ok I think there may be a trick to charging instead of leaving the charger and ac pack charger plugged in between charges and just screwing the battery in to charge. It seems to work better if you unplug everything, then plug in the ac/dc charger, attach the usb charger to it then the battery. When I did it this way with the Hello charger the tornado charged fine on it.. will try again with the 016 in about 6 hours... now I have to get to tootin!