With 100mg nic you must dilute it way down for 6mg. That is the reason you will need the extras. What concentration pg/vg do you want to make? Couldn't read the attach. on my screen.
Hello everyone .New Here and could use some advice with Flavored nic combine,
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Well flavoring is very concentrated, he wouldn't want to use 20% unless he's talking about a mixed juice instead of flavoring.
you want to make 20ml @ 6mg.
so you need 1.2 ml of your nic liquid (0.9ml is vg, and 0.3 is pg)
add 20% of pg flavour = 4 ml.
We now have a total of 5.2 ml of which 4.3ml is pg and 0.9 is vg. This leaves you with 14.8ml to fill with vg and pg. So you need 14.1 ml of vg and 0.7 of pg to finish your mix.
vg total: 0.9+14.1=15. pg total: 0.3+4+0.7=5.
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so you need 1.2 ml of your nic liquid (0.9ml is vg, and 0.3 is pg)
add 20% of pg flavour = 4 ml.
We now have a total of 5.2 ml of which 4.3ml is pg and 0.9 is vg. This leaves you with 14.8ml to fill with vg and pg. So you need 14.1 ml of vg and 0.7 of pg to finish your mix.
vg total: 0.9+14.1=15. pg total: 0.3+4+0.7=5.
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here is the actual link to the recipe from the website. Should be able to see all the details there or just search for bjones1309 as the user name or BriansCinAmint as the recipe name
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You're a quick study, Brian! But like rc3po said, 20% flavoring is typically way too much; most recipes go for 5-10% from what I've seen. But...
By Jove, I think he's got it!
By Jove, I think he's got it!
Warning: math ahead! Just for those interested.
If you don't mind the "natural" PG/VG ratio, some of the calculations you can do by hand aren't so bad (and if they are cringe-inducing, you can always stick to a calculator!). But, if you're stranded without internet access and really need some liquid mixed up... Anyway.
If you want 20 ml of liquid with 6 mg/ml of nicotine, that 20 ml will contain 6*20 = 120 mg of nicotine, total. Luckily, since all the nicotine will be coming from your 100 mg/ml bottle, the nicotine content is fairly easy to find: you want 120/100 = 1.2 ml of the 100mg/ml nicotine liquid. That means the rest, 20 - 1.2 = 18.8 ml will be the no-nic liquid.
Just using those two liquids, you can't vary the PG/VG ratio, because the calculation above shows you that the nicotine concentration completely determines the ratio of each liquid.
With a bit more math, we can see the VG (and hence PG) ratio of the liquid at the desired nicotine strength.
The VG is only coming from the nicotine liquid. 75% of 1.2 ml is 0.9 ml, which is 0.9/20 = 0.045 = 4.5% of the 20ml. That leaves 95.5% of the liquid being PG.
Even though I can't resist the opportunity to do some math, that was a bit more involved than I anticipated. Calculators for the win!
If you don't mind the "natural" PG/VG ratio, some of the calculations you can do by hand aren't so bad (and if they are cringe-inducing, you can always stick to a calculator!). But, if you're stranded without internet access and really need some liquid mixed up... Anyway.
If you want 20 ml of liquid with 6 mg/ml of nicotine, that 20 ml will contain 6*20 = 120 mg of nicotine, total. Luckily, since all the nicotine will be coming from your 100 mg/ml bottle, the nicotine content is fairly easy to find: you want 120/100 = 1.2 ml of the 100mg/ml nicotine liquid. That means the rest, 20 - 1.2 = 18.8 ml will be the no-nic liquid.
Just using those two liquids, you can't vary the PG/VG ratio, because the calculation above shows you that the nicotine concentration completely determines the ratio of each liquid.
With a bit more math, we can see the VG (and hence PG) ratio of the liquid at the desired nicotine strength.
The VG is only coming from the nicotine liquid. 75% of 1.2 ml is 0.9 ml, which is 0.9/20 = 0.045 = 4.5% of the 20ml. That leaves 95.5% of the liquid being PG.
