Hello Everyone! Just bought my first E-Cig setup...

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I've been drinking more water and it has helped to a degree. I also think part of it might be me pulling way harder on this thing than i would for an analog. I'm told I should switch to manual batteries. I might do that eventually.
That was good advice.
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Also, remember to take longer, slower drags.
But if you really feel you MUST take quick, short drags there are solutions for that.
 

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Another thing I've heard lots of ECF users say is to use a lower nic level at night, closer to bed time, so it's not so harsh on your throat if you find you're waking up with a sore throat. I find if I vape a little less close to going to sleep I don't wake up with the sore throat.
I'll never give up my auto Echo. It has a nice easy draw and doesn't make me like I'm sucking milk shake through a coffee straw.
 

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Thanks for the help and advice everyone! I've been drinking a lot of water and it has helped. I might also try VGs at some point and get manual batteries eventually. However, I want to get my money's worth out of what I have first.

I just started vaping my coffee and tabacco variety kits. I think I'm going to switch to sweet flavors completely. The vanilla mocha frappe flavor is crazy good. Also, this will help push me further away from analogs and that's the whole point of this venture for me anyway.

One thing I'm finding very frustrating is the stigma attached to vaping by both smokers and non-smokers. Non-smokers still think of me as a smelly addict and smokers think of me as a weird bandwagoner, although that might change soon. I'm trying to get all my smoker friends to make the switch. Hopefully this will change over time. How you guys had any issues with social stigma and vaping?
 

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One thing I'm finding very frustrating is the stigma attached to vaping by both smokers and non-smokers. Non-smokers still think of me as a smelly addict and smokers think of me as a weird bandwagoner, although that might change soon. I'm trying to get all my smoker friends to make the switch. Hopefully this will change over time. How you guys had any issues with social stigma and vaping?

Unfortunately this is pretty common. You'll find resistance to the strangest things from people you'd think should be interested. All you can do is just shrug, vape away and enjoy not having cigarettes. Preferably in their faces until they get the point. :)

But just keep doing what you're doing and if anyone seems interested give them the details and hopefully you'll have more people on board to join the chorus of voices against the naysayers.
 

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I also think part of it might be me pulling way harder on this thing than i would for an analog. I'm told I should switch to manual batteries.

I'm on day 3 with my automatic Volt and no analogs, and yesterday I figured out the issue with pulling too hard, which I was doing for the first day and a half. With an analog, the harder you draw, the more smoke you get. With a personal vaporizer, it's the opposite. The PV, whether manual or automatic, is simply on or off, so it produces the same amount of vapor per second whether you're pulling hard or soft. Pulling softly will mix less air with the vapor and will actually result in a higher concentration of vapor in your mouth at the end of your pull.
 
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Drinking water is good but... from my experience I would say that your problem is most likely due to either
1) your getting some juice in your throat from sucking too hard and the juice is irritating it
2) if your carto uses filling then there might be some burning (possibly defective carto) and that is irritating your throat. Put a different carto on and see what happens.
 

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I'm on day 3 with my automatic Volt and no analogs, and yesterday I figured out the issue with pulling too hard, which I was doing for the first day and a half. With an analog, the harder you draw, the more smoke you get. With a personal vaporizer, it's the opposite. The PV, whether manual or automatic, is simply on or off, so it produces the same amount of vapor per second whether you're pulling hard or soft. Pulling softly will mix less air with the vapor and will actually result in a higher concentration of vapor in your mouth at the end of your pull.

Holy crap you're right! I tried this my whole ride to work and it was amazing. One other thing I've been concerned about is that I might be getting myself more addicted to nicotine by vaping. I initially bought this as a quitting aid. Now, I end up vaping for much longer than a cigarette would have lasted. How do you all keep yourselves in check when it comes to vaping?

Also, you might be right about pulling too hard scrapperdog. I've had less of a problem since I started taking longer, slower drags.
 

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...How do you all keep yourselves in check when it comes to vaping?

Right now I just Don't Worry About It.

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I'm not smoking analogs so that in itself is a major accomplishment - but my long-term plan is to step down to 0mg nicotine.

I'm not trying to minimize your concerns and I've only been doing this a couple weeks longer than you, but if you're not smoking sickarettes then you've really accomplished something - maybe relaxing and enjoying the accomplishment is the thing to do :)
 

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Holy crap you're right!

I'm glad to have this confirmed! :) I was worried that it would be like when I has 1/2 way through telling someone how a photocopier works when I realized that I have no idea how a photocopier works.

Now, I end up vaping for much longer than a cigarette would have lasted. How do you all keep yourselves in check when it comes to vaping?

From what I've read on this forum, this is common at first. I've been doing the same thing. The consensus seem to be, don't beat yourself up. If you're worried about the qty of nicotine, gradually move to a lower nicotine percentage.
 

