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You are not grating and the questions aren't a bother. Just wish you could relax and simply enjoy your vape. Kudos for no smokes, not easy even with vape in hand.@Letitia
Thanks, I know I am bordering on the grating, so will shut it and keep experimenting !!
Did not want to slap something bad on the batteries, hence the label concerns ! All is well for now.
My reborn has been born and it is bearing the atlantis 2 tank now !
See where I have come, astonishing really.
And no ciggies in the last 2 days at all
@Letitia
I, definitely am relaxed and am quite thrilled. I am taking a friend along with me on the journey and things look like it’s working for her too! Don’t infer agitated from my infinite questions, I’m truly enjoying the vaping especially the RTA while honestly trying to incorporate all your advice, it’s fun!
Imagine 3 weeks before - me a fledgling and now I’m building coils for my RTA passing judgement on flavours et al!!! Totally fun ride
I, definitely am relaxed and am quite thrilled. I am taking a friend along with me on the journey and things look like it’s working for her too! Don’t infer agitated from my infinite questions, I’m truly enjoying the vaping especially the RTA while honestly trying to incorporate all your advice, it’s fun!
Imagine 3 weeks before - me a fledgling and now I’m building coils for my RTA passing judgement on flavours et al!!! Totally fun ride
@HazyShades @Letitia @tailland @Baditude @stols001
Tales of an tyro coil builder:
So today I decided to embark on my first coil building exercise. I assembled all the stuff I needed from memory (I think I have watched a gazillion YT videos on coil building, so I went impromptu !!) and I was shooting for a resistance of 1 ohm. Conservative and hopeful.
First coil went to the trash right away, it was all mangled and to twisted to straighten. After all I did have 30 feet in 26g Kanthal, so decided to take another one.
This time around everything went well and I thought I got a 7 wrap coil (it was impossible to count, it was like some illusion always giving me a different result, gave up immediately!)
I then went straight to the 512 mini v2 with the deck in it. Installing was a total pain - working with things at mm range is not easy. At least not as easy as it seems on YT. Anyway after much wrangling I got the coil installed onto the Intake.
The first problem was faced here - the posts are so far apart that 7 wraps is not really enough, the last wrap on each end kinds of stretched slightly into the post. It basically enters the post at an angle and there is nothing much I can do about that. I remember that on some of the Intake videos that I saw the were using Fused Claptons, alien etc which was fat and the leads went straight into the post. I suppose this is normal. With the coil master rod, I kind of positioned the coil slightly above the air flow and made it as even as I could, not easy people
Second problem : the meter read 1.24 ohms
Next to the wicking and this is truly ghastly work!! Everything was cool until I was trying to follow the Intake wicking style which wanted the cotton just inside the hole but not protruding. After a lot of snipping with cotton bits flying all around me (man, one wicking wastes so much cotton, there must be a more efficient way!) I thought I got it down as best as I could. Juiced it up. Fired again. All looked well.
My aim was to vape at around 20W but I wanted to go up from 10 in steps of 2, like advised. I gave it some empty drags (without pressing fire) and I got so much juice in my mouth. Gave that up and started at 10, continued up the way to 20. It was spitting here and there now but after around 10 drags all was well. No spitting. No burnt tongues (!!).
So is that spitting normal? Is that related directly to wicking? Not one dry hit yet though, so it cannot be all bad
One thing - I used the same liquid as I did on the Atlantis 2 and I can say with certainty that the flavour was more pronounced on the Intake. Strawberries and cream (aka Unicorn Milk) tasted better on my single coil RTA than on the Atlantis 2. Go figure
Anything to comment, opine, scold, advice - fire away, ladies and gentlemen
PS : Yes, I tend to like to write a lot. Apologies for the loooong ramble. Should I start using TL
Ha-Ha-Ha...I'm not as nice as Letitia, ETC...ready for some tough love, Anantha?
Be confident, Bro. You did well for a virgin..
Next time make your coil leads longer then AFTER you install the coil, cut the spare wire.
your kit should have a cutter, us poor folk (me) use toe nail clippers.
Don't put so much juice on your wick, just a little saturation will do, and as Letitia said,
you need not pre-suck as with a ready made coilhead.
Wrapping batteries? If there's no need there's no need..but you might want to wrap a married pair
and call one Frank and the other Zappa, a threesome like in a Wismec R200 you could call, Electric, Aunt, Jemima.
Or maybe honor the Zappa kids..Name one battery Dweezil and the other Moon Unit..
But again, I know nothing...so ignore my rambling and ask an expert... there are many here
Finally, there is a difference between being cautious and being paranoid. Take your pick.
Be sure to try Maple syrup juice.
