Hello

[Flaguy50]

Do you feel the same way when you've vaped the 0mg stuff?

Your symptoms do sound like too much nicotine, but with 0-3mg that shouldn't really be the problem.

What coils/heads are you using, and what power/temperature are you running them at?

It does sound like you've been soaked on the cost of your gear - those juice prices are a total ripoff...

Sorry to hear your problems @Flaguy50, but as others have stated, not sure why you might be experiencing those symptoms. One of my first thoughts was level of nic, but that should not be a problem. As far a ceramic coils, I tried them once and didn't care for them, so that is not in my realm of knowledge. You might try a kanthal coil maybe at higher ohms.

One thing that did come to mind is how I started. I tried to vape like I smoked, light one up and take upwards of 15 or more hits in about 5 minutes. While it did not give me any of the symptoms you describe, I found it not to be very enjoyable. I soon learned to spread out those 15 hits over an hour or so and have stayed with that since and find it very satisfying. So you might try taking a hit or two at a time and then picking it up again when you feel the urge.

And one last "food for thought", do not disregard the possibility that it is something unrelated to vaping that something in your vape or how you vape is bringing to the forefront. While "20 years smoking" does not indicate you are old, you clearly are no longer "a kid". A visit with your health care provider would not be unreasonable.

Good luck and hope you get it figured out.

Thanks for that opinion , as I said above I just had my yearly phyical a few weeks back and I'm good
I'm wondering maybe it possible I'm just allergic or having an overall allergic reaction to this stuff and it's not for me is that possible ?
Has anyone ever heard of that ?
Is it possible to just be allergic ? To the point that vaping just isn't an Option for me ?

 

[WillyZee]

stop into a vape shop and see if they can determine if your setup is working proper ... what you describe is not the norm.

something is off.

 

[Continuity]

I've never heard of anyone reacting to vaping in the manner you've described unless it's been because of too high a nicotine level, which is unlikely in your case.

And please don't 'throw your setup in the trash' if you decide to give up on vaping - pass it forwards to another smoker and maybe save their lives, or at least sell it to a co-worker or a relative for a decent price.

I would seriously keep at it and use a process of elimination to work out just what's going on - start vaping some unflavoured 0mg nicotine high VG juice, and when/if that's OK, then maybe switch to unflavoured 3mg high-VG juice and after that, maybe add more PG and so on, until you discover exactly what is causing the problem.

The problem, even though it sounds like too much nicotine, *may* be a PG sensitivity, or maybe you're sensitive to one of the ingredients in the flavourings.

How many flavourings have you tried, and if more than one, did they all affect you in this way?

It could also be completely psychosomatic (but no less real) or a reaction to quitting tobacco.

 

[OlderNDirt]

Is it possible to just be allergic ? To the point that vaping just isn't an Option for me ?

It would be possible to have an allergic reaction to something, but unless you have a prior history of an allergy to something specific, it seems unlikely to me (and I am not a health professional!) that you would have stumbled onto a new found allergy.

But if you are zeroing in on your issue being allergy related, a few thing you can do to "troubleshoot"......

Try a different brand of juice with max VG, change to a kanthal coil, and go with totally different flavorings. And try not to chain vape while trying that. If symptoms go away, you can narrow each one of those areas down until you find "the culprit." If not, the only thing left would be the gear. Other then that, I have no idea. Then again, I just had a thought.......

When you started 9 days ago, did the shop fill the tank or did you buy it and set it up yourself? I presume you are on the original ceramic coil, right? As I mentioned earlier, I now next to nothing about ceramic coils, if they need primed, is there a "break in" procedure, can they give a burnt or charred vape? That and if possibly a hint of machine oil remaining in the tank if it wasn't cleaned before setting up? Just some idea/possibilities.

Heading out for a few hours, but will check back when I return.

 

[BoogaWu]

I wonder if you are vaping your ceramic coils in power mode instead of TC? I would imagine that could give you fits.

 

[Flaguy50]

Well I have tried 4 different juices all different makers , 1 of which really bothered me a lot with the headaches and lightheadedness , another gave me really bad chest pains and tightness , however I will say maybe I am over doing it as a newbie , because it tasted so sweet maybe I was just over vaping and these symptoms are a result , perhaps I will try the process of elimination , however I hate to keep dropping $22-$30 bucks a bottle and keep finding I'm having problems from each so far I only been at this 9 days and have already dropped over $100 on juices
Very discouraging I hate wasting $$ on things I can't use . A few buddies advised stay away from the cheap stuff , I don't know it's all a bit discouraging , it's like I'm spending $$ to deliberately make myself feel lousy . I seriously feel like a lab rat

 

[Continuity]

You're paying *far* too much for ejuice, especially if you're in the US - you can get decent juices for much more reasonable prices than what you've been paying.

As BoogaWu asked - are you sure you're running those coils in the right mode?

 

[OlderNDirt]

I wonder if you are vaping your ceramic coils in power mode instead of TC? I would imagine that could give you fits.

OK, now I am confused. I tried ceramic coils in my Subtank Mini and MVS said they are designed for power mode at 35-60 watts. Are they all supposed to be run in TC or does it depend on the tank used?

 

[BoogaWu]

Some coils are nickel, some are kanthal. Kanthal are ok in power.

 

[OlderNDirt]

Some coils are nickel, some are kanthal. Kanthal are ok in power.

Thanks! Another day, another lesson. Not sure I will venture into the realm of ceramic coils, but will have to pay better attention if I do.

 

[Flaguy50]

You're paying *far* too much for ejuice, especially if you're in the US - you can get decent juices for much more reasonable prices than what you've been paying.

As BoogaWu asked - are you sure you're running those coils in the right mode?

