(Help) Compare Temp Mod for New Member

[NhatNguyen]

I'm going to buy a TC box mod. but I'm torn between following these of them.
The first is sigelei 75w.
Second is IPV2 75w
Third is ipv 4S and IPV 4. (what are differences between 4 and 4S?)
Fourth: Cube II
The last is IPV3 and IPV3 LI (what are differences between 3 and 3 LI?)
which is the best? If possible, please tell me the pros and cons.
I'm using Mutation x4 rda. what gauge of Ni200 should I buy for it? both of single and dual coil.
My English is not very well. Let me know if you do not understand. Thank you so much.

 

[R3fini]

1. haven't personnaly owned any of these but by pure reputation i would go Sigelei anyday. they have made solid device for a very long time now.
2. I don't recall IPV2 has TP... maybe wrong
3. the S stands for Temp limiting function. I warn you though I've seen a couple of IPV4 exploded. I stay away from it personnaly.
4. I have trust issues with smoktech as they have done quite a bit of shady design in the past.
5. I believe the Li to also stand for tc maybe? the ipv3 is solid though

Like I said, I would go Sigelei. There also is the Eleaf TC40w wich is a great deal right now and has tc but I have it and am thouroughly disapointed by its poor performance. I upgraded my waidea vapor flask now and its honnestly the best vape I ever had yet.

 

[NhatNguyen]

1. haven't personnaly owned any of these but by pure reputation i would go Sigelei anyday. they have made solid device for a very long time now.
2. I don't recall IPV2 has TP... maybe wrong
3. the S stands for Temp limiting function. I warn you though I've seen a couple of IPV4 exploded. I stay away from it personnaly.
4. I have trust issues with smoktech as they have done quite a bit of shady design in the past.
5. I believe the Li to also stand for tc maybe? the ipv3 is solid though

Like I said, I would go Sigelei. There also is the Eleaf TC40w wich is a great deal right now and has tc but I have it and am thouroughly disapointed by its poor performance. I upgraded my waidea vapor flask now and its honnestly the best vape I ever had yet.

Thank you so much R3fini. It is a good advice for me. It will wait for more reply before I decide to buy 1 of them. thank you again

 

[suprtrkr]

By reputation I would suggest the Sigelei.

 

[jseah]

I would go with a dual battery mod. I absolutely love my Sigelei 75 TC because of the small size, but being a single battery mod, I go through batteries quickly. When I was using the Freemax Starre Pro on it at 45 watts, one battery would basically last me one tankful of juice, so I was going through 2 batteries a day. Since I started using the Velocity RDA on it at 65 watts, I'm going through 3 batteries a day. You may want to consider the Sigelei 150 TC. The IPV 3Li is pretty highly thought of, so that would be a good choice. The Sigelei 150TC and the IPV 3Li has basically the same chip. The advantage that the IPV's have over the Sigelei's is that they are firmware upgradeable, whereas the Sigelei's are not. Recent upgrades added a titanium setting, while the Sigelei is stuck on nickel only (although you can just account for the difference in the wire by manually accounting for it in your temperature setting).

I am not sure of the difference between the IPV4 and IPV4S. I thought I had read that the IPV4S came with the titanium setting, but if you have the IPV4, you can also just upgrade the firmware to get the same thing. I have no experience with the Cube II, but I do have one on order and it should be coming in tomorrow. When you mention the IPV2, did you mean the IPV D2? That is a pretty small mod too, so I think it would suffer from the same low battery life that plagues the Sigelei 75w.

FWIW, all I use now are TC mods. I have the Sigelei 75, Sigelei 150, Snow Wolf 200, evic-VT, rDNA40, and the SX Mini M Class. As I mentioned, I have the Cube II on order and I also preordered the Vaporshark DNA200 although I probably won't get that until the end of September.

As for the wire itself, you can go with anything from 24 to 28 gauge ni200 wire. It really depends on how wide your build deck is and how large you can wind your coils. Being so low resistance, you would need to do more wraps to get the resistance high enough....especially if you are doing dual coils. I've done dual coils with 26 gauge on my Velocity RDA, but each coil was pretty wide at 12 wraps and that came out to be 0.08 ohms. A single coil 24 gauge build at 12 wraps will come out around 0.08 ohms as well.

 

[Rabbit Slayer]

1. haven't personnaly owned any of these but by pure reputation i would go Sigelei anyday. they have made solid device for a very long time now.
2. I don't recall IPV2 has TP... maybe wrong
3. the S stands for Temp limiting function. I warn you though I've seen a couple of IPV4 exploded. I stay away from it personnaly.
4. I have trust issues with smoktech as they have done quite a bit of shady design in the past.
5. I believe the Li to also stand for tc maybe? the ipv3 is solid though

Like I said, I would go Sigelei. There also is the Eleaf TC40w wich is a great deal right now and has tc but I have it and am thouroughly disapointed by its poor performance. I upgraded my waidea vapor flask now and its honnestly the best vape I ever had yet.

wow, almost everything you said was wrong

Sigelei does have the best rep
IVP 2 does have TC
IVP4 has TC and 100 watts, IVP4s has TC and 120 watts
whatever
and he's right, the LI version has tc the plan 3 does not

Dude trusts Eleaf and P4U but not SMOK??

 

[NhatNguyen]

By reputation I would suggest the Sigelei.

I'm still thinking about Sigelei and X Cube II. a lot of good reviews for Sigelei and X Cube II. Thanks for ur suggestion.