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@HazyShades
Always welcome sir, criticism in any form will not offend me - tough love or otherwise
I did cut the spare wire AFTER install. The problem was that the length of the coil did not match the length between the posts and hence the ends of the coil had to stretch into the post at an angle in order to be tightened. If I wrap the full length then I am certain that the resistance would hit 2 ohms
I did over prime, I guess. Too many videos and too much tutorial hunting I suppose. But lesson learnt!
That is the idea - to honor Zappa. But I am just going to slap the labels on the batteries as is and label them. No wrapping for me just yet. These are anyway brand new batteries, so I suppose wrapping can wait !
Being cautious, that is the attempt at least. I am certainly nor paranoid despite me coming off that way, that I assure you. Its actually quite fun! And I am enjoying this process as a whole, so that sits right with me !
I got one question again - while we build our own coil and wick it, is there a difference in indication as to when the cotton as opposed to the entire coil needs a change? Usually in drop ins, a burnt taste indicates a time for a new coil. How does that translate in the RTA world?
Always welcome sir, criticism in any form will not offend me - tough love or otherwise
I did cut the spare wire AFTER install. The problem was that the length of the coil did not match the length between the posts and hence the ends of the coil had to stretch into the post at an angle in order to be tightened. If I wrap the full length then I am certain that the resistance would hit 2 ohms
I did over prime, I guess. Too many videos and too much tutorial hunting I suppose. But lesson learnt!
That is the idea - to honor Zappa. But I am just going to slap the labels on the batteries as is and label them. No wrapping for me just yet. These are anyway brand new batteries, so I suppose wrapping can wait !
Being cautious, that is the attempt at least. I am certainly nor paranoid despite me coming off that way, that I assure you. Its actually quite fun! And I am enjoying this process as a whole, so that sits right with me !
I got one question again - while we build our own coil and wick it, is there a difference in indication as to when the cotton as opposed to the entire coil needs a change? Usually in drop ins, a burnt taste indicates a time for a new coil. How does that translate in the RTA world?
Yup. Same. Burnt taste, change in coil resistance.
But you can usually dry burn the crap off the coil several times b4 it needs to be replaced. (Remove the wasted wick, hit the fire button until the wickless coil is cherry red a few times, let cool, install new wick.)
Dark juice will mess up your wick/coil faster. Sweet juice will mess up the coil fast because it will caramelize
and interfere with heat dispersal as well as resistance.
As for the coil width matching the distance between posts..There is nothing wrong with spread out leads but you can always increase the space between turns a bit.
When taste is off rewick. It really is just that simple. I dry burn every wick change. Just pulse coil at a lower wattage until gunk is gone, I only fire until dull red. Any more than that is overkill imo and shortens the life of the coil. By all means try more wraps but they aren't needed, coil legs spread is fine.
@HazyShades @Letitia
Thanks for the clarification. For my ammit 25 coil build I will try out the spaced stuff and see how that goes!
You guys preempted the question - "what is dry burning?" - kudos on that and once again thanks for the in depth explanation !
Right now most of my juices are sweet or dark but I guess given the clime that was the best I could do. No problem dry burning and rewicking though, so that is indeed good. I think soon I will only have the RTAs as my daily vape devices itself
Thanks for the clarification. For my ammit 25 coil build I will try out the spaced stuff and see how that goes!
You guys preempted the question - "what is dry burning?" - kudos on that and once again thanks for the in depth explanation !
Right now most of my juices are sweet or dark
but I guess given the clime that was the best I could do. No problem dry burning and rewicking though, so that is indeed good. I think soon I will only have the RTAs as my daily vape devices itself Some folks find the mad love for the rebuildables and that is all they use, and some like both, I am in the latter camp.
If you are using any other wire than kanthal or nichrome, well, it's arguable (definitely Titanium or nickel but potentially arguably with SS, to a lesser degree) you just may want to be judicious in your dry burning as they all (to varying degrees I think SS is the safest) can give off some not so great byproducts when dry burned. I clean my coil (like, scrub it with a toothbrush) then gently pulse it without letting it get to white hot levels, and then I swab around and inside the coil with q-tips dipped in alcohol and then gently pulse it again. Arguably, I'd say I may wind up with a cleaner coil/deck than just dry burning all on its own. You may find it worthwhile to do that.
Coil changes for me come (unless they come from unfortunate events) when I just feel like the coil is no longer performing as well, somehow, with a fresh wick. I realize this is highly subjective, but that is the only way I know how to change my coil (other than, I've done something dreadful to the coil itself).
Good luck and continued happy vaping!