Most of the retailers around my area
That's what the e juice costs
I agree pretty pricey especially for the premium stuff . As for the coils the guy at the the store set it up for me I'd like to think he knows what he's doing plus I did read the instruction book that was in the box so yeah I think it's set up correctly .

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Have you increased your liquid intake? Sounds to me like you may be dehydrated. Vaping does dry out mouth, nose and throat. And this is serious. You must keep yourself hydrated at all times or you will have headaches and aches and pains.
You are starting out with some good equipment so with what you say you are experiencing start with drinking lots of water or your fav liquid.
Let us know.
Oh, and welcome to ecf.

 

[Flaguy50]

Have you increased your liquid intake? Sounds to me like you may be dehydrated. Vaping does dry out mouth, nose and throat. And this is serious. You must keep yourself hydrated at all times or you will have headaches and aches and pains.
You are starting out with some good equipment so with what you say you are experiencing start with drinking lots of water or your fav liquid.
Let us know.
Oh, and welcome to ecf.

Yes I was advised about the need for higher fluid intake by the guy at the store , as far as vaping , ummm I'm kinda using it as I would a reg cig , when I feel the need I hit it a few times and then put it down ,
The hole thing like really bothers me because I honestly wanted to give this a go , but if I'm gonna keep getting bad headaches , burning tight chest pains and feeling light headed , not exactly sure it's worth it . I deal with a lot of people a day and it's not easy when I'm not feeling 100%

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Maybe instead of inhaling, just draw into your mouth and hold. Most of the nicotine is absorbed thru the mouth and nose anyway with very little nic getting to your lungs. Try that, see if that helps. If it does, then the cartomizer in your tank may be too powerful and you need to have more of a resistance to hit it directly into your lungs. Sometimes the higher powered, lower resistance tanks(heads really) can be too much for any vaper, especially someone just starting out. I would go back to the shop where you purchased and talk to them some more. Another poster ask about pg/vg. It could be you just cannot tolerate one or the other. Sounds like your vape shop can work with you better since its is face to face. Its kind of hard online. And please don't throw your vape stuff away. There is a place to sell it here on ecf so you could at least get some of your investment back it this doesn't work out for you.

 

[Flaguy50]

Yeah I'm gonna go and talk to the guy this weekend before I continue this venture , I hate to just give up trying without knowing the exact reason why this isn't working out and why it's causing me so many problems , if i am allergic to something in this product , ok I can accept that I will give up vaping and move on . With the oh well at least I gave it a go attitude and it didn't work out . But I at least gotta figure out why this is happening , I haven't vaped in 4 days now , went back to smoking oddly enough no head aches , no burning chest pains , no light headedness .

 

[WillyZee]

Good luck Flaguy50 ... I hope you get this sorted out.


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[Continuity]

I'm leaning towards thinking it sounds like either, or a combination of, psychosomatic symptoms and the withdrawal from tobacco smoke.

I mean it *sounds* like straight-up nicotine overdose combined with too-high PG vaped with a too-powerful kit - but from what the OP has written of their juice choices, their equipment, and their smoking history it just doesn't seem that likely in this case.

The only way to figure this out is to do a process of elimination as I described in one of my above posts.

NB that I am *in no way* a medical professional for *anyone anywhere*, and am certainly not the OPs doctor.

 

[Flaguy50]

Well as I posted above I just recently did my yearly phyical several weeks ago and all was good , what is going on here with this vaping thing I'm not sure , I'm strongly consider making a doc appointment and speaking to him about the symptoms etc ,
And of course pending what he says will determine weather I do this vaping thing or give it up and move on . At this time I have stopped vaping completely and of course started smoking again , maybe this hole vaping thing just isn't for me . I'm sure like everything out on the market not everything works for everyone , maybe I'm just 1 of those folks that this product doesn't work for . But we will see what the doc has say . And if he does confirm what common sence dictates that there is something within this product causing these issues when I was feeling perfectly fine before I started using these products
I don't think that I will waste my $$ on $22-$30 bottles of this stuff and just say goodbye to it , and the best of luck to everyone that can use these products but let's see what he has to say before I make any decisions .

 

[WillyZee]

Well as I posted above I just recently did my yearly phyical several weeks ago and all was good , what is going on here with this vaping thing I'm not sure , I'm strongly consider making a doc appointment and speaking to him about the symptoms etc ,
And of course pending what he says will determine weather I do this vaping thing or give it up and move on . At this time I have stopped vaping completely and of course started smoking again , maybe this hole vaping thing just isn't for me . I'm sure like everything out on the market not everything works for everyone , maybe I'm just 1 of those folks that this product doesn't work for . But we will see what the doc has say . And if he does confirm what common sence dictates that there is something within this product causing these issues when I was feeling perfectly fine before I started using these products
I don't think that I will waste my $$ on $22-$30 bottles of this stuff and just say goodbye to it , and the best of luck to everyone that can use these products but let's see what he has to say before I make any decisions .

Chances are your doctor knows nothing more about Vaping, other than the propaganda he's read.

Search the Internet ... there is massive evidence that Vaping is a much healthier smoking alternative.

You will be hard pressed finding others with your personal experience.

I would keep at it.


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[Continuity]

I'll say that there's next to no way that you 'get on' with breathing deeply of tobacco smoke all day, but that vaping as a whole is problematic for you.

I'd do as some of us suggested further up the thread, which is do a process of elimination (no/low PG, low/no nicotine, no flavourings etc) and see if there is a particular factor that is making problems for you.

Also, I'd bear in mind that some of the things you've been feeling could have been due to "quitters' 'flu" (it's a thing) and also could be partly psychosomatic as well.

I'd also warn you that hardly *any* medical doctors know *anything* about vaping, even some of the few that are *for* it, so don't treat anything they say as gospel about it.