Ok I'm ready to try quitting analogs and vape. I just have so many questions. I have been searching the board and have a few ideas of some things but confused about most. First, what is a good starter kit? I'm reading that an ego vv is the way to go. Is that the best option? Clearomizer or tank? Basically I have read so much I'm overloaded and need a good starting point. Help. Thanks
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Welcome , and either an EGO " twist " , or a Vision " spinner " , are both good choices . Both are Variable voltage , and fairly inexpensive . And in my opinion , you should go with one of the clearo's . A mini Vivi-Nova , a Kanger " Evod " , even , the Kanger baby T3 . I have and still use all of these , with great success . This setup will be far more advanced , and probably cheaper , than alot of the starter kits . Just make sure you have more then one device . 2 batteries , at least 2 clearo's , plenty of sample juices , and the appropriate charger . Good Luck .
Now with clearomizer, can they be cleaned and used with different flavors? Are there any parts in them that go bad? How many should I have on hand?
First of all, welcome to our forum. You'll find many people willing to help you out in your vaping experience. Just realize there is no "best option" for everyone. Choose what looks to fit your needs and expectations.
Most people will recommend a V-V ego battery as the backbone to a starting setup. From there you will need the appropriate charger for the batteries. Oh, you'll need a minimum of two; one to use while the other is charging, and we all recommend a backup battery. You may also wish to invest in a usb/wall adaptor so that you can charge your batteries when not near a computer port.
There are several juice delivery devices you can choose from. I recommend getting at least two types to try, as they all work a little differently and everyone ends up preferring one over another.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/baditude/3230-1-proper-terminology-carto-tank-what-primer-juice-delivery-attachments.html
Next you will need e-juice. These come in different nicotine strengths. A 1 ppd smoker typically starts out with 24mg nicotine. Don't worry too much at this point if offered a choice of pg/vg ratio's in the juice; start out with a basic 50/50 mix. As far as flavors, you can try some tobacco flavors if you wish, but realize you won't find one that tastes like a cigarette does. No one has developed an e-liquid flavor to taste like burning tobacco and smoke.
I recommend purchasing several flavors in smaller bottles to see what you might like best; this way you aren't wasting money on a larger bottle of juice that has a flavor you can't stand. Once you find some winners, buy more in a larger quantity. Many juice vendors offer sampler packs to test flavors in the hope you will return to buy a larger bottle later. Most vapors consume 3 - 6 ml of juice daily, so figure your purchase appropriately.
I've written an article with recommendations for a starter setup. The Twist and the Spinner are quite similar and vary only by the control dial and different battery duration. Battery duration is figured in mAh: 100 mah = 1 hour use between charges. For example, a 1000 mAh battery should last at least 10 hours of use. A 650 mAh battery should last 6.5 hours.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/baditude/3706-4-good-starters-setup-beginning-vapor.html
Most people will recommend a V-V ego battery as the backbone to a starting setup. From there you will need the appropriate charger for the batteries. Oh, you'll need a minimum of two; one to use while the other is charging, and we all recommend a backup battery. You may also wish to invest in a usb/wall adaptor so that you can charge your batteries when not near a computer port.
There are several juice delivery devices you can choose from. I recommend getting at least two types to try, as they all work a little differently and everyone ends up preferring one over another.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/baditude/3230-1-proper-terminology-carto-tank-what-primer-juice-delivery-attachments.html
Next you will need e-juice. These come in different nicotine strengths. A 1 ppd smoker typically starts out with 24mg nicotine. Don't worry too much at this point if offered a choice of pg/vg ratio's in the juice; start out with a basic 50/50 mix. As far as flavors, you can try some tobacco flavors if you wish, but realize you won't find one that tastes like a cigarette does. No one has developed an e-liquid flavor to taste like burning tobacco and smoke.
I recommend purchasing several flavors in smaller bottles to see what you might like best; this way you aren't wasting money on a larger bottle of juice that has a flavor you can't stand. Once you find some winners, buy more in a larger quantity. Many juice vendors offer sampler packs to test flavors in the hope you will return to buy a larger bottle later. Most vapors consume 3 - 6 ml of juice daily, so figure your purchase appropriately.
I've written an article with recommendations for a starter setup. The Twist and the Spinner are quite similar and vary only by the control dial and different battery duration. Battery duration is figured in mAh: 100 mah = 1 hour use between charges. For example, a 1000 mAh battery should last at least 10 hours of use. A 650 mAh battery should last 6.5 hours.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/baditude/3706-4-good-starters-setup-beginning-vapor.html
First, congrats on taking the first step and welcome! 
