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pinthetail90

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Hey guys i have been lurking around for past few days trying to learn about PVs.

I have a basic idea about how i'd start out with but it'd reassure me if some veterans would offer some advice before i place the order:

I am in my late twenties and been smoking about 10-15 milds a day for past 5-6 years, yeah I know. :unsure:

So this is what i have in my cart:


  • 2x Genuine joyetech eGo-C 1000mah TWIST Variable 3.2v-4.8v - BLACK $65.90
  • 2x GotVapes Vision Mini ViVi Nova™ 2.5ml 2.4ohm $17.90
  • 1x 500mA 510 eGo Fast USB Charger for E-smart, EVOD & eGo batteries $5.95
4x of 12mg/ml juices from mtbakervapor at 50% VG/PG (50/50 is recommended for starting out right?) $20

So am i doing this right?
 

szot

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I think this simple ego C 1100a battery (2) and 2 Ce5's, a case, a lanyard, AC charger and USB charger is the best starter vkit U can buy for $44 DV eGo-T Starter Kit - 1100mah...then buy some liquid/juice (50ml) at Best E Cigarette | Buy Electronic Cigarettes | E Cig Juice - MT Baker Vapor for $10.99 that will last ya a month..so for $11 for a month of juice and $44 for a starter kit that basically will last ya over 1 year exceot replacing the Ce 5 ($3,49 a month), this is no better or cheaper way to begin and last ya a year.. eliquid 80/20..18mg 50 ml bottle, and the 555 and ry4 is pretty good flavor without being too sweet or fruity
 
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HOPS

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Sounds like a good place to start to me! Can't go wrong with a quality twist. My only advice would be to maybe switch 1 of the vivi nova's with a T3 or mini ProTank (or just add 1 of those to your order if another couple bucks isn't a big deal)... My reasoning is, while many love the top coil vivi's, I hate them because you constantly have to tilt them over to keep the coil wet with juice. The bottom coil stuff (T3's, evods, BCC's, protank's etc) have the coil at the bottom so it's always wet. No tilting, no dry hits... That's just my opinion though, but being new it's worth it for you to try both and see what you like better... One other bit of advice would be to make a bottle of juice or 2 18mg just in case lol... Sometimes juice doesn't have the same kick as a cig so doesn't hurt to start a bit higher.
Edit: if you got 4 different flavors, get 1 clearo for each that way you can try them all right away (as you'll probably be eager to do lol). If not, you'll have to clean/change heads for a different flavor...
 
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The gear setup you have chosen is spot on. I might have chosen the eGo Vision Spinner over the Twist (slightly wider diameter, an easier to read and use voltage dial, slightly cheaper), but the Twist is a proven model that is very similar to the Spinner.

The price of the Twist you list is on the high side. You can get two 1000 mAh Twists from AltSmoke for $52. AltSmoke.com - AltSmoke.com | eGo-C Twist Battery

However, you'd be paying a little more for the Vivi Nova's ($20 vs $18) at AltSmoke. AltSmoke.com - Vision Vivi Replaceable Coil Tanks

Another vendor offers a kit that you can order both a Twist and Spinner in a kit http://www.myvaporstore.com/SearchResults.asp?Search=ego+twist

You didn't mention the nic strength of the juices you plan to order. Based on your smoke history, I'd suggest 12 - 18 mg.

You should be good to go. Enjoy. :thumb:



Here are some beginner guides that I wrote:

Ideal Beginner's Setup - http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/baditude/3706-4-good-starters-setup-beginning-vapor.html

Primer on Juice Delivery Devices - http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/baditude/3230-1-proper-terminology-carto-tank-what-primer-juice-delivery-attachments.html
 
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Spazmelda

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I was going to say the same thing as HOPS. I also hate the top coils (although many love them) and much prefer bottom coils or cartomizers in a tank. Some people love the vivi nova (top coils), but I hate the tilting and burny flavor I get if the wick gets too dry. I'd add either and evod or maybe some cartomizers. I'd also add maybe another 4 pack of liquids, or go with a larger sampler pack. Finding a juice you like can be hit or miss. Your chosen battery looks to be a good one and you are smart to get two of them. I just think you'll definitely want to sample some other liquid delivery systems in case you don't like the vivi Novas.
 
