Hello and help

[elfstone]

I know what I feel like after an analog or two but being that a cartomizer is the same as a pack it's hard for me to think of when to stop. Are you saying its going to take more time to get the nicotine buzz?

The answer is (1) you'll know and (2) no, a cartomizer is NOT equivalent to a pack. More like 4-5 cigarettes, I'd say. But I lost any equivalence along the way - there is nothing similar to the way I smoked in my vaping habits now. You cannot draw any equivalence in total mg of nicotine, or in vaping time. There is no meaningful relationship, but on the average, I'd dare say that no 1 PAD smoker is satisfied with 1 ml/day (that's what the regular carto holds). It's more like 4-5 ml/day, with a very wide range (I'd venture to say, from what I read on this forum, 3-15 ml/day).

I guess each may vape in their own way, and one's vaping routine may change over time. There's no rule.

I guess a lot of long time vapers tend to have long vaping sessions / chain vaping rather than brief "cigarette replacement" sessions.

I for one tend to vape long periods - 15 minutes to 1 hour; then I find myself going without a vape even for a full day. Very little in the way of actual cravings after a month or so of exclusive vaping.

In the beginning, I found it very useful to vape "preemptively" - start vaping when I anticipated that something was going to trigger the crave for a cigarette, like ending a meal or a TV show or n the morning or whatnot. I would vape as soon as I'd realize this might trigger a crave, and tried not to wait until I actually craved the cigarette.

It is very true what has been said - nicotine from vapor gets absorbed slower, so you need to give vaping a little more time: if, let's say, it took you 5 minutes to finish a cigarette, it doesn't mean that 5 minutes of vaping will suffice. It is, however, very individual, and it's hard to make generalizations.

 

[godthisblows]

First we have to know the brand of analogs you are smoking and the quantity per day. From that point you can decide what size of batts/ PV and level of nicotine you would need. About knowing when to stop- your body/ nervous system will tell you- getting headaches, nausea, calmness, etc. Also your lifestyle- work situation, at home a lot, etc. Most decide on the 510 connector because they seem to be the most popular and offer the widest choice among vendors. If you are really stuck on a certain 808 PV then you can buy a 808 to 510 adapter for a few dollars BUT this adapter will make your PV slightly longer. Some will buy an adapter if they're using auto batts and there is no juice well to protect the battery. My PV has a connector that accepts both 510 and 808 although I really have no use for the 808.
Good Luck.

I smoke American Spirit Mellows. On a typical weekday I smoke 1 in the morning before work and 3-4 at night when I get home. I know I'm not a super heavy smoker but there are times that I smoke more. Typically when I'm out drinking I smoke a cigarette an hour which is why I'm looking to change to vamping as the next day I reek so bad of cigarette smoke and honestly can't stand the smell of it.

 

[nad33m]

I know about the different battery sizes but am not sure which to get. I know that they make adapters for some of the different sized batteries. Are they any good or should I just buy new batteries?

Dont think you will need an adapter, batteries dont last forever, auto and manual batteries fail after sometime, some because of the switch/air sensor, or just become weak even after recharging. So you just use it for the moment its working with the atomizer or cartomizers that fit it. Ive had 2 901 batteries that are still working well after 2 years. Ive had 2 batteries stop working after about a year one due to the switchand one due to the air sensor, and I lost one battery (still dont know where )

There is alot "branding" of devices but vaping is really simple... how to get that juice vaporised and inhaled. Kits and brands are good to attract people, they serve a purpose but all you need is a battery, a charger, cartomizer (usually a pack of 5) and a some juice. Get 2 botles one 11mg and one 24mg or 36mg. then u can mix the drops to get a higher mg level. Good luck.

 

[elfstone]

I know about the different battery sizes but am not sure which to get.

I don't want to seem disrespectful, but I think you're overhinking this. Have you tried to vape at all yet?

