Smok tanks are fine, the coils not so much, bad quality control. I normally do not recommend building to newer vapers but in your case you might consider a single coil rta if you can source the wire.
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@tailland
Yup, I saw that too. All I am hoping for is that even if I cannot get my hands on anything related to vaping, I dont fall back to smoking. It was the intent anyway, but I am not sure if that would be the achievement
Yup, I saw that too. All I am hoping for is that even if I cannot get my hands on anything related to vaping, I dont fall back to smoking. It was the intent anyway, but I am not sure if that would be the achievement
@Letitia
So single coil RTA in the big baby or something like that?
This coil building needs tools and all that other paraphernalia right?
So single coil RTA in the big baby or something like that?
This coil building needs tools and all that other paraphernalia right?
I don't know when that ban will be implemented, but you could still try to get your hands on a pack of things that would last you a few years down the road.@tailland
Yup, I saw that too. All I am hoping for is that even if I cannot get my hands on anything related to vaping, I dont fall back to smoking. It was the intent anyway, but I am not sure if that would be the achievement
Here's what I recommend:
Mod - Just get a Pico. It's simple, portable and it just works! - iStick Pico - Eleaf electronic cigarette
Tank (with drop-in coils) - Kabuki or Vika Fantasy. Kabuki - 510 Kabuki Tank by House of Hybrids - Creme de Vape
Vika Fantasy - https://www.vikacig.com/fantasy
Coils (Aspire BVC 1.6 or 1.8)
Then while you are vaping and enjoying, keep watching videos on RTA builds and explore this forum. I highly recommend "Kayfun Prime". Building coils is quite easy actually and my builds last 2-3 weeks easily. You will need tools and wire. Coilmaster v3 is good and few spools of wire and cotton is quite cheap and will last a very very long time.
These will be good investments if you get into vaping and based on my experience you will probably stop looking for other vape gear and waste money on new/cheap gears. Here's my setup:
@tailland
Yup, guess that is what I have to do. Have combed the entire list of local vendors again but atomizers are not available in variety. Especially the ones that get recommended here. Got to take some calls and decide on a couple. Plus juice is going to be the real issue here, I possibly cannot stock up for years on juice
@Vik171
Other than the pico mod nothing else you have said is available locally. And importing is a fairly rough game out here given the climate for vaping. That is the entire issue - availability matching recommendations
Yup, guess that is what I have to do. Have combed the entire list of local vendors again but atomizers are not available in variety. Especially the ones that get recommended here. Got to take some calls and decide on a couple. Plus juice is going to be the real issue here, I possibly cannot stock up for years on juice
@Vik171
Other than the pico mod nothing else you have said is available locally. And importing is a fairly rough game out here given the climate for vaping. That is the entire issue - availability matching recommendations
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Look for a dedicated single coil rta. You only need a small pair of wire snips, tweezers, spool of wire, unbleached cotton or rayon, regulated mod with screen, small diameter screwdriver.
@Letitia
OK will do ! I can get the stuff that you want me to in terms of hardware.
An example of a single coil RTA is Digiflavour Pharaoh? I just saw it available locally and wanted to check if I am looking at the right thing !!
@tailland @Letitia @HazyShades @Baditude @stols001
And another update - vendors are scurrying out here as the order from the central government has reached the states. So half the sites are not accepting online payments as the intermediary has pulled their support for vaping related sites. Its chaos here. And the worst part - the order I made yesterday, the vendor is not picking my calls. So I have no idea if the shipment will arrive. I am on panic mode to get some atomizers but what do I do without a mod. Its funny actually
In view of the ban and hence the much needed juice conservation, I am thinking of buying an atlantis 2 tank. Pretty low wattage coils and tons of coil support. So just wanted to throw that out for comments. I am still planning to get the crown 3 but I thought it would be good to have some low wattage tank for my juice problem.
So those are the 2 tanks I am considering right now. Hopefully I can still get them before the ban stops everything
OK will do ! I can get the stuff that you want me to in terms of hardware.
An example of a single coil RTA is Digiflavour Pharaoh? I just saw it available locally and wanted to check if I am looking at the right thing !!
@tailland @Letitia @HazyShades @Baditude @stols001
And another update - vendors are scurrying out here as the order from the central government has reached the states. So half the sites are not accepting online payments as the intermediary has pulled their support for vaping related sites. Its chaos here. And the worst part - the order I made yesterday, the vendor is not picking my calls. So I have no idea if the shipment will arrive. I am on panic mode to get some atomizers but what do I do without a mod. Its funny actually
In view of the ban and hence the much needed juice conservation, I am thinking of buying an atlantis 2 tank. Pretty low wattage coils and tons of coil support. So just wanted to throw that out for comments. I am still planning to get the crown 3 but I thought it would be good to have some low wattage tank for my juice problem.