I agree with Renzuli, the ego twist is what I started with, If you look around you should be
able to pick up a couple of those or the spinners without spending too much. I never did get
a vivi, just used vision clearomizers. If you decide on the vision clearos, get the ones with
replaceable heads and get yourself a few of those. The vivi novas also have replaceable heads,
so if you decide on those get some extra heads as well. I would suggest starting out with standard
resistance, gives you a bit more latitude till you know what kind of voltage you like to vape at. ( just my opinion)
One last thing, steer clear of citrus and cinnamon juice....they can crack the plastic in the vivi and the other clearos.
I agree with Renzuli, the ego twist is what I started with, If you look around you should be
able to pick up a couple of those or the spinners without spending too much. I never did get
a vivi, just used vision clearomizers. If you decide on the vision clearos, get the ones with
replaceable heads and get yourself a few of those. The vivi novas also have replaceable heads,
so if you decide on those get some extra heads as well. I would suggest starting out with standard
resistance, gives you a bit more latitude till you know what kind of voltage you like to vape at. ( just my opinion)
One last thing, steer clear of citrus and cinnamon juice....they can crack the plastic in the vivi and the other clearos.
Yes, clearomizers and Vivi Nova tanks can be rinsed and reused with a new flavor. The "head" contains the atomizer and string wicks and these only last 1 - 3 weeks. Some of the clearomizers and Vivi tanks are "rebuildable", meaning that you can buy a replacement head and replace the old one and keep the original tank working.
Be careful with the juice flavors that you use in clearomizers and Vivi Nova tanks. Some flavors are known to crack or melt the clear plastic (polycarbonate).
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...6-something-safe-cinnamon-citrus-flavors.html
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Welcome to the forum! I know the information & selection can be quite overwhelming! I'd definetly skip the regular egos & go straight to a vv ego like a spinner or twist. The suggestions you've received so far are exactly what I was going to say so I won't repeat it. I'm sure your poor eyes & brain are already hurting enough. I had a major headache when I was trying to figure out where to start. Lol! Good luck!
I haven't been around much, but if I can give any advice I would say it's most important to determine your desires when it comes to vaping. I've already returned one set of gear because, though it was highly recommended and well reviewed, it just wasn't "enough" for me. I'm much happier with the Zmax telescope and rebuildable atomizer than I was with the previous tank system. Determine what your expectations are and be willing to lay out the money...you'll recoup it soon enough and have a much more pleasurable experience.
Ok so if I go with a kanger evod clearomizer, I need the coil replacements correct? What is the dirrerence in ohms do ?
The nice thing about a VV Twist or Spinner is that the Ohms can be anywhere between 2-3ohms and you can adjust the battery to suit your vape needs. The general rule of thumb is to start the voltage low and gradually increase until you hit your sweet spot. Secondly, most delivery devices (Kanger T-2, evod, Vivinova)have replacement heads available. Again, the head will have a resistance option. Stick to the 2-3 ohm range to take advantage of a VV device.
Take advantage of reading Baditudes blog posts. There is a lot of good information.
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The choice in ohms, or resistance rating, of a juice delivery device depends in large part on the voltage that your battery device will be giving them.
A single or fixed voltage battery usually will be putting out 3.7 volts, so a low resistance (1.5 - 2.0 ohm) or standard resistance (2.0 - 2.5 ohm) is recommended. A variable voltage device can give out power between 3.5 - 6 volts, so you would want a high resistance (2.5 - 3.0 ohm) delivery device.
This Safe Vaping Power Chart is often used as a guideline in helping to choose the correct ohm to voltage used:
http://www.ecigadvanced.com/community/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/power.jpg
Low resistance will provide a warmer vape, possibly too harsh for some and may mute some flavors. A higher resistance will provide a cooler vape, possibly allowing for a smoother vape and full flavor production.
The benefit of variable voltage batteries is having the ability to adjust the heat of the vapor. Some flavors will benefit from either a higher or lower voltage, and is determined by taste.
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That kinda depends, are you going to get a rebuildable clearo? That's what I would suggest, then you can buy plenty of extra coils to replace when they go out.
I would suggest to you a Spinner battery, they are wonderful and about 5 clearomizers of your choice. Maybe even try a couple of different ones. I like the Evod and the protanks but that would depend on you, both of those have a bit of an airy draw.