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Holy crap you're right! I tried this my whole ride to work and it was amazing. One other thing I've been concerned about is that I might be getting myself more addicted to nicotine by vaping. I initially bought this as a quitting aid. Now, I end up vaping for much longer than a cigarette would have lasted. How do you all keep yourselves in check when it comes to vaping?

Also, you might be right about pulling too hard scrapperdog. I've had less of a problem since I started taking longer, slower drags.

If you find yourself vaping a lot (and are sure it's not just the "this is awesome!" novelty factor still talking) then you may need to up your dosage. I had the same problem when I first started. I began at 18mg liquid, and it seemed okay -- my cravings were satisfied -- but I had to take great big pulls and vape very frequently to get the kind of throat hit that satisfied me. Eventually I bumped it up to 24mg and now I'm way more satisfied. I vape a lot less (settle down to about 3ml a day) and I get more satisfaction in shorter drags than I used to at 18mg.

Has it gotten me more addicted to nicotine? Hard to say. Absorption rates of nicotine through vapor vs. smoke vs. dermal contact (patches) vs. ingestion (gums/lozenges) are all different, and nobody really knows in particular what the differences in absorption rates of vapor vs. smoke are except that the general consensus is that vapor appears to be a less efficient delivery method.

But either way, I kind of think, "so what?" In and of itself, nicotine is not as addictive as you might think (it gets an addictive boost when paired with the MAOIs in cigarettes which E-liquids do not have, so outside the context of tobacco it loses a good portion of its addictive power) nor tremendously harmful. Its primary physiological effect is vasoconstriction -- shrinkage of the veins. But we get that in varying degrees from sodium, caffeine, dairy products, packaged cereals (cooked cereals like oatmeal are an exception), coconut, chocolate (technically that's the caffeine again), soft drinks (in addition to caffeine), alcohol (in larger quantities -- interestingly, in small quantities, alcohol is actually a vasodilator), anything with nitrites and nitrates (most commercially packaged pre-cooked meats) and more, so it isn't like this isn't a problem we don't already deal with daily irrespective of smoking.

That said though it's still possible to cut down, but I think you need to find your comfort zone first so that you can actually enjoy it before making a conscious effort to start cutting down. And in that regard it's probably best to cut down slowly and in the smallest increments you can find. (I can't recall who at this specific moment but I do know of one vendor who offers all their juices in strengths from 0mg to 24mg in 2mg increments.) That would make it more effortless and wouldn't be as much of a change to your body to the extent where you'll feel like you're missing much; the smaller decrements and slow pace will make each step down feel only marginally lighter than the last and give you time to adjust to it.
 

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Right now I just Don't Worry About It.

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I'm not smoking analogs so that in itself is a major accomplishment - but my long-term plan is to step down to 0mg nicotine.

I'm not trying to minimize your concerns and I've only been doing this a couple weeks longer than you, but if you're not smoking sickarettes then you've really accomplished something - maybe relaxing and enjoying the accomplishment is the thing to do :)

That's a good point. I did start this as a way to quit smoking. However, just enjoying e-cigs as much as I enjoyed cigarettes is an accomplishment as well. I really have no desire for analogs anymore. Hopefully, I'll eventually wean myself down to 0mg nicotine too.

EDIT: Thanks for the suggestions Mindfield and Wizard. I'll check out that thread. Right now, I don't think I want to increase my dosage. The whole point of switching to e-cigs was to get off nicotine entirely. I'm concerned that switching to a higher dosage would just put me further back from my goal.
 
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Welcome to ECF and as you have heard it is normal. Sore throat, coughing, etc. Your body is getting rid of a lot of crud that is in cigarettes and it will pass. Did you get the part about water :) Vaping is terrific and I think most find they will be converting loved ones, friends, strangers, the mailman, and whoever will listen!
 

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I vape more than I smoked previously. Because it's so addictive and I love the different flavors. I have a lanyard I hang my PV on so when I'm working through the house, walking or whatever, it's right there! Didn't smoke in the house or car or around the grandchildren. So yeah, I THINK I'm getting more nicotene, lol, who knows...but at least I don't smell!! At least not from those nasty analogs!! Good Luck on your new venture and congratulations!

That's a good point. I did start this as a way to quit smoking. However, just enjoying e-cigs as much as I enjoyed cigarettes is an accomplishment as well. I really have no desire for analogs anymore. Hopefully, I'll eventually wean myself down to 0mg nicotine too.

EDIT: Thanks for the suggestions Mindfield and Wizard. I'll check out that thread. Right now, I don't think I want to increase my dosage. The whole point of switching to e-cigs was to get off nicotine entirely. I'm concerned that switching to a higher dosage would just put me further back from my goal.
 
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