Help - Advice for Newbie's GGTS Shopping List?

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If I were you mac I would stick to the 510 to see if you actually like vaping before you spend hundreds of dollars on devices. It isn't for everyone. I have seen plenty of people NOT like it and have plenty of troubles with it including allergies to PG and I really think you should learn to use the atomizer before jumping in with both feet with a full fledge mod....

Just MHO

Good advice, but it is hard to find any hardware for even less then $40.00 to even start with, and as others have mentioned, I could always resell the GG if I were not happy. I do know that smoking analogs is really bad, and it would be nice if I could get the nic without the rest of the really bad stuff. As far as PG and VG, well I hope I'm not allergic. Can always use the batteries in flash lights! :)
 

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5Steve,

I understand your frustrations as a newbie, it's definitely worth taking the time to read the appropriate sections which relate to the models you are talking about as this is a GG specific forum and not really the place for this type of discussion.
Good luck with the vaping and please do come back to find out more abot the GG, it would solve all your vaping issues for sure.

Mactavish,
I understand you are upset that you felt your thread was being hijacked by another forum user with some unrelated questions, however, here on the GG forum, we pride ourselves on being an extremely friendly and helpful group of people and although I am sure you didn't mean to sound as angry as you did, it's as well to bear in mind that sometimes our words can seem harsher than we originally intended.

As to your original topic, I would strongly suggest you purchase a starter kit to find out if vaping suits you before you spend large amounts of cash on a high-end device like the GG. :)

Sorry, didn't meant to sound "angry", as you can see I'm doing a lot of last minute homework on this subject. See my related post on starter kits. Seems as some have said, if you don't get a decent experience from the beginning, it may not be appealing from the start, and some have gone back to cigs after a less then satisfying first experience. Granted, just reading and researching is never the same as doing. For what I'm spending now on analog habit, even my complete shopping list will pay for itself in very little time. Hope I'm right, not very much to lose if not. Thanks for your thoughts.
 

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1. You'll need some fine grade sandpaper 1000+ (DON'T USE STANDARD SANDPAPER YOU'LL DAMAGE THE UNIT).. for the switch

2. You'll want some conductive anti-seizure compound for the threads.


Maintaining the threads from go will help prevent the unit seizing. I can't stress enough the importance of this particularly if you don't have a back-up mod.

My GG seized before we knew on the forum the importance using these compounds.

Noalox brand anti-oxidant is such a compound.

I understand the part about the "threads", what is the sandpaper used for on the "switch"? Nice detail, just want to clarify, thanks!
 

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I understand the part about the "threads", what is the sandpaper used for on the "switch"? Nice detail, just want to clarify, thanks!

1) I got my Noalox at Home Depot for a good price, less than $10 I think. It's in the electrical section next to the "wire lube", and the employees probably never heard of it before. You don't need to do this more than once every 1 or 2 weeks. I've gone longer. The more you do this, the "nicer" the threads will feel when used.

2) The fine sandpaper (you may know it as emery cloth) is used to clean the part of the switch plunger facing that actually makes the electrical connection when you push it. It's very easy to get to this part, and looks very easy to do. I've had my GGT for a couple of months, and haven't done mine yet. I need to get around to it some day... :D

3) I didn't notice anyone answer your questioon about the cartomizers, but YES they will work on a GGT without any kind of adapter, so I'm assuming they will work on the GGTS as well.

4) Going from zero to GGTS owner in one fell swoop: Awesome! Mighty bold move, sir. Kinda like buying a Lexus for your driving exam. :D
 

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1) I got my Noalox at Home Depot for a good price, less than $10 I think. It's in the electrical section next to the "wire lube", and the employees probably never heard of it before. You don't need to do this more than once every 1 or 2 weeks. I've gone longer. The more you do this, the "nicer" the threads will feel when used.

2) The fine sandpaper (you may know it as emery cloth) is used to clean the part of the switch plunger facing that actually makes the electrical connection when you push it. It's very easy to get to this part, and looks very easy to do. I've had my GGT for a couple of months, and haven't done mine yet. I need to get around to it some day... :D

3) I didn't notice anyone answer your questioon about the cartomizers, but YES they will work on a GGT without any kind of adapter, so I'm assuming they will work on the GGTS as well.

