Healthy- No Heat Vape – 0 Metallic Particles

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Hey everyone,

I just saw a presentation from Dr. Nathan Jackson from the University of New Mexico. He has developed an atomizer that is essentially heat free. His study shows that the vapor his atomizer produces contains no metallic particles in comparison to current atomizers. Just thinking about breathing in metal makes by want to try it. If the hit is equal to current vapes, I will definitely switch. What are your guys’ thoughts?
 

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zoiDman

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I seem to recall reading about VMA Tech years ago. Don't remember seeing much after the the initial Pilot Study was announced.

 

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I seem to recall reading about VMA Tech years ago. Don't remember seeing much after the the initial Pilot Study was announced.

Yes, this is the professor. The image I linked is from recent research that will be published soon.
 

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We're dancing around a very fine line here. Discussions regarding possible business opportunities isn't permitted on this site. This includes new devices that could possibly be marketed. If you wish to register as a supplier, then you can discuss this device at great length in your supplier forum.
 

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Whoa! So, according to this, nickel let’s out a bunch more particles compared to the others? That would mean that ni200 would be the worst offender from the “traditional vaping” test and Kanthal would be the best. I mainly vape with Kanthal, so that’s good lollll.

In general, I think the more we eliminate plastic and certain metals, the better, especially when heat is involved.

IMO, as far as people making the switch goes, it would have to be close to the same experience as the current vapes or most people won’t care. I’m talking about everything from beginning to end, like cost, setup, flavor, etc.

I’d definitely try it after seeing it reviewed, fasho.
 

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Whoa! So, according to this, nickel let’s out a bunch more particles compared to the others? That would mean that ni200 would be the worst offender from the “traditional vaping” test and Kanthal would be the best. I mainly vape with Kanthal, so that’s good lollll.

In general, I think the more we eliminate plastic and certain metals, the better, especially when heat is involved.

IMO, as far as people making the switch goes, it would have to be close to the same experience as the current vapes or most people won’t care. I’m talking about everything from beginning to end, like cost, setup, flavor, etc.

I’d definitely try it after seeing it reviewed, fasho.

Be Careful drawing too much from "Naked Statistics" like the Bar Graph in the 1st Post.

If you Don't Know how the Data was Sampled/Tabulated or what Methods were used to to obtain the Data, you really Don't Know Much.

A great example of this is when Slantz was Shaking Down grant money at CSUSF. He was the Poster Child for publishing papers about Metal Particles in e-Cigarette Vapor. But When you delved past the "Save the Children" Hype and the Questionable Statistics, Slantz and his team of Minions were measuring vapor coming off Coils with a Temperature in the 450F ~ 550F range.

This was Basically "Dry Burning". Something No One could Inhale except by Accident. But, of course, that wasn't mentioned. Or the Fact that in All but the Most Extreme Data, e-Cigarettes vapor still came in containing Less Metal Particles than regular Cigarettes.

It is No Surprise that almost every e-cigarette Metal Particles paper Slantz's published have been Peer-Reviewed Discredited.

So TL/DR... Unless you Know what they used to generate the Data (Type of e-Cigarette/Type e-Liquid/Watt/Temp/Airflow/etc) and then what they did to the Data to get the Numbers they say are Meaningful, you really Don't Know More that when you started.

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Note: I'm Not Say'n that Coils made of something like Ni200 (or any other material) are "Safe" to use. Or that they (or any other material) are Not "Safe" to use. My post is a comment as to How Much Belief one might put into "Naked" Numbers presented as a conclusion.
 
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