Even though I can't resist the opportunity to do some math, that was a bit more involved than I anticipated. Calculators for the win!
Sounds better than mine - i think i went for 6%!
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I made a mistake and forgot to zero the nic on the calculator for the flavoring. The calculator defaults to 10mg - I forgot about that.
Revised:
0.8 nic, 4ml pg flavour.
0.8 pg, 14.4 vg.
Thanks r3cpo - i'm pleased the maths still works.
Next week - special edition on vapour's tongue from flavour overdose!
But anyway - you get the idea. When i make my liquid - i use a calculator and a pen and paper. I'm not certain which i trust more.
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0.8 nic, 4ml pg flavour.
0.8 pg, 14.4 vg.
Thanks r3cpo - i'm pleased the maths still works.
Next week - special edition on vapour's tongue from flavour overdose!
But anyway - you get the idea. When i make my liquid - i use a calculator and a pen and paper. I'm not certain which i trust more.
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Yeah. I don't see why they would default to 10% nic. Oh well, better to mix less nic than too much I guess.
Let me try to explain this a little better, I currently buy premixed juice at a local store and itscalled cinnamon mint @ 6 mg nic and 60/40 VG,PG. . I like it but it needs a little tuning so when I get home I fill up my Kayfun (about 2ml) and then I add four drops of milk chocolate, three drops of sweet cream, two drops of sweetener. These are just regular DIY 100% PG juice. It’s much cheaper to just buy the DIY cinnamon mint DIY juice at that local store instead of the premixed juice they make me and since I have lots of supplies and juice at home I figured I would just make my own, basically copy it. But I ran out of my other bottle of nicotine and I have a brand-new bottle of this nicotine I’m talking about now that already has a base of 25% PG and 75% VG ( i think that was a run on sentence )
So basically even though I will still confuse you because I can’t seem to explain it correctly I just want to add my three DIY flavors that I usually add with the DIY Cinnamon mint from that local store instead of putting it in a kayfun each time I want to make a bottle since I have a new bottle of MFS nic but of course I have to make it difficult because its 25%pg and 75%VG
BTW thanky you all for your responses and sorry if I confuse you guys
So basically even though I will still confuse you because I can’t seem to explain it correctly I just want to add my three DIY flavors that I usually add with the DIY Cinnamon mint from that local store instead of putting it in a kayfun each time I want to make a bottle since I have a new bottle of MFS nic but of course I have to make it difficult because its 25%pg and 75%VG
BTW thanky you all for your responses and sorry if I confuse you guys
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The reason i still think it's 1.2ml is this: 6mg x 20ml = 120mg total of nicotine.
120/100mg/ml = 1.2ml.
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120/100mg/ml = 1.2ml.
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UMMMMMMMM.................... Could you repeat that LOL. I see what your saying readeuler and I really appreciate you explaining it to me even though I just took some Advil its just that dam premixed nic I had to get a few months ago (stored in dark cool fridge just for my E juice supplies) . I should just say screw it and go buy unflavored nic like I am use to mixing lol.
thanks again to all who have replied. I really really appreciate it.
Oh and real quick what is answer to this math question Mr. Genuis.....
Question : There is a three digit number. The second digit is four times as big as the third digit, while the first digit is three less than the second digit. What is the number? LOL good luck, I'll tell you the answer unless you look it up first
Not at all, in fact every recipe in existence is just that kind of messing about; i know for a fact all of mine are - and once in a while you will make something so horrendous, that not even orange brandy can save it! That's the stuff you give away
(usually HRH vapes it quite happily).T
ok maybe supertrucker is the genuis. Actually there are a lot of smart people here from the posts I have read. God I feel stupid
Does your diy cinnamint flavoring come from a vendor already mixed to flavor your own nic concentration/base? If so what percentage of that will you use in your mix? Do you want your end mix to be 60/40 vg/pg? If I am understanding correctly you are using a vendors flavoring not a premade juice, you want to add some extra choc/sw cream/sweetener to that mix?
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