So those are the 2 tanks I am considering right now. Hopefully I can still get them before the ban stops everything
Let's hope and yes, I suppose a more juice conservation tank could be useful. They do make MTL single coil RTAs that might be worth considering, as yes, @Letitia is right, you CAN get a bunch of tools to build but you don't HAVE TO. Something like a coilmaster kit is nice to have, but not ultimately necessary. You can wrap around a screwdriver, and use steam-engine.org to estimate your resistance (it's a bit intimidating at first but gets easier to figure out) and you can check your resistance and build on a regulated mod, an ohm's reader is a nice luxury to have but not ultimately necessary. My favorite MTL RTA is a Siren V2. I run it with the airflow wide open and at around 11 watts with a 1.0ish coil, and the nice thing about it is it's a velocity deck, which is a pretty easy style to build on. You may actually find wicking to be harder than installing a coil there is a learning curve. There's also the Ares although I don't recommend them that much any more after my two broke in quick succession and etc.
If you do want to get a MTL tank, another option would be one of the many tanks that take the Joytech clr 1.0 coil. They would include the Ego Mega one, the Tron-S, the Totally Wicked Oddessy (this can be harder to find) but there is a huge thread on this coil here: eGo ONE tank series – CLR coil
It lists, in several places, the various tanks that accept the coil. I am mentioning it because of the fact that the coil drop ins are notch coils, and they can be rewicked and rebuilt many times so you'd really only need a few boxes of the coils to get you going if you are willing to rewick and recoil them, and it's easy enough that even I can do it. This coil also gets FANTASTIC flavor but it may be just what you need under your circumstances.
Good luck, I hope everything makes it.
Anna
If you do want to get a MTL tank, another option would be one of the many tanks that take the Joytech clr 1.0 coil. They would include the Ego Mega one, the Tron-S, the Totally Wicked Oddessy (this can be harder to find) but there is a huge thread on this coil here: eGo ONE tank series – CLR coil
It lists, in several places, the various tanks that accept the coil. I am mentioning it because of the fact that the coil drop ins are notch coils, and they can be rewicked and rebuilt many times so you'd really only need a few boxes of the coils to get you going if you are willing to rewick and recoil them, and it's easy enough that even I can do it. This coil also gets FANTASTIC flavor but it may be just what you need under your circumstances.
Good luck, I hope everything makes it.
Anna
Atlantis 2 is a good tank and they do have good coil options, flavor will be different so you may prefer one juice over another in it. Just buy a decent budget mod and don't worry about looks or tc options, your odds are good that any of them will work well in power mode.@Letitia
OK will do ! I can get the stuff that you want me to in terms of hardware.
An example of a single coil RTA is Digiflavour Pharaoh? I just saw it available locally and wanted to check if I am looking at the right thing !!
@tailland @Letitia @HazyShades @Baditude @stols001
And another update - vendors are scurrying out here as the order from the central government has reached the states. So half the sites are not accepting online payments as the intermediary has pulled their support for vaping related sites. Its chaos here. And the worst part - the order I made yesterday, the vendor is not picking my calls. So I have no idea if the shipment will arrive. I am on panic mode to get some atomizers but what do I do without a mod. Its funny actually
In view of the ban and hence the much needed juice conservation, I am thinking of buying an atlantis 2 tank. Pretty low wattage coils and tons of coil support. So just wanted to throw that out for comments. I am still planning to get the crown 3 but I thought it would be good to have some low wattage tank for my juice problem.
So those are the 2 tanks I am considering right now. Hopefully I can still get them before the ban stops everything
One thing to consider:
Many vaping products are not identifiable as such and it'll still be possible to order them, or make them yourself, without any authorities jumping in.
Propylene Glycole, Glycerine, and food flavorings will still be available in any quantity you desire. Same goes for cotton, wire, batteries, chargers. Even things like gaskets/o-rings replacement kits, or even DIY building kits, can't be identified easily as vaping-specific accessory, because they too only contain parts which could be used in any number of different circumstances.
When faced with an outright ban, I'd probably go for the most simple/rugged mod I can get, maybe even a mech mod with basic protection mechanisms, a couple of RBA/RTA tanks of the same model, two handfuls of replacement seal/o-ring bags, and an idea where to obtain highly concentrated nicotine liquid. Everything else can be improvised or will still be available later on.
Many vaping products are not identifiable as such and it'll still be possible to order them, or make them yourself, without any authorities jumping in.
Propylene Glycole, Glycerine, and food flavorings will still be available in any quantity you desire. Same goes for cotton, wire, batteries, chargers. Even things like gaskets/o-rings replacement kits, or even DIY building kits, can't be identified easily as vaping-specific accessory, because they too only contain parts which could be used in any number of different circumstances.