If not, then I'd do exactly what nad33m suggested, but where he says "battery" I'd say "KGO battery" and where he says "pack of 5 cartomizers", I'd say "pack of 5 Boge 2.0 Ohm cartomizers". This will give you a certainly okay and reliable vaping experience, and you will be able to use the KGO in the future until it dies pretty much regardless which way you decide to go from there with your purchases.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

You are a very light smoker and prolly 8 or 6 mg nicotine would suffice. As for a PV unless you're looking for a real strong hit a 350 mah batt would prolly suffice but a 650 mah would be better as it allows more options with cartomizer, attys, etc. 100 mah= 1 hr normal vaping. The 510 connector devices are more popular and it's easier to find accessories for it but if you're really stuck on an 808 you could always buy a 808 to 510 adapter if needed but realize it will make the PV a little longer.
Good Luck.

I smoke American Spirit Mellows. On a typical weekday I smoke 1 in the morning before work and 3-4 at night when I get home. I know I'm not a super heavy smoker but there are times that I smoke more. Typically when I'm out drinking I smoke a cigarette an hour which is why I'm looking to change to vamping as the next day I reek so bad of cigarette smoke and honestly can't stand the smell of it.

 

[T-Mac]

Hello & welcome to ECF!!! Start with a kit and if you find that vaping is for you then go all out, your going to anyway just skip the formalities lol.

 

[Mikey Likesit]

Money wasn't an issue for me either but i thought something simple like the eGo style kits was an easy way for me to experiment with different setups. Like carto's, clearo's, differing ohm's and coils and such before i got into the mods and VV's.

 

[Dragoncqb]

Well a cigarette delivers nicotine into your system through your lungs in a matter of a few seconds, e-cigarettes delivers most of the nicotine into system through your mouth and can take up to seven minutes in the beginning before you feel that calming feeling from your first few draw. However after a day or so your body will except the change and you will notice no difference and your craving will be satisfied by the e-cigarette. Now the fun part the flavors so many options you will be amazed at what you'll like for instance I never smoked menthol I just did not like it but now its a favorite of mine along with most mint like flavors and fruit flavors. You may not know it yet but you are starting a new hobby as time passes and you read a learn more you start to think huh I need a mod and I have try my hand at making my own juice but there is time for all that. Right now just try to match your e-cig and flavor cartomizers as close to your brand of cigarettes as you can AND TREAT IT LIKE YOU WOULD A CIGARETTE use it and put it down till you need it again you can get carried away with the novelty of it and find you have raised your nicotine level higher than when smoking cigarettes. I hope this helps

 

[elfstone]

Right now just try to match your e-cig and flavor cartomizers as close to your brand of cigarettes as you can AND TREAT IT LIKE YOU WOULD A CIGARETTE use it and put it down till you need it again you can get carried away with the novelty of it and find you have raised your nicotine level higher than when smoking cigarettes.

I respectfully disagree. And that, while I agree with everything you said prior to that, hence the "like".

In the very beginning, I tried to preempt my cravings by vaping every time I knew something was going to trigger the craving for a cigarette, but soon I started vaping quite differently. I would even say - be aware that vaping is not smoking, and DON'T try to emulate your smoking habits - it's neither necessary, nor satisfying. You can't vape for five minutes and expect the same hit as from a cigarette, so why try?!

You rarely hear anybody complaining about nicotine "overdose" and at most you hear people getting a little bit of a headache, maybe. I only got some effects of overexposure when I had screwed up something in my DIY nicotine levels and against my better judgement and out of curiosity I kept vaping although I knew I was getting too much.

The point is that you can keep vaping and you'll get soon to a "steady state" where because of the way nicotine is absorbed you can't "raise the level" too much anymore even if you keep at it for hours. And the other point is that your body will let you know if you're overdoing it, at which point you should stop and consider lowering the nicotine level in the juice and then you'll find the nicotine concentration that will allow you vaping sessions of indefinite duration.

I'd watch out for headache, heartburn, palpitations, and hiccups. Very unlikely to get as far as nausea, but still. If you get any of that consistently as you vape, it's time to drop the nic level in the juice.

I found this on my own, and has been confirmed over and over by other vapers on the forum, that after some time, you stop getting cravings for nicotine when you don't vape for long times, regardless how long your vaping sessions are. This leads me to believe that due to the absorption rate, most likely, and also due to the absence of other "enhancers" present in cigarette smoke, vaping doesn't cause the nicotine spikes and the combined nicotine+MAOI high caused by smoking, which is why we get away with long sessions and no / little cravings.