Hello

[BassMonkey]

Alright then here is my plan

MadVapes-510-Ego-Kit-with-Carrying-Case
Refillable-510-Cartomizers - Made by BogeTech
Damn just saw that those are sold out and Liberty-Flights is sold out as well.

So as I understand it so far, it is a 3 piece setup (battery, atomizer, cartridge).
Where as a 3 piece system is the battery and cartomizer ?

If I went with refillable, I take it there are additional items needed ? like a syringe at least ?

What I am unclear about is the dripping. I imagine it means dripping juice into the e-cig as you vape. Which would make sense that it's not for driving. For driving one could use the carts? correct ? or a usb passthru ?

Polar Bear

Here try these carto's grab like 3 of them and you'll be good. They carry more juice and you wont have to refill as much. eGo Mega Dual Coil Cartomizer Flat-Tip I actually grabbed these the other day to see what carto's are all about.

If you wanna drip here is a good one. http://shop.cherryvape.com/The-Cannon-306-Set-New-Lower-Price-0030.htm It has THE drip tip for dripping and the lr306 it will also fit your new ego But you can drip with out it just take the foam out of the cartridges that come with your kit, drip right on the atty, throw your cartridge back on and vape. Make sure you drip and let it sit for 30sec the first time you use it.

-Monkey

 

[Maximillian]

I'm starting to feel a bit for ya Polar Bear.

5 of us trying to "simplify" things for ya. And I'm definately included in the "us".


Happy hunting,
Maximillian the Vaguely Disreputable

 

[Polar Bear]

From what I've read the LR's (2.0 or less ohm's) is a bit more harsh, not recommended for fruit juices and is bad on batteries. Is this true ?

 

[BassMonkey]

I'm starting to feel a bit for ya Polar Bear.

5 of us trying to "simplify" things for ya. And I'm definately included in the "us".


Happy hunting,
Maximillian the Vaguely Disreputable

Right? Thats why I started posting links for products and videos. At least he's getting a lot of support here. Thats what I love about this place. If for some reason you don't have the support at home for getting rid of analogs, you still have ecf. Damn you know what I think I'm gonna be a supporting member as soon as my check get put in my acct.

-Monkey

 

[sonicdsl]

It depends on the battery used (volt).

Go to this site for some great info on this world: Vaping Guides to the Electronic Cigarette Written by a highly regarded member here and has a wealth of great info - blog style.

As far as volts/ohms, etc. this page is where I learned the best tips on what it all means: FAQ: What are these HV and LR attys? Do I need them? Are they safe to use? | Vaping Guides to the Electronic Cigarette

 

[Michael Curry]

From what I've read the LR's (2.0 or less ohm's) is a bit more harsh, not recommended for fruit juices and is bad on batteries. Is this true ?

The LR's are 'hotter'. You have the same voltage going through a lower resistance, so the coil will heat up more. It will also deplete a battery's charge faster. If it's an eGo class battery or above though, it won't do it any harm.

Some people really like the hotter vape. I find that I like it on light tobacco flavors, not so much on fruit, not at all on desert flavors. But that is pretty much a personal preference thing.

 

[Katya]

From what I've read the LR's (2.0 or less ohm's) is a bit more harsh, not recommended for fruit juices and is bad on batteries. Is this true ?

Yes and no.

Long story. Are you familiar with the Ohm's Law? It's all about Wattage (heat, power) generated by your PV. Wattage equals Voltage squared divided by resistance. The more heat, the hotter the vape. However, with the eGos and Rivas delivering no more than 3.7v, you're safe with 2.0Ω cartomizers.

If you want a cooler vape, you can try LF's new mega Ego Smoktech single coil cartos (2.5Ω), 3 ml capacity, or their 2.7-3.0Ω Boge 510 cartos.

Keep it simple at the beginning. Trust me.

 

[BassMonkey]

From what I've read the LR's (2.0 or less ohm's) is a bit more harsh, not recommended for fruit juices and is bad on batteries. Is this true ?

To tell you the truth all I have used is cartridges(different from carto) and lr306 atomizers for dripping. I think you taste the juice more from dripping. LR's are definitely give a harder throat hit, but that's what I was looking for(I felt like I needed the throat hit so it would resemble a real cig as much as possible). Personally I smoked Marlboro lights and the throat it really depends on how much you inhale it. As far as the ohms the ones that come with the cherryvape link I posted are 2.0 or 2.5 ohm which is what I'm using now.