When faced with an outright ban, I'd probably go for the most simple/rugged mod I can get, maybe even a mech mod with basic protection mechanisms, a couple of RBA/RTA tanks of the same model, two handfuls of replacement seal/o-ring bags, and an idea where to obtain highly concentrated nicotine liquid. Everything else can be improvised or will still be available later on.
@stols001
They are all MTL RTAs right? So I guess their juice consumption would be low, so may serve me well in my current constraints ! Are there exclusive DTL RTAs or is that dependent on how I make coils and the power given? Just learning the basics
The clr 1.0 coil is super tempting but thats 467 pages ma'am !! So if I can summarize - its a coil which I can drop into a tank. Once the gunk sets in, remove the cotton and rewick it (Theoretically I know what all this is ) using something like Kendo Vape Cotton Gold Edition - VapeMantra
So I need to procure a bunch of these coils and an appropriate tank, correct?
Or I am way off mark?
And is this it - Authentic Joyetech Ego One CLR Coils (5pack)
It sounds easier than making coils at least !
@Letitia
Looks and TC are not under consideration also. I am just hoping the cylon reaches me. And I need to get some liquids for now. Maybe an RTA makes sense now, just want to get the essentials in. All my stuff is up in the air.
@tailland
I dont think I can research DIY liquids and buy right away as I already see sites pulling out stuff even from the DIY section. Stocking some coils and juices seem the viable option now.
I am afraid that you are relying on technicalities and I dont think I can "argue" my way out of getting a banned item on said technicalities - so while PG, VG and concentrates having nothing to do with nic, I am sure I am not going to find them that easy. Like I said, one site just removed cotton etc etc from their site. Its just the way things are - not entirely fielding logic
They are all MTL RTAs right? So I guess their juice consumption would be low, so may serve me well in my current constraints ! Are there exclusive DTL RTAs or is that dependent on how I make coils and the power given? Just learning the basics
The clr 1.0 coil is super tempting but thats 467 pages ma'am !! So if I can summarize - its a coil which I can drop into a tank. Once the gunk sets in, remove the cotton and rewick it (Theoretically I know what all this is
) using something like Kendo Vape Cotton Gold Edition - VapeMantraSo I need to procure a bunch of these coils and an appropriate tank, correct?
Or I am way off mark?
And is this it - Authentic Joyetech Ego One CLR Coils (5pack)
It sounds easier than making coils at least !
@Letitia
Looks and TC are not under consideration also. I am just hoping the cylon reaches me. And I need to get some liquids for now. Maybe an RTA makes sense now, just want to get the essentials in. All my stuff is up in the air.
@tailland
I dont think I can research DIY liquids and buy right away as I already see sites pulling out stuff even from the DIY section. Stocking some coils and juices seem the viable option now.
I am afraid that you are relying on technicalities and I dont think I can "argue" my way out of getting a banned item on said technicalities - so while PG, VG and concentrates having nothing to do with nic, I am sure I am not going to find them that easy. Like I said, one site just removed cotton etc etc from their site. Its just the way things are - not entirely fielding logic
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@Letitia
Other than cotton and wire, will this cover everything - Vandy Vape Essential DIY Tool Kit - VapeMantra ?
Other than cotton and wire, will this cover everything - Vandy Vape Essential DIY Tool Kit - VapeMantra ?
That tool kit has all the coil wrapping tools that are essential. I often suggest an ohm reader to measure the ohms of your handmade coils, but if your regulated mod has an ohm reader, you could use that in its place.
@Baditude
That site has an ohm reader too.
For wire is this ok - Vandy vape Clapton Wire Kanthal A1 - 10ft - VapeMantra
And for cotton - Demon Killer Muscle wicking Cotton - VapeMantra
Maybe this can be the stuff I buy now and slowly learn to do the actual stuff. Is that a good strategy?
That site has an ohm reader too.
For wire is this ok - Vandy vape Clapton Wire Kanthal A1 - 10ft - VapeMantra
And for cotton - Demon Killer Muscle wicking Cotton - VapeMantra
Maybe this can be the stuff I buy now and slowly learn to do the actual stuff. Is that a good strategy?
And by the way I managed to snag this - again left to the mercy of customs but it was too good to pass up !
https://www.heavengifts.com/product/Aspire-Atlantis-Mega-Tank-Kit-with-Sub-Ohm-Coil-5ml.html
https://www.heavengifts.com/product/Aspire-Atlantis-Mega-Tank-Kit-with-Sub-Ohm-Coil-5ml.html
I recommend not getting the Clapton wire at first. Using Clapton wire will result in coils with a lot of mass, requiring more battery power and a longer ramp up time to heat up the coil. And with more nooks and crannies in the Clapton wire, e-liquid will gunk up the coils much faster than using a plain round wire.
