizziness issue, still getting a little light headed but hoping for more improvement .
I think I gave a problem with my equipment too, I bought ego-t from ebay, a cheap replica , and I think it's not helping giving the poor quality, same for the mech mod , actually I put it aside as I'm concerned about battery safety and currently shopping for a decent 18650 battery and a fuse.

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could be a number of things. Not drinking enough water when vaping can cause the headaches, to much nic can be the cause of dizziness and sleepiness. Adverse reaction to VG or PG, or even the flavor extracts in the vape.

Try going the other way and up your pg content instead of the vg to see if you are sensitive to vg, some are and can't tolerate it. Everyone is different.
 
I have had that happen alot when I started Vaping but as time went on the Juice I was using I found out had much every thing to do with it right now I smoke Timless Vapor Nicquid and big hearts by hot vapes all high quality and 2 of them are part if the American Eliquid Manufacturer Standard Association or aemsa check out there vendors all high quality I have found and maybe lower your nic strength!
Hope that helps! And drink tons of water!
 
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You definitely want to go DIY, in that case.

Some vendors, such as Mom & Pop's and Want2Vape, sell DIY flavors of their juices. NUDE NICOTINE also has some really good single DIY flavors.

I suggest checking out TFA (The Flavor Apprentice) Black Honey Tobacco. I mix it at 5%, and it is a full rich flavor.

If you like Halo Tribeca, there is a great clone recipe that is almost identical to the original - http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-liquid-recipes/476464-tribeca-clone-26-a.html#post11694502

I meant to say Nude Nicotine, not Nicoticket. Sorry about that.
 
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