Hello ECF! I rebuild disposable ce4s, I vape distilled water in my ejuice was told PNEUMONIA

[VapingOnABudget]

Hello everyone,

Just like many other people have reported here, I am a former smoker. I smoked from the time I was 12 till 2 & 1/2 months ago. I quit before in july of 2014 and the lasted a whole 3 months before I caved in and sparked up. With vaping it has been relatively easy. Not only have I saved a ton of money, my doctor says my bloodpressure is normal. For years I was told I needed to take blood pressure meds, I never did tho.

I vape with the ce4 clearomizers and ego-t/evod batteries. I get them so cheap and I rebuild them. If I need a massive cloud I will just hit 4 CE4's at once lol.

My favorite e-juice is a 50/50 blend with 24mg of Nic.

I buy it premixed at a vape shop. They only have two blends of this fl50vg, 50/50 and 30pg/70vg.

There is no way a Ce4 is going to operate properly with 70vg. With the 50/50 my CE4s are useally only good for a day before I have to rebuild them.

Lastnight I got sick and tired of having to rebuild these ce4s after less than a day sometimes. I keep getting dry hits and the wick is turning black very quick.

I decided to dilute my e-juice with 2ml of distilled water to every 8mjuicemy 50/50 juice.

After hours and hours of use the coils are super clean compared to the black cruddy burned wicked ce4s I just used 50/50 in.

The vape store I frequent uses a 300mg per nicotine. I overheard them talking about it one day. I wanted to know what vehicle is in so. Could figure out the exact ratio of my ejuice. I called and told me it was pg. I told them about the distilled water I added to their juice @ 2 parts per 8 or 20%.

He said not to smoke it becuase it can cause an pneumonia. He said even a small amount of water in the ejuice will cuase an pneumomia. I asked him if this was theoretical or if there was cases. He said there are many reported cases.

Is this true? Will I get pneumonia from vaping even a small amount of water in ejuice?

Tl;dr
My ejuice has 20% distilled water 40pg%, and 40vg%. Will I get a pneunomia from vaping this?

 

[Grimwald]

Never heard this. Lots of folks use some h2o in their liquid. Either your source is misinformed or trying not to lose business.

 

[VapingOnABudget]

Thanks for the reply. It doesn't really compute with me that putting water in ejuice would cuase pneumonia. We inhale water vapor everytime we take a hot shower, or sit in a sauna.

 

[Cheallaigh]

what they are talking about is... the build up of fluid in your lungs can lead to pneumonia. this isn't like taking a shower and a sauna fyi is a dry heat...

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Thanks for the reply. It doesn't really compute with me that putting water in ejuice would cuase pneumonia. We inhale water vapor everytime we take a hot shower, or sit in a sauna.

Doesn't that much water dilute the taste?

 

[VapingOnABudget]

Ted

what they are talking about is... the build up of fluid in your lungs can lead to pneumonia. this isn't like taking a shower and a sauna fyi is a dry heat...

So what is your position? Do you believe adding distilled water can lead to a pneunomia?

Doesn't that much water dilute the taste?

The flavor I'm partial too is actually a bit strong. Diluting it with water surprisingly doesn't effect it much. It does have a stronger throad hit by 20% which is good in my opinion as I am a former smoker.

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Ted

So what is your position? Do you believe adding distilled water can lead to a pneunomia?



The flavor I'm partial too is actually a bit strong. Diluting it with water surprisingly doesn't effect it much. It does have a stronger throad hit by 20% which is good in my opinion as I am a former smoker.

You could have gotten the same stronger throat hit by upping the pg instead of the water. Pg carries flavor better than vg. I admit that on occasion I have added maybe a couple of drops of distilled H20 to a 30ml bottle, but I usually just adjust the pg/vg ratio when mixing my own.

 

[Cheallaigh]

since I've had pneumonia and high humidity feels like I'm trying to breath in water... I wouldn't try it myself. I know my limits and yours are different.

 

[Bonskibon]

My ejuice has 20% distilled water 40pg%, and 40vg%. Will I get a pneunomia from vaping this?

That's a lot of water. Not sure I would feel comfortable vaping that. Have you considered making your own juice? You can add as much PG/VG as you want doing it yourself.

 

[440BB]

Thinning eliquid with distilled water is a very common practice, both among those who make their own liquid (DIY) and those who just need to improve the flow of high VG liquid. Some vendors sell VG which has already been thinned this way in order for it to flow adequately, as straight VG is very thick.

I have not seen any reports linking pneumonia to added distilled water in eliquid. I have been thinning VG with 15% water myself for over three years with no adverse effects.

 

[classwife]

Sometimes I just can't believe the things that people are told.

The standard recipe for E-Liquid is PG, VG, Nic, Distilled Water (to thin to desired consistency) and Flavoring.

 

[VapingOnABudget]

since I've had pneumonia and high humidity feels like I'm trying to breath in water... I wouldn't try it myself. I know my limits and yours are different.

My guess is you have some kind of predisposition to not easily clearing precipitation from your lungs.

Inhale any combination of pg/vg and exhale thru ur nose will you will certainly notice fluid buildup but it quickly goes away.

