Help a Coil Building Newbie

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Don29palms

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Yes it changes the balance of amps and volts. Yes it has to be within the high and low limits of the mod. But as far as the average end user it makes no difference.
The mod will deliver the selected watts to the coil whether it's 1 ohm or 0.2 ohms.
So you just admitted it is important so quit lying to people especially newbies.
 

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The resistance matters to a point. Do you need to be within a tenth of an ohm when you build a coil? No, not really, you can make up for it by adjusting your wattage up or down a click or two. But there is a big difference between the performance of a 1 ohm coil and a 2 ohm coil. And there is a HUGE difference between a 1 ohm coil and a .2 ohm coil. It will really depend on your vaping style. I tend to like my coils between 1.5 and 1.8 ohms for a tank. I am talking about non temp control by the way.

It can also effect battery performance. A lower ohm coil build will require more amperage and will give you less battery life. Many people that complain about poor battery life and voltage sag when using a .2 ohm coil could easily fix their problems by simply using a higher resistance like .5 to .8 ohms. You will still make plenty of clouds trust me. However it will be less stress on your battery.
 

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I have to agree... I'm pretty sure that the ohms of a coil factor into what the mod is pulling from the batteries in some fashion? Am I completely wrong on this, as it seems to me that a) if you have a super low resistance coil you may need higher wattage to get a satisfying vape, and also I notice if I use different resistance coils (like going from 1.8 to 1.6) I seem to get noticeably different battery life, and that only makes sense to me if the coil resistance plays a role.

I haven't researched this much and once again, I am ready to be corrected, though!!!

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Coil resistance doesn't really matter if you already know what kind of coil you're building/using and already have an idea of the neighborhood you're going to be in when the circuit is closed. If you're shooting for 0.50 Ohms and you come up with something 0.10 Ohms higher or lower it's no big deal.

If you're shooting for half that 0.50 Ohms and your coil reads out 0.10 higher or lower than 0.25, then it becomes an issue.

It's why newbies are encouraged to shoot for 0.50 early on because there's not too much trouble in that neighborhood. It's also why newbies are encouraged to start with coils made from plain round wire and leave social media's cool, sexy and exotic coils alone for awhile. There is lots of trouble in that neighborhood.
 

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Not a lie but a simplification. Many newbies get hung up on coil resistance as a significant factor, as it is on an unregulated device.
No. It's not a simplification it's a lie that you keep saying and it's a straight up lie. In any vape setup ohms, watts and volts all have a role.
 

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Deftly swinging back on topic...

Coil building is a lot like fishing. Get a fishing pole and some bait, go sit on a bank and put the bait on the hook. Put it in the water and you'll probably catch fish.

Get some resistance wire and a straight object like a toothpick, a nail, a drill bit or a bamboo skewer (My favorite), wrap the wire around the object about 8-10 times and you'll have a coil.

It's when you want to catch a special kind of fish or build a special kind of coil that things get complicated. That's why it's always a good idea to get the basics down first. You don't want to wrestle Jaws on your first fishin' trip and you don't want a monster micro-ohm exotic on your first build. Bad things can happen. Fishing and vaping are supposed to be fun... and bad things happening ain't fun.
 

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Really, we had to bring politics into this? Wow. This isn't rocket science, religion or politics here guys and gals. The information is out there. Just do some online research and plug some numbers into an ohms law calculator. You don't even have to do any math.

And everyones vaping style is different. Me personally, I don't see the need for a .2 ohm coil, at all. But that is me, if someone else feels different more power to them. It isn't something I would suggest to a new vaper though. Or someone that likes mouth to lung vaping or lower powered set ups. When you start getting that low you better know what you are getting into and have some idea about how different devices work and how batteries work. Sticking to the 1 ohm range (.7 to 1.5) will pretty much accommodate any style of vaping and still be fairly forgiving on what mod or batteries you use.
 

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Great analogy coastal! You can catch fish and have fun with a cheap pole and bobber from walmart if you want to. Hand a new fisher a bait cast reel and some gimmicky lure and they will probably walk away from the experience hating it. Learn to put a worm on a hook first, then worry about the fancy stuff later.
 

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So an update on my first attempt:

First...holy $%&# my eyes are HORRIBLE! Time to visit the eye doctor!

I ended up with 6.5 or 7 wraps by the time I figured out how to line the ends up to come out in the same direction without a 90° bend. That's an easy fix for next time. That coil ended up at 1.05 or 1.1 ohms depending on which mod I put it on (Vaporesso & Pico: 1.05; iStick 30W: 1.1); should have my ohm meter tomorrow. I know some fluctuation is normal, and that seems to be in the normal range. Also assume 30W is rounding up since it doesn't measures to tenths.

Haven't wicked it yet...trying to let my eyes rest before I go blind(er). Wicking shouldn't be an issue. I've wicked coils on a Triton RTA and know not to go too tight or loose, but I'm sure there will be a learning curve so thanks for the tip on that!
have you made any progress?also can we call you al?
 

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have you made any progress?also can we call you al?
Ha! You can call me Al if you want! Better than Ted I suppose!

Definitely made progress. I'm building coils pretty consistently at around .6 ohms (28g 316L; 5 wraps, spaced; 3mm ID) and I'm pretty dialed in on the wicking. Currently running in TC mode (TCR 88) at about 380ºF.

Thanks for checking up on me! I haven't blown myself up yet!
 
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