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Shop around a bit more....

You can find 1300 mah Vision Spinners for about $25 each, although the kit szot points to is pretty decent.

Look also at MyVaporStore, they have decent - and reasonably priced - kits that let you mix and match, so you can try a Vivi for top coil and a T3 or Evod for bottom coil. They do vape differently. Which is better? Can't say. It's a matter of personal preference. The tilt and spin for top coils becomes automatic after a while. Bottom coils tend to vape a little cooler (at the same voltage and resistance.) Both have strong advocates.
 
I am not a vaping veteran (just a regular one...HA!!) Your choose of eGo's us great...I love my iClear16's but everyone has their favorite clearo's...only thing I would say is buy more juice. MT Baker is a great place...but as a new vaper going on his 2 month...buy more juice...90+ mils to start...as a new vaper you'll vape A LOT...I vaped 150 last month...just my opinion...
 

HOPS

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Wow this one active community, so many helpful responds already. Before i slowly read them all and check out the products recommended, i'd like to mention that soon I'll be outside of united states and therefore would prefer sellers that ship to Asia.
Ha! You're headed to vapetopia lol... Seems that everything comes from China. I only use US retailers so I can't point you to an Asian based vendor, but since everything comes from there I'd imagine there has to be a lot of them...
 

HOPS

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Doh. Almost forgot about this.
HaHa! My work is done, beer me! Lmao
Another couple handy items if you are going to be trying out a bunch of new juices would be a dripping atomizer, sealed 510/510 adapter, drip shield, and drip tip. With this, you can drip 3 or 4 drops of juice in, taste it, and decide what you want to fill up a clearo/tank with. That way you can taste many juices in 1 sitting without having to buy 1 tank for each...
 
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GordyK

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Hi PinTheTail,

I'd like to offer you my experience when I began vaping 3-4 years ago. There are some things NOT mentioned here that should be addressed or made aware of when transitioning from analogs that I was never aware of.

The transition can be quite pleasant but may also test your body. What I mean is, my first 6 months of the transition vaping period used to give me a slight sore throat from time to time. Now I can't confirm this was due to me starting on a higher nicotine % than others but it's very common. You're training your lungs to endure the vape vs. analog smoke. Just thought you should be aware of this as you may experience down the road and worry if this is normal. My sister has also experienced this.

Something else I read that also may influence this is analogs naturally irritate your throat, mixing with vapor this can enhance this transition, so I recommend cold turkey quitting the analogs and strictly sticking to vape. I transitioned immediately! I also consumed more and more juice as this transition period and found myself vaping all day long, especially because I could vape inside my home, instead of stepping outside every time I wanted an analog. Also very normal.

I smoked roughly 15-20 cigarettes a day. An easy nicotine mg content I found was 18-24mg (24mg being on the higher side). At one point I found myself actually increasing my nicotine content when using certain ecig combinations because the drags required more work, especially from ecig cartridges. Once I learned of Tanks/Carto's is when I dropped to a consistent 18-20mg nicotine content as the drags were more open and didn't require as much effort. All of this helped with my cold turkey from analog to vaping transition.

Personally I highly recommend a "Vision Spinner" 510 as your first ecig. This will allow you to control your voltage offering you a warmer or cooler vape while you transition. This will be your best bang for your buck, and will even work great once you become more experienced with vaping.

Juice Recommendations:

I recommend the STANDARD 70/30 mix on juice. Flavors will vary pending what you prefer. Mt. Baker Vapor or commonly known as "MBV" is HANDS DOWN the best juice producer in the market I have ever experienced, and let it be known I've experienced with MOST ecig manufacturing companies, and currently own abount 12-15 different styles of everything you can think of including my current fetish for mods and non-mechanicals, RDA's, etc. I do lots of customizations and am an avid dripper atm.

MBV's prices are unbeatable. They will definitely provide you with a large amount of QUALITY JUICE for HALF THE PRICE of most juice manufacturer's out there. No joke!

