Health semi-automatic e-cigar

[accordeur]

Just received from dealextreme. Comes with 8 cartridges for only 26$. You have to push the button to activate the atomizer, but it works wether you suck hard or not. Plenty of smoke. The cartridges don't taste as good as the e-liquid but I have plenty of liquid so not a problem. The batteries are ICR10430, I read that the batteries from e-cig are the ICR10440 which are supposed to be better. I will see how long these last and might order from e-cig.

No customs fees this time. Shipping from Hong Kong was less than a week to get here in Canada. My NJOY, shipped on the 6th of March, still has not arrived. But I had it ship by regular land mail (9$) and it might be stuck at customs due to it's higher value.

 

[LVD]

The batteries are ICR10430, I read that the batteries from e-cig are the ICR10440 which are supposed to be better.

10430 and 10440 only diifer by 1mm and are interchangable in electronic cigars and most chargers.

10430 = 10mm diameter and 43mm length
10440 = 10mm diameter and 44mm length

It is the capacity of the battery wich is important and this is expressed in mAh. The E-cig is 350 mAh. I do not know what the batteries of Heavengifts are (let us know please). Dealextreme does sell Ultrafire 10440 batteries of 500mAh but those are larglely overrated and are in fact only about 400mAh (still pretty good).

 

[accordeur]

Battery is 360 mAh.

 

[LVD]

So about the same (slightly better) as the E-cig

 

[mindtrick]

As I'm stuck waiting around for my new NJOY atomizer to arrive, I couldn't help but pick up one of these on Dealextreme ($26 shipped). I need something to fall back on if my NJOY isn't working properly - otherwise I'm back to Marlboro - which I want to use e-smoking to get away from. From what I'm hearing review-wise on these, they seem like the best bang for the buck option. Many recommended it as a first time option, or a very reliable back-up. I'll probably alternate between the two in honesty.

The only thing that really confuses me is that if people are praising many of these companies' cigar models for the best smoke, why do the companies sell the smaller products for more money? I'm concerned about quality of the smoking experience, not how well it'll fit in my pocket.

Oh well...I suppose less is more based on perspective. I'll be sure to post up a review when this bad boy rolls in.

Rich

 

[TropicalBob]

Rich, I own both a fully automatic Health e-cigar from DealExteme and the Health mini-cig duo from DealExtreme. The cigar has been in use more than three months and I use it non-stop. It travels with me on a lanyard around my neck. The cig, on the other hand, had a battery die with 12 hours of arrival. An atomizer died not long ago taking a bath in warm running water. And the remaining unit is next to worthless. No vapor to speak up. Fish-face sucking to get anything. Awful quality.

I have no idea why these two same-brand products are so different, but they are. The e-cigar remains the best buy in all of e-smoking. I could buy .. what? -- four for the price of a Ruyan. No way is the Ruyan four times better.

Course, I'm still waiting for the ultimate price war and quality competition that will occur if these things aren't banned first as nicotine-delivery devices. When the Next Generation comes along, I might .. might .. trade in my Health E-Cigar.

 

[mixalisc]

Hello everyone, I finally smoked all the cartridges that came with my super mini cig and its time to move on for a better e-smoking experience I actually ordered a Janty and cancelled it the last minute as I've seen somewhere a review about the cigar. It seems to have longer battery life, more vapour and long lasting cartridges and since my super mini cig is exactly the opposite I was quite impressed with the e-cigar so I made a small research about it. I found an ebay store that sells the RUYAN Titanium e-cigar kit + 25 refills for 42 GBP (83 USD) from China. The price is with the express shipping cost. Sooo anyone knows why this is such a good deal ? Im one of those guys that believes that if something is too good to be true, it probably is ! I checked the ruyanchina website and their cigars are way more expensive even without the shipping cost and without the extra 25 refills !!

Thank you,
Michael C.

 

[Wwishes]

I've seen that Ruyan? one too - WOW - looks extremely nice! Please update if you buy.

I've got a question - the e cigars appear to take almost normal batteries - are they AA or AAA size - or nothing like?
Are they at all interchangeable with 'normal' rechargeable batteries which are available at various qualities/capacities in UK everywhere - I know that rechargeables are not so readily available in US but here in UK almost everyone uses.

I'm new to e smoking - have just bought my 1st pen one - sedansa type - I foresee buying more unless this helps me kick the habit totally (been trying for 4 months) in the next month. Got 1 dud battery (being replaced) & other battery I'm not too impressed with. Impressed by amount of smoke however. Is there a multiple battery charger out on the market yet - UK voltage??

If any of the ecigars take 'normal' rechargeables surely this is the way to go??? Manufacturers - please note!

 

[katink]

I wouldn't know of any e-cigar taking 'normal' batteries Wwishes. It's always Li-ion. 3.6 or 3.7 volt (the 'normal' ones are 1.5v, thus not usable unless you go linking them). The mAh is less important as to what you can use: just the lower the mAh, the shorter it will take before it needs recharging again (I guess there might be some upper-border not to cross; but I read about 800 mAh being used without trouble; and I use 500 mAh myself; while devices are often delivered with 360 mAh).
I have these: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.974 ($4.32 per 2, shipping included) and I have a charger that seems to be safe and one of the best (indeed no complaints at all, and quick charging): http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.6166 ($17.50, shipping included). Mine has a euro-plug. AC 100-240V.