A better choice, IMHO, would be the simpler kanthal 26 gauge.
The organic cotton you linked to is appropriate.
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Yes, all the RTAs I mentioned are MTL. If you want something more DL I am not your gal for suggestions. I will say a RTA dedicated to MTL well the vape can be CHANGED a bit, in the sense that sure, you can put a lower resistance coil in there, maybe drill out some airholes and a different drip tip on there (possibly) but by the time you do that, well, you might as well get a dedicated sub0hm RTA if that is your TRUE desire. I mean... no point reinventing the wheel when there are perfectly good RTAs that are designed for sub0hm.
Yes, you can buy supplies now if you wish, and they can sit there until you are ready for them. I am not entirely certain if that's the wisest use of your funds since I'm thinking that probably importing such items is not going to be as much a red flag as say, and atomizer. But, I don't know that for certain, so....
The Joytech clr coils are the ones I was talking about, personally. I think (but oh, don't quote me) that they also make a 0.5 coil which may or may not be a temperature coil material, I'm not 100% sure.
My favorite tank for that coil is the Totally Wicked Oddessy tank, you can get one from buybest for like 36 dollars and no shipping (it's a China based site) which is totally reasonable for that tank, I've seen it ON SALE for like 54 bucks other places. The tron S and the Joytech Ego One Mega are also both PERFECTLY reasonable tanks I think and you can get them for a lot less. I will note that me, the joytech tanks, and that coil have had a very hard time getting along, I've had troubles getting them to read, although in retrospect, the ones I still have left had a much easier time making and staying connected than some of my initial tank choices in other words, it may have been the mods I chose and I will ALSO say that I still prefer the Oddessy tank it's just BETTER but also the joytech tanks are probably fine and I should also note, no one else on that thread has had ANYTHING near the difficulty *I* have had, and there are certain manufacturers who I don't get along with well and joytech is one such manufacturer, EXCEPT for that coil which I happen to LOVE. In my oddessy tank.
LOL good luck!
Anna
Yes, you can buy supplies now if you wish, and they can sit there until you are ready for them. I am not entirely certain if that's the wisest use of your funds since I'm thinking that probably importing such items is not going to be as much a red flag as say, and atomizer. But, I don't know that for certain, so....
The Joytech clr coils are the ones I was talking about, personally. I think (but oh, don't quote me) that they also make a 0.5 coil which may or may not be a temperature coil material, I'm not 100% sure.
My favorite tank for that coil is the Totally Wicked Oddessy tank, you can get one from buybest for like 36 dollars and no shipping (it's a China based site) which is totally reasonable for that tank, I've seen it ON SALE for like 54 bucks other places. The tron S and the Joytech Ego One Mega are also both PERFECTLY reasonable tanks I think and you can get them for a lot less. I will note that me, the joytech tanks, and that coil have had a very hard time getting along, I've had troubles getting them to read, although in retrospect, the ones I still have left had a much easier time making and staying connected than some of my initial tank choices in other words, it may have been the mods I chose and I will ALSO say that I still prefer the Oddessy tank it's just BETTER but also the joytech tanks are probably fine and I should also note, no one else on that thread has had ANYTHING near the difficulty *I* have had, and there are certain manufacturers who I don't get along with well and joytech is one such manufacturer, EXCEPT for that coil which I happen to LOVE. In my oddessy tank.
LOL good luck!
Anna
@Baditude
Thanks for the wire link, have wish listed it for now !
Also isnt coil jig a convenience for beginners?
Is this one - Kuro Concepts Self Coiling Tool Kit
@stols001
Sorry if I am repeating the question but is the link (Authentic Joyetech Ego One CLR Coils (5pack)) correct? I want to know if I am looking at the right product so that I can read up further on it.
And are these the tanks -
Buy EGo One V2 Mega Tank -4ml Online At GreenVapo
Joyetech Tron-S Atomizer
Thanks for the wire link, have wish listed it for now !
Also isnt coil jig a convenience for beginners?
Is this one - Kuro Concepts Self Coiling Tool Kit
@stols001
Sorry if I am repeating the question but is the link (Authentic Joyetech Ego One CLR Coils (5pack)) correct? I want to know if I am looking at the right product so that I can read up further on it.
And are these the tanks -
Buy EGo One V2 Mega Tank -4ml Online At GreenVapo
Joyetech Tron-S Atomizer
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A coil jig is a worthwile convenience. I've used both precision screwdrivers and a coil jig to wrap wire, and a jig does make coil wrapping a breeze and increases the likelihood of making a perfect coil. But, its not necessary. Both methods have a learning curve.
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