4) Going from zero to GGTS owner in one fell swoop: Awesome! Mighty bold move, sir. Kinda like buying a Lexus for your driving exam. :D

Thanks for the added info, guess I don't have to correct Vaughanie now, since you added the word "emery paper", instead of "sandpaper", for those that are not too handy, sandpaper= wood emerypaper=metal, and you can use emery paper with "water", this keeps the "shavings" from going to powder and getting into other electronic parts, but a good vacuum is best as well.

As far as #4, well, I'd prefer to avoid throwing money away on the cheaper products from the start, and not getting enough "nic" to keep me from going back to cigs. So really not that bold, the cheap stuff has so many downsides, most of which would probably end up in the garbage far too soon anyways. This way I hope to "pass" my exam first time out. I am familiar with vaping a bit do to some "Volcano" and "herb" vaping, just had no idea how far along the e-cig thing was until I stumbled across it, and thought, hey this makes a lot of sense from both a health standpoint as well as saving money. I am addicted to nicotine, and using a delivery system to get that without many or most of the KNOWN bad ingredients of cigs is a good first step. If I want to ramp down the juice and get off nicotine, I might have a much better chance down the road.

If I buy a Volks Wagon, I might fail my exam right from the start. Also seems like someone might be willing to buy a used Lexus if I can't HACK it, pun intended!

I really did read as much as I could find on the Mods in this price range, almost all of them would be less money, but feature wise the GGTS really looks unbeatable. Like many, I like fine tools, ones that will last with constant use/abuse, easy to clean and maintain, and hopefully get parts for if needed later. I'm not a "fanboy" of any particular product, just enjoy finding ones that work as advertised, and though I only know Imeo from his videos and posts, seems like a true inventor, always thinking of new improvements etc., going beyond being satisfied with the first idea. All the other Mods I've researched have gone into production to make money, which I understand, but have stopped short of becoming any kind of "ultimate" product in this "mod" catagory. If there was a mod contest, as of now, I think the GGTS would be the winner for all features it has, and of course like any feature rich product it comes with a substancial price tag. Where I live, a pack of cigs is $10.00, so the GGTS should pay for itself in short time.

Now I have to get back to battery and charger homework, my head is spinning on this as the combinations and various chargers and new stuff I am learning about like "LiFePo4" bats, etc. make for more reading. I own a lot of gear that uses Li-Ion batteries, and the chargers came with the gear, cameras, video, etc., never realized how dangerous they can be, and the charge state etc. Makes NO sense to skimp on this stuff, as they can really BLOW your MIND or head!

Thanks to all for the feedback, feel free to add to the this thread if you like, I learn from all the posts, and hope others do as well.
 
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Yeah the Trustfire charges the same batts. Although I would go with the Tenergy LifePO4 CR123s instead, and they use a separate charger.


Found them here:
Combo Kit: 6 RCR123A 3.0V 750mAh LiFePO4 Rechargeable Batteries with a Smart Charger

Good description of the "liFeP04" is listed on this page. ONLY DOWNSIZE, seems they are only 750mAh, NOT 900mAh like the regular "protected" ones, but the added safety may be worth less run time. This looks like a good 2x 3 volt solution for 5/6v vaping, and I so far looks like I will indeed need to buy a separate charger for any 3.7 bats as well, goal was a "single" charger, but you know how that goes. Are you using these yourself?

Wanted to add this for "Vaughanie", as he mentioned recharge cycles on page #1 of this thread. One of the ADDED plusses of these batteries (run cost factor):

From link above:
"Life cycle: 2000 times (Traditional Li-ion: 500 times)"
 
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I have done all this battery homework also and I find myself liking the CR2 at 6v the best. They don't last long but are a much better vape than the RCR123. The CR2 is more of a mellow vape and does not burn the juice as much. I have a full box of batteries and use the CR2 the most.