Btw Ruyan batteries seem to last the longest both per charge and in lifetime.
Hope you find what you want

 

[Wwishes]

Thanks for that - I didn't realise that they were 3.6 instead of 1.5V. They do appear to be AAA size - pity that they do not seem to be switchable with the normal batteries. Maybe someone will come out with one that takes an AA???

Must admit to slipping today & having a few roll ups BUT in the middle of packing to go away & I always get a bit stressed doing that. Will try not to buy anything in duty free (GREAT temptation at our sky high prices - £3 instead of £11.50 for 50gm of GV!) & will take my pen ecig - although not brave enough to use in airport. (Don't want it confiscated).

Hopefully by the time I get back someone will have tried one of those Ruyan. Then again i may have quit????

 

[mixalisc]

Wwishes they are AAA but the type is Lithium-Ion 3.6v or 3.7v-4.2v which are not very easy to find. The ones that DealExtreme sells are supposedly 500mAh but some reviews say that they are overrated. Nevertheless they are still better than the cheap ones that e-cig sells.

but I read about 800 mAh being used without trouble

Katink I spent a lot of time trying to find AAA size Li-ion batteries that are more than 500mAh but I can't find anything. Can you please tell me where you read about the 800mAh ?

Michael C.

 

[katink]

Oeff, that was quite a while ago mixalisc, not sure if I could locate where anymore; it'll probably be buried deep in some forum by now. But I'll try, and will post if I do find it.

Btw those 500 mAh at DealXtreme: those have allready been corrected: they wére 600 (thats what my batteries say too: 600). Now they sell them as 500. So guessing that this is close to what they probably will be in reality.

 

[mixalisc]

Thanks katink, but if it's too much trouble don't bother searching for the post.

About the DealExtreme battery, DX states that the batteries have been tested and their capacity is 305mAh. It says it on the link you posted.

Quoting DealExtreme :

Note: Professional users have tested these batteries' capacity to be 305mAh each and Ultrafire is overrating them as 500mAh. Please read the "measured capacity" forum post below.

Michael C.

 

[katink]

Ah ok, thanks for that knowledge: missed it completely. So still far overrated then.... ouch.

 

[mindtrick]

So I received my Health Semi-Automatic E-Cigar today, and I am VERY unimpressed with it's performance thus far.

I'm not sure whether the lack of need for a vacuum switch is letting much more air into the unit when drawing, but while short puffs can produce some vapor when the atomizer is activated - none of it ever hits my lungs. I thought to myself that maybe this is just a cheap toy for the price, but damn near every review I read on these speaks of nothing else besides great vapor production, which I'm certainly not receiving. At all.

I gave both batteries a full charge and the performance is equal with both...next to no smoke. Looking at the atomizer it would seem as though there may be some small holes along the ring that seals the atomization chamber. The atomizer has no problem heating up as I can see the thing light up when the button is depressed. The cartridge (while tasting mostly like fog machine) is evidently making good contact with the fiber as there is a depression after removing the cartridge.

Comparing it to the NJOY, it feels almost as though there is no air "tension" in the device, drawing through the e-cigar is as easy as normal breathing. This doesn't feel right (like there's no way for vapor to accumulate inside the device) and feels like the source of my lack of vapor.

I'm prepared to let a battery charge while I sleep and see if the performance is any better in the morning...after that it looks as though I'll be claming a defective item through dealextreme and getting credit. The question is should I move up to the fully automatic E-Cigar..or try my luck with the highly defective mini-cigs? Any suggestions?

Edit: It would appear that dealextreme now carries a super-mini 4th gen. I think I'll go that route.

 

[leaford]

I'd say none of their other e-cigs are worth anything either, so just use the credit on cheap chinese gadgets. They've got lots of cool stuff.

Take an opportuinty to get something fun, but that you wouldn't usually have spent money on.

 

[TropicalBob]

From the vantage of been-there, done-that .. in restrospect I could have avoided five months of frustration by buying a good device in the first place. The Health mini cig is useless; my Health e-cigar from DealExtreme served fairly well but I had no idea how much vapor I could get until I got a pen style from myecig.com. Now, that's vapor.

A good e-cig from a reputable dealer is the best choice, although DealExtreme is a great company to deal with.

 

[mindtrick]

Well as much as I'd love some Chinese gadgets I'm a bit more interested in a 2nd e-cig product in case something goes wrong or a battery dies or whatever. I'm a bit hesitant to order another e-cigar from dealextreme, but it would appear that they've recently picked up some new products. I'm torn between:

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.11849
This guy looks incredibly similar to the 4th generation mid sizes sold by several ebay sellers. It's not much more money and will take me a bit closer to something I'd actually want to pay for if this unit doesn't work out. Something smaller wouldn't be a bad thing as I'd like to try something smaller than a pen size...and it appears more suitable for dripping compared to the health mini cigs everyone gripes about.

While browsing, I also came across a new mini they're offering and it's also tempting.
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.11850
Haven't seen this anywhere else and it looks like an ok product. At the very least the packaging is charming.

Anyone seen either of these in action?

 

[shawnp1]

i own two of them one of the biggest wastes of money i ever spent.

 

[mindtrick]

you own two of which ones? I'm not sure which model you're talking about.