They don't offer a standard 70/30 like other juice makers, but their 80/20 or 65/35 is spot on par. These ratio's will keep your tank cartomizer's in healthier shape and won't endure "gunking" or dry hits, which taste nasty! Carto's on average should last roughly 1-2 weeks pending on vaping. Currently and I vape all day long they last me 2 weeks or so before needing replacement.

Alcohol Consumption:

If you're a drinker, and are worried about craving analogs while consuming alcohol products, best experience for me was to stick to the flavor closest to what you smoked when you smoked analogs (Regular or Menthols) and increase your nicotine mg. Personally I smoked Menthols, full flavors when I smoked analogs. So I stuck to a Menthol juice, and vaped 24mg nicotine. Nicotine in your juice has a bit of a "pepper" taste to it. This mixes well with beer well. With the increased Nicotine (which increases throat hits) it REALLY provided me with enough umph to not crave an analog at all! I actually tried to smoke an analog one night while fishing/drinking and it was totally gross. I immediately went right back to vaping and truly enjoyed the experience. Don't be shy when purchasing juice. Make sure you keep your standard for when your drinking, and your fruity flavors for your ADV (All day vape). Unless you prefer standard analog flavor as your ADV (whatever suites you). Keep in mind 1 thing, and that is ecig juice actually ages like a fine wine. The longer it sits, doesn't always mean it expires or goes bad. It actually allows the nicotine in your juice to solidify more with your flavors and actually enhances them!

If you have any other questions please feel free to ask. I hope this information answers many questions you will have regarding juices, etc. I know you asked for best bang in your start ecig, but It would have been only a matter of time before you returned with questions regarding juice and their mixtures. Sadly I didn't have this answered for me early on, so hopefully this helps ya out. :)
 
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HOPS

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Something else I read that also may influence this is analogs naturally irritate your throat, mixing with vapor this can enhance this transition, so I recommend cold turkey quitting the analogs and strictly sticking to vape.
I have to VEHEMENTLY disagree with this approach! There are so many habits and rituals that go along with smoking that they become an addiction as much as the nicotine. Quitting cigarettes is stressful enough without placing an "all or nothing" mandate on it. I, as many others would, recommend keeping your cigs. Move at your own pace. Do what feels right for you. If your throat does get sore (mine did not and I smoked and vaped in the beginning, never heard the theory stated in this quote) adjust accordingly. The whole idea here is to reduce the stress of quitting cigarettes, not add pressure to do it immediately. Short and simple pinthetail, your vaping journey will be unique. There is no right or wrong way to get there. If you still have to have a cig after dinner, but vape all the rest of the time, WIN! If 50/50 works for you, WIN! Go at your own pace, and how you feel most comfortable...
 

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I think this depends upon the individual trying to quit smoking. Both methods have success stories, and I see no reason to say one way is better than another. Whatever you think will work best for you.

When I began vaping, I vaped as much as I wanted. If I got a craving for a cigarette, I vaped more frequently/harder. If that didn't work, I allowed myself HALF of a cigarette.

I continued this method for an entire week. As the week wore on, I found that the cigs didn't satisfy and actually started to taste bad. I began to prefer just vaping. At the end of the week my last pack of cigs was finished, and so was I. I haven't touched nor wanted a cigarette since. 15 months and counting.

I'm a firm believer in a saying here on ECF. "It's not the number of cigarettes that you smoke that count, it's the ones that you don't."
 
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kpmeth

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Hey guys i have been lurking around for past few days trying to learn about PVs.

I have a basic idea about how i'd start out with but it'd reassure me if some veterans would offer some advice before i place the order:

I am in my late twenties and been smoking about 10-15 milds a day for past 5-6 years, yeah I know. :unsure:

So this is what i have in my cart:


  • 2x Genuine Joyetech eGo-C 1000mah TWIST Variable 3.2v-4.8v - BLACK $65.90
  • 2x GotVapes Vision Mini ViVi Nova™ 2.5ml 2.4ohm $17.90
  • 1x 500mA 510 eGo Fast USB Charger for E-smart, EVOD & eGo Batteries $5.95
4x of 12mg/ml juices from mtbakervapor at 50% VG/PG (50/50 is recommended for starting out right?) $20

So am i doing this right?

No you are going wrong way.

Buy BLU starter kit. It blows all other PV out of water.


J/K....:p
 
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