Anna
If you are using any other wire than kanthal or nichrome, well, it's arguable (definitely Titanium or nickel but potentially arguably with SS, to a lesser degree) you just may want to be judicious in your dry burning as they all (to varying degrees I think SS is the safest) can give off some not so great byproducts when dry burned. I clean my coil (like, scrub it with a toothbrush) then gently pulse it without letting it get to white hot levels, and then I swab around and inside the coil with q-tips dipped in alcohol and then gently pulse it again. Arguably, I'd say I may wind up with a cleaner coil/deck than just dry burning all on its own. You may find it worthwhile to do that.
Coil changes for me come (unless they come from unfortunate events) when I just feel like the coil is no longer performing as well, somehow, with a fresh wick. I realize this is highly subjective, but that is the only way I know how to change my coil (other than, I've done something dreadful to the coil itself).
Good luck and continued happy vaping!
Anna
@stols001
Chalk that up to my excitement with the RTAs. I know I am far below the level of being a flavour chaser but one cannot deny what one tastes
I think I will be sticking to kanthal in the near future to be honest. Guess this is going to be my gear for some time at the least, I have done quite a bit of buying, so I should rein in the temptation and avoid further wallet burns !! I can definitely treat the coils up to the point of toothbrush but alcohol - I dont think I can get my hands on that yet. Even on some cleaning videos, I did see they asked to use grain alcohol, no such thing available here!! So I am not sure if I can lay my hands on coil-cleaning-worthy alcohol (and one does not want to spend single malts on this right?!?! )
On this subject - given that with kanthal 26g I am not going to get anywhere near sub ohms on this tank, the only way I guess I can get to 0.5 ohms realistically is by using "fatter" wire right?
Thanks again for the useful information !
Chalk that up to my excitement with the RTAs. I know I am far below the level of being a flavour chaser but one cannot deny what one tastes
I think I will be sticking to kanthal in the near future to be honest. Guess this is going to be my gear for some time at the least, I have done quite a bit of buying, so I should rein in the temptation and avoid further wallet burns !! I can definitely treat the coils up to the point of toothbrush but alcohol - I dont think I can get my hands on that yet. Even on some cleaning videos, I did see they asked to use grain alcohol, no such thing available here!! So I am not sure if I can lay my hands on coil-cleaning-worthy alcohol (and one does not want to spend single malts on this right?!?!
)On this subject - given that with kanthal 26g I am not going to get anywhere near sub ohms on this tank, the only way I guess I can get to 0.5 ohms realistically is by using "fatter" wire right?
Thanks again for the useful information !
Did you look in the liquor store? Google shows several online liquor stores in India where you can indeed get grain alcohol.
Vodka, rum, fire water, Everclear, PGA... any high proof, clear drinkable ethanol will work.
Don't concern yourself too much about taste as alcohol evaporates completely and you rinse in water anyway.
Do not use methanol or isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol.
I've made herbal extractions using vodka but Everclear or any good PGA (pure grain alcohol) if you can get it is better than Vodka because the latter does impart a taste..but for cleaning gunk off of coils it will do fine
On this subject - given that with kanthal 26g I am not going to get anywhere near sub ohms on this tank, the only way I guess I can get to 0.5 ohms realistically is by using "fatter" wire right?
Thanks again for the useful information ![/QUOTE]
Try a 5 wrap spaced coil. Twist 2 or 3 lengths of the 26g, you'll love it, very flavorful.
Thanks again for the useful information ![/QUOTE]
Try a 5 wrap spaced coil. Twist 2 or 3 lengths of the 26g, you'll love it, very flavorful.
@HazyShades
Vodka I can get. But when I searched for everclear / grain alcohol, I saw this
https://www.quora.com/Where-is-everclear-available-in-India-and-what-may-be-its-price
By any chance does this meet the requirements:
https://www.amazon.in/Manosol-Perfu...&qid=1536437577&sr=1-2&keywords=ethyl+alcohol
@Letitia
Really? I can try and do some space coils but what does the below mean?
Vodka I can get. But when I searched for everclear / grain alcohol, I saw this
https://www.quora.com/Where-is-everclear-available-in-India-and-what-may-be-its-price
By any chance does this meet the requirements:
https://www.amazon.in/Manosol-Perfu...&qid=1536437577&sr=1-2&keywords=ethyl+alcohol
@Letitia
Really? I can try and do some space coils but what does the below mean?
@Letitia
Somewhere in the corner of your mind you would probably have guessed my response. No drill! I saw both the videos, looks like the drill is an integral pre-requisite! Need to shop.... again!
Somewhere in the corner of your mind you would probably have guessed my response. No drill! I saw both the videos, looks like the drill is an integral pre-requisite! Need to shop.... again!
No you don't need the drill, I posted the wrong videos. It's been a long time since I watched them. Ink pen clip and pliers are all you need. Actually a nail in a board is good too.
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