That's a lot of water. Not sure I would feel comfortable vaping that. Have you considered making your own juice? You can add as much PG/VG as you want doing it yourself.

You could have gotten the same stronger throat hit by upping the pg instead of the water. Pg carries flavor better than vg. I admit that on occasion I have added maybe a couple of drops of distilled H20 to a 30ml bottle, but I usually just adjust the pg/vg ratio when mixing my own.

I have distilled water on hand, When I get a chance to pickup some pg I will probably discontinue the water.

Sometimes I just can't believe the things that people are told.

The standard recipe for E-Liquid is PG, VG, Nic, Distilled Water (to thin to desired consistency) and Flavoring.

I remeber being told that propylene glycol is actually only used for throught hit sensation. So if I wanted to thin my e-juice without producing a huge increase in throat sensation, pg would be a no-go.

I'm not really suprised I was told something wrong from a vape store employee. In thr past 2 months every question I asked in various vape shops was answered with a response that was wrong. I was told a single ce4 would last a few months. I was also told they couldn't be rebuilt. And alot of questions were answered with "Im not sure".

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

I have distilled water on hand, When I get a chance to pickup some pg I will probably discontinue the water.



I remeber being told that propylene glycol is actually only used for throught hit sensation. So if I wanted to thin my e-juice without producing a huge increase in throat sensation, pg would be a no-go.

Why don't you use a 2nd empty bottle and this time try it with pg. Doesn't have to be a big bottle just use the same ratios on a smaller scale. That is the only way you can really tell if you prefer it to the H20. And as long as you are happy with your mix......

PG carries flavor better than vg. The nicotine is what is producing the throat hit. Some vendors are known for their 'peppery tasting' nic base. In fact a lot of vapers prefer this. Others, like me, prefer a smoother hit so we seek out those vendors known for a smoother nic base.

Isn't it great that vaping is not one size fits all.

 

[440BB]

I support a vaper who has used CE4's exclusively for over three years, and with a clear unsweetened liquid they usually last about two to three weeks at most. CE4's need thinner viscosity liquid than many of the newer toppers. I mix liquid which is 2/3 PG and 1/3 VG (thinned 15% water) and it flows very well without leaking. Although PG may have a bit of harshness, it also doesn't feel as "heavy" in the lungs as VG and was the majority liquid in most mixes for years. PG may very well help reduce the likelihood of pneumonia and other illness as it is antimicrobial. A large number of vapers report reduced incidents of colds, bronchitis, etc, including myself.

Pretty much all the informed answers you need are right here on ECF. Welcome to our forum and good luck!

 

[daviedog]

I live in South Florida,, right now the dew point is 81°, there is No increase or likelyhood of contracting pneumonia.
Rust mabey..

 

[Cheallaigh]

yep I'm prone to it, with lungs that were torched in a fire and asthma, but it is a way to get it.. fluid filled lungs it's the only thing I can think they were referring to. if you've been doing it a good while I wouldn't worry, I just know for me, I wouldn't do it. like I said I know my limits yours are different.

nah not rust.... MOLD!

 

[Canadian_Vaper]

Is this true? Will I get pneumonia from vaping even a small amount of water in ejuice?

No it's not true...

I've been using distilled water in my mixes for over a year, the amount you are using is overkill though. Usually just a few drops is enough for 100ml of juice.. I've had no pneumonia, no flu, had a cold once but nothing to cry about..

 

[Bunnykiller]

lets set this straight... pneumonia is a bacteria that can cause an excess of fluid build up in the lungs... now do tell, how will distilled water or even average tap water ( with chlorine) induce pnuemococcis bacteria into the lungs ?????
One needs to question any source of information with a bit of doubt before believing the source. There are way too many people claiming "facts" without positive proof to back up the so called facts they present...

one needs to be very comprimised health wise for pneumococcis bacteria to overwhelm the amune system to cause pneumonia... we are constantly inhaling bacteria that can cause health issues but miraculasy we survive the onslaught on a daily basis... thanks to evolution and T cells we survive this this daily bombardment.....

our lungs are normally a moist enviroment... 90% humidity on average... at what point is it considered when the humidity level constitues a situation when one is inflicted with pneumonia ( other than the bacterial infection) ... are you running a fever? are you coughing excessively? do you wheeze with every exhale? if not, I seriously doubt pneumonia has a grasp...

question the source.... do some research....

 

[Bunnykiller]

since I've had pneumonia and high humidity feels like I'm trying to breath in water... I wouldn't try it myself. I know my limits and yours are different.

come visit us in New Orleans during the summer months.. and bring your gills

 

[daviedog]

yep I'm prone to it, with lungs that were torched in a fire and asthma, but it is a way to get it.. fluid filled lungs it's the only thing I can think they were referring to. if you've been doing it a good while I wouldn't worry, I just know for me, I wouldn't do it. like I said I know my limits yours are different.

nah not rust.... MOLD!

Mold! Tell me about it!
I contacted pneumonia in the hospital years ago. Progressed to pleurisy in hours. Wont tell ya how that's delt with. I feel for you Lady..