Tell you what, tell us what you like in a smoke!
Tighter draw?
Airy draw?
Throat hit?
Lots of vapor?
Lots of flavor?
Little flavor?
Warmer vape?
Cooler Vape?
Answer these and the people here will be so very happy to offer up loads of suggestions.
Welcome to the forum Cfox, so happy that you found this wonderful place and these wonderful people. They are the kindest on the entire WWW. Congrats on your desire to quit the analogs, that's the first and most important step.
Well as to those questions here goes. I have tried a fin electronic cig. It didn't seems like it pulled at all. Hence the need for something better. I tend to pull hard on analogs which give a hot hit. I would prefer less heat and also less throat hit than analogs. I would like more flavor in my vapes. Last thing is im not looking to spend a huge amount to start but am willing to grow as time goes. Also, baditude, you have great info. Thanks so much!
Definitely listen to Renzuli and Baditude. I wish I'd found ECF before I bought my first kit. I went through Blu and one other before getting to basically what they recommend. Took the long route around. Also, spent more than I had to.
I think the main thing I'd say is get the eGo style batteries (with charger of course). And variable voltage, yes. It's nice. You don't have to figure out everything right off the bat. The eGo style (it's not a brand but a "type") can fit a ton of widgets. Cartos, clearos, thisos, thatos, whicheveros.
So you can try different things. You don't have to figure it all out now. I was using cartomizers at first but am moving to Vision Stardust clearos (these ones right here actually). But also have a Vivi Nova Mini I tried out. Which works great, I just like the "look" of the Stardusts better. Thinking of trying a Kranger since so many swear by them but I'm kinda getting settled in with the Stardusts.Point being, get a couple of the ones you want, which ever that turns out to be, but don't buy too many at this point. You'll probably want to try other widgets. With the eGo style batteries (Joyetech or Vision), you're not stuck with what you start with.
Look for "sample packs" at liquid vendors. Finding the liquids you like and work for you will take some experimenting definitely. There's no way to predict what liquids anybody will like. Too subjective. I say order smaller amounts of a wide array of liquids rather than big bottles of a few. You're going to have a period of "settling in" where you explore what works for you.
Which is kinda fun too. More so than smoking I think. And one aspect of vaping that keeps me away from the cigs.
Also, welcome! And you've come to the right place. Lots of knowledgeable folk who love to talk vaping. Yeah, it can be confusing at first but you'll find tons of help and it doesn't take long to get "up to speed". I haven't even been around all that long but actually can sound like I know what I'm talking about.
Well, sometimes.
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Alot of information , I know , but several people agree on basically what to start out with . As far as which ever clearo , you decide on , you should get a package of 5 . in the ohm range , you like , I'm presently using some Evod's and have both the 1.8 , as well as the 2.4 ohm ones . They both work great on a twist , or Vision , so your choice . I think the stock Evod , comes with the 2.4 . Good Luck
A lot of posters have been recommending this kit to new users. It allows you to buy a Spinner and a Twist (both variable voltage) and to try different clearomizers. The price seems more than fair: http://www.myvaporstore.com/Vision_Spinner_Joye_Ego_C_Twist_Combo_p/vvs-c.htm
With this kit, you are getting genuine products. Plus, as you change ordering options, it gives you a picture of exactly what you are ordering. The option to try different colors is fun, too.
With this kit, you are getting genuine products. Plus, as you change ordering options, it gives you a picture of exactly what you are ordering. The option to try different colors is fun, too.
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Welcome im pretty sure a lot of people have already suggested the ego twist with thr vivi tank system......and I coukd not agree more as it is great as a starter combo and fairly inexpensive. Good luck
im pretty sure a lot of people have already suggested the ego twist with thr vivi tank system......and I coukd not agree more as it is great as a starter combo and fairly inexpensive. Good luck
THIS - Baditude has some awesome tutorial videos too - it's because of this poster that I bought the spinner / V2 clearomizer kit from my vapor store.
Baditude - you rock
Cfox23 - you've come to the right place
I also wish I had ECF before starting, I went from eroll to ego-c upgraded, Ego twist to VAMO. I strongly suggest going for the recommendation above, Evods for tanks are great and there's a lot of tutorials for rebuilding it.
Ok I'm close to making my decision. Last question for now. What is the difference in the kanger evod, t3, and mt3 clearomizers? Just size?
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