The batteries part won't really be a problem for you either since you have the 900mah 3.7v batt. but I would stay above the 2.0 ohm lr's just to be on the safe side(also what I do now).

 

[Polar Bear]

I find that I like it on light tobacco flavors, not so much on fruit, not at all on desert flavors. But that is pretty much a personal preference thing.

That is what I've been reading and since I believe I will be leaning towards non-tobacco flavors (just a guess) this concerns me a little.

 

[Michael Curry]

The up side of cartomizers being a limited lifespan item ( I hesitate to use the term 'disposable' since they are refillable until they are 'worn out' ) is that you aren't really locked in to any one type.

I just counted - I currently have 7 different varieties of cartomizers on my desk right now. The majority are Boge, and all of the newer ones are Boge... So what this tell me is two things. 1) I like Boge, a lot. 2) I really need to clear my desk a bit.

Don't be afraid to experiment a bit with both juice and cartomizers. You'll eventually settle in to your sweet spot.

 

[Polar Bear]

LR's are definitely give a harder throat hit, but that's what I was looking for(I felt like I needed the throat hit so it would resemble a real cig as much as possible).

I'm not sure about this part yet, Mostly I was believing that I would need the nicotine to be adequate first. Thinking that is what will help get me off analogs.

The batteries part won't really be a problem for you either since you have the 900mah 3.7v batt. but I would stay above the 2.0 ohm lr's just to be on the safe side(also what I do now).

Interesting that the madvapes kit has:
2 Black eGo 900mah batteries with blue LED

while the liberty-flights kit has:
2 x manual eGo 650mAh batteries

Sadly it is liberty-flights that has a 20% discount

Polar Bear

 

[Katya]

What he (Michael) said, Brother Bear!

Don't overthink it! Trial and error.

That's why I suggested different cartos in my previous posts.

Good luck!

Anyway, my recommendation stands...

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/232866-hello-4.html#post4391456

Good night and good luck!

 

[Michael Curry]

Oh it gets worse... There is another eGo-T battery available that's 1000mAh and has a passthrough built in. lol

Choices abound....

Actually, that's my choice for my backup. I keep the USB passthrough wire in the console of the car and the battery is in my case, so I am not stuck if the unthinkable should happen and I somehow manage to run through the battery in my PV, plus the spare.

I'm not paranoid.... I swear... Well, maybe a little.

Either of those in your post will do you well. My first eGo kit was a pair of 650 mAh batteries. Then I succumbed to Tim Taylor syndrome and had to get more power.

 

[Kazoo]

Hey Polar Bear, from one noobie to another, WELCOME!!!

Your getting some great advice from all of these wonderful folks at ECF!

I would definitely recommend going with an eGo/Riva battery first. Since you've already tried the basic stuff and your interested. I would save your money by not getting a Cigarette look a like. I got a blu kit and a 510 kit. Blu kits are mini 510s I believe. I gave the blu away and use the 510 as a spare. I mostly just use my Inferno (ego/riva clone from volcanoecigs.com) battery and it lasts all day.

The battery is a big choice, but IMO, the biggest choice is what kind of vaping method to use. I do suggest trying each method. Expect to lay down some cash at first to find your groove. Figure you'll spend what you normally spent on regular cigarettes the first two months. After that it should get a lot cheaper!

Dripping and Tanks are easy, they are all the same, its once you get down to cartomizers that the fun REALLY begins.
I have tried a few brands so far, mostly clear style cartomizers. I used Volcano's, which are good. Not great though.
Now I'm trying Microcig CE2 and CE3 Ultimate clearomizers. I'm loving the CE3 but they do seem to leak a little.
The CE2 clearomizers are about the same as Volcano's a bit better wick though.
I've also used some regular polyfill cartomizers and they were ok, but honestly it tasted a bit like cotton filler to me. Could have just been that brand though.

I like the style of the clearomizers, no polyfill, just a tank and a wick. They have a good throat hit and the flavor production is nice.

My next stop is to try out those Boge 2.0s everyone is ranting about here. I'm on a serious mission to find the perfect setup for me.