Funny, SSRob, in the thread linked below said basically the same thing, as you, his guess was perhaps the lower mHa rating had something to do with that.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/gg/60424-who-waiting-ggt-storm-9.html#post952172
 

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thanks vaughanie, seems I have MORE battery/charger homework to do. Just looking for the most flexibility and trying NOT to buy more then a single charger for now. Like most I have far too many batteries and chargers for all the other electronic crap we have collected. Odd how difficult finding any one place that has good info on Li-ion bat chargers. Doing a google on the two brands we discussed shows chinese web sites, that don't even have all the models available. My next step is too simply look at more e-cig sales sites for more choices on chargers that may be multi volt, or just throw the few bucks on the 3/3.7 volt unit I listed, as that is throw away money anyways. Seems there are horror stories of fires etc., with any or all of these cheap chargers, so doubtful any one of these is better then another in the end. Geez, I researched buying a BlueRay deck in less time then this! :)

LoL@ "BluRay Deck"... That was such a simple purchase for me. Since at the time, at the entry level (plus I'm a gamer) it was a no brainer to get a PS3. Yes, and if someone told you 10 years ago that one day you would do this much research for a battery holder would you have thought them completely insane?:p

I've been using ultrafire brand and also bought some ultra cheap non branded Chinese CR2. Ultrafire lasted reasonably well and so I repurchased. Non branded just didn't last.

I'm careful to be around when they're charging. Not a good idea to leave them on overnight etc. No explosions yet, although I did once put some in the charger the wrong way and they leaked..

However, life is for living not battery neurosis, perhaps...
 
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LoL@ "BluRay Deck"... That was such a simple purchase for me. Since at the time, at the entry level (plus I'm a gamer) it was a no brainer to get a PS3. Yes, and if someone told you 10 years ago that one day you would do this much research for a battery holder would you have thought them completely insane?:p

I've been using ultrafire brand and also bought some ultra cheap non branded Chinese CR2. Ultrafire lasted reasonably well and so I repurchased. Non branded just didn't last.

I'm careful to be around when they're charging. Not a good idea to leave them on overnight etc. No explosions yet, although I did once put some in the charger the wrong way and they leaked..

However, life is for living not battery neurosis, perhaps...

The PS3 is a fine way to go, I ended up on a waiting list to buy the Oppo BD-83, they had a EAP going, 500 decks were purchased by those on a list, they then gave feedback to Oppo, and then had to vote if the deck was ready for market, Oppo said they needed an 80% "yes" vote from the EAP group, which they got. I then waited to get an email that, since I was NOT in the EAP group, that said I could finally purchase the unit. It's great, as fast or faster then the PS3 on loading, the PS3, since a Sony product was the benchmark for BlueRay loading and playback compatibility, since it is part computer, all the movie studios make sure their BlueRay disks, play on a PS3, and you can do updates for your PS3 very easily, the Oppo can do firmware updates via ethernet, USB stick, CD, etc.

Reason I mention this Oppo story, is it reminds me of all the buzz here for the GGTS, same anticipation, on the Oppo thread at the time, people kept posting, "I finally got mine", or "mine just came in", a lot of excitement, that we all got caught up in. In the end the product justified the buzz, as I expect the GGTS to do as well.

But I DIGRESS, I plan on buying the name brand bats, but am going for the "safer" ones, regardless of mAh ratings for now, and see how they run!
 

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YES!
I am amazed at how we have become completely NERDY 8-o about batteries, who would have thunk????

:D:D

After reading of a few battery BLOWUPS, it's not a bad subject to learn more about. One story of a charger catching fire, really caught my eye, and now I see why even the web sites that sell chargers, all say, "do not leave unattended". I do not have this worry with my still and video battery chargers, but these inexpensive Li-Ion ones, for these kinds of batteries, seem to be funky, so best to be overly careful, as opposed to burning down the house.....
 

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I have done all this battery homework also and I find myself liking the CR2 at 6v the best. They don't last long but are a much better vape than the RCR123. The CR2 is more of a mellow vape and does not burn the juice as much. I have a full box of batteries and use the CR2 the most.


I agree to this Vapn but with HV atties that they are on their way, we will need cr123A for sure because cr2 will be very weak for those atomizers. But we will see and decide when we will have those HV:)
 

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I agree to this Vapn but with HV atties that they are on their way, we will need cr123A for sure because cr2 will be very weak for those atomizers. But we will see and decide when we will have those HV:)

I've seen some sites advertise "high voltage" atties, I "assume" they would not work with a GGTS, and we need ones designed and sold by you?
 
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