Juice is another big thing, it is 100% personal. So get a TON of sample sizes and don't order anything over 15ml until you've tried at least 8 different juices from 4 different juice makers. I ordered 4 30ml bottles of Volcano juice and now that I'm trying sample sizes from other places I realize I really don't like the Volcano juice all that much. Now I'm kind of stuck with 4 almost full bottles of juice. I just gave one to my buddy tonight even lol.

Any who, no more ranting from me lol. Hope you find your groove dude!
Enjoy the adventure that is vaping!

 

[BassMonkey]

I'm not sure about this part yet, Mostly I was believing that I would need the nicotine to be adequate first. Thinking that is what will help get me off analogs.

Yeah throat hit was a major thing for me when I started. But nicotine was pretty easy since I was able to try a few where I bought my PV. Depending on what you smoked I would start semi high on the mg and work your way down.

Interesting that the madvapes kit has:
2 Black eGo 900mah batteries with blue LED

while the liberty-flights kit has:
2 x manual eGo 650mAh batteries

Sadly it is liberty-flights that has a 20% discount

Polar Bear

Very true about the discount. Did some math for ya and it seems that you would be paying $40(9.98 off) for a kit at L.F. on the other hand Madvapes you pay $50 and get 2x900mah ego batt's(which is a $37.98 value at 18.99 a piece and a ego case with a value of 10.99).

Then again I think the 650mah that comes with the L.F. kit is adequate. Here how my rundown goes for the batteries. Morning fresh batt. Midnight ish it dies and I switch to fresh and charge the dead. Then the new one lasts till midnight again.

ehh if those are your 2 choices might as well get the L.F. Probably gonna need the extra cash for juice to find your nic level of choice. I do recommend getting a few of these though eGo Mega Dual Coil Cartomizer Flat-Tip Since when you buy your kit you'll already be able to try dripping or using the cartridge, this will give you the other popular choice for vaping which is using cartomizers. These ones supposedly hold 5ml of juice(although test from forum members say its about 3.5-4ml.

 

[Michael Curry]

hmmm.... Can't argue with the logic on saving the money on the kit and putting it in the juice fund, but....

I didn't really look at the prices that close nor did I do the math. The difference is 10 bucks? And the case comes with it? I think I would be snapping up that one. The extra battery capacity is nice and probably well worth the added cost - I kicked myself several times for not taking the upgrade batteries when I bought mine. Yes, teh 650's were good, but...

To me, the case seals the deal, IMHO. I bought mine separate. An extra battery, a few carto's and some juice... Gets a bit inconvenient stuffed in your pocket. If it's the regular eGo case - it looks like a sunglasses case, and you can really get a lot of support gear in it.

 

[Balthezar]

Oh it gets worse...


I'm not paranoid.... I swear... Well, maybe a little.

LOL I'm looking at the ego passthrough myself. I sit at my comp all day, so why have to keep charging my 510?

 

[Polar Bear]

Your getting some great advice from all of these wonderful folks at ECF!

I absolutely am

 

[Katya]

hmmm.... Can't argue with the logic on saving the money on the kit and putting it in the juice fund, but....

I didn't really look at the prices that close nor did I do the math. The difference is 10 bucks? And the case comes with it? I think I would be snapping up that one. The extra battery capacity is nice and probably well worth the added cost - I kicked myself several times for not taking the upgrade batteries when I bought mine. Yes, teh 650's were good, but...

To me, the case seals the deal, IMHO. I bought mine separate. An extra battery, a few carto's and some juice... Gets a bit inconvenient stuffed in your pocket. If it's the regular eGo case - it looks like a sunglasses case, and you can really get a lot of support gear in it.

LF Riva Carto Deluxe kit is 35 bucks and includes a box of cartos and a carrying case (same as eGo). The Riva Lite bundle is $30 and includes atomizers and a mains wall adapter. And the batteries are 3.7v.

That's a much better deal, IMO, especially for someone who's just trying stuff out. He can always add a 900 mAh eGo later on, if he likes the setup.

 

[Polar Bear]

OK I think I am squared away with the delivery system, at least enough as a starting point.

So now I am looking at the juices and taking the advice of only getting 5ml sample sizes.

But first PG ? VG ?

Also, what is a good (average) price for say 5ml ? so I know if I am shopping at the right store.
I started cart'ing (putting in shopping cart) a number of juices that I like to eat haha yes flavors I like to eat but have no idea if that will translate into a flavor I want to vape.

OH and I was thinking of starting out with 24mg nico.

Polar Bear