 

[NhatNguyen]

I would go with a dual battery mod. I absolutely love my Sigelei 75 TC because of the small size, but being a single battery mod, I go through batteries quickly. When I was using the Freemax Starre Pro on it at 45 watts, one battery would basically last me one tankful of juice, so I was going through 2 batteries a day. Since I started using the Velocity RDA on it at 65 watts, I'm going through 3 batteries a day. You may want to consider the Sigelei 150 TC. The IPV 3Li is pretty highly thought of, so that would be a good choice. The Sigelei 150TC and the IPV 3Li has basically the same chip. The advantage that the IPV's have over the Sigelei's is that they are firmware upgradeable, whereas the Sigelei's are not. Recent upgrades added a titanium setting, while the Sigelei is stuck on nickel only (although you can just account for the difference in the wire by manually accounting for it in your temperature setting).

I am not sure of the difference between the IPV4 and IPV4S. I thought I had read that the IPV4S came with the titanium setting, but if you have the IPV4, you can also just upgrade the firmware to get the same thing. I have no experience with the Cube II, but I do have one on order and it should be coming in tomorrow. When you mention the IPV2, did you mean the IPV D2? That is a pretty small mod too, so I think it would suffer from the same low battery life that plagues the Sigelei 75w.

FWIW, all I use now are TC mods. I have the Sigelei 75, Sigelei 150, Snow Wolf 200, evic-VT, rDNA40, and the SX Mini M Class. As I mentioned, I have the Cube II on order and I also preordered the Vaporshark DNA200 although I probably won't get that until the end of September.

As for the wire itself, you can go with anything from 24 to 28 gauge ni200 wire. It really depends on how wide your build deck is and how large you can wind your coils. Being so low resistance, you would need to do more wraps to get the resistance high enough....especially if you are doing dual coils. I've done dual coils with 26 gauge on my Velocity RDA, but each coil was pretty wide at 12 wraps and that came out to be 0.08 ohms. A single coil 24 gauge build at 12 wraps will come out around 0.08 ohms as well.

Thank you for your reply. Is single coil better than dual coil? If not, I would choice single coil because it is easier and less time to build. I think I should try both

 

[NhatNguyen]

wow, almost everything you said was wrong

Sigelei does have the best rep
IVP 2 does have TC
IVP4 has TC and 100 watts, IVP4s has TC and 120 watts
whatever
and he's right, the LI version has tc the plan 3 does not

Dude trusts Eleaf and P4U but not SMOK??

give me some examples about box mod that you told.

 

[R3fini]

I'm still thinking about Sigelei and X Cube II. a lot of good reviews for Sigelei and X Cube II. Thanks for ur suggestion.

Have you heard about the upcoming 60 watt vapor flask? I absolutely love vp form factor: you get to see everything in realtime because of the top screen. hold 2 18650 for long autonomy and it fit great in the hand...

Even better; the curves fit a can of soda or beer so nicely, its as if they though that a guy would need free hand to work with!

 

[MikeyConti]

Only good reply here was @jseah

I would also recommend the Sigelei 150TC

 

[stalkster]

I would break it down more like this so there is no con what you buy outside of 75watt? or 150-200watt? Single battery or dual batteries? IPV can upgrade firmware, sigelei can't.
Single battery Mods:
Sigelei 75w.
IPV D2 75w.

Dual battery Mods:
IPV3 LI. 200w
Sigelei 150tc.

"I'm using Mutation x4 RDA. what gauge of Ni200 should I buy for it? both of single and dual coil." 28gauge.

 

[edyle]

I'm going to buy a TC box mod. but I'm torn between following these of them.
The first is Sigelei 75w.
Second is IPV2 75w
Third is IPV 4S and IPV 4. (what are differences between 4 and 4S?)
Fourth: Cube II
The last is IPV3 and IPV3 LI (what are differences between 3 and 3 LI?)
which is the best? If possible, please tell me the pros and cons.
I'm using Mutation x4 RDA. what gauge of Ni200 should I buy for it? both of single and dual coil.
My English is not very well. Let me know if you do not understand. Thank you so much.

keep an eye on the
asolo ijoy

 

[NhatNguyen]

I would break it down more like this so there is no con what you buy outside of 75watt? or 150-200watt? Single battery or dual batteries? IPV can upgrade firmware, sigelei can't.
Single battery Mods:
Sigelei 75w.
IPV D2 75w.

Dual battery Mods:
IPV3 LI. 200w
Sigelei 150tc.

"I'm using Mutation x4 RDA. what gauge of Ni200 should I buy for it? both of single and dual coil." 28gauge.

I would like dual battery and 100w. Is 75w enought for dual coil? both ni200 and kanthal A1?

 

[MikeyConti]

75W is a lot for some and, at the same time, not enough for some, its really about your preference. Do you think its enough for the Builds your going to make?

 

[Veliho]

I recently bought the IPV D2 and am running a Crown tank on it. I love the size and fact that it is 75 watts. Another purchase was the Smok X Cube II. While I haven't been vaping with box mods for a long time, I can tell you that with all of the customization that you can do with the X Cube, it is definitely a mod that will keep up with the fast changes in this market.

 

[jseah]

Thank you for your reply. Is single coil better than dual coil? If not, I would choice single coil because it is easier and less time to build. I think I should try both

It comes down to personal preference. With a dual coil, since you have more coil surface area to vaporize the juice, it will produce a lot more vapor. That said, dual coils may be more difficult to work with, and you also has to consider that with two coils, your resistance drops in half. So with dual coils in a temp control mod, you do run the risk of your resistance dropping below the minimum resistance of your mod.

For example, on my RDA, if I put in a single 24 gauge nickel coil with 12 wraps, it comes out to around 0.07-0.08 ohms. If I use 26 gauge nickel coils with 12 wraps, dual coils comes out at 0.08 ohms. If I tried building dual coils with 24 gauge nickel wire, it would come out around 0.04 ohms. The Sigelei 75, Snow Wolf and the evic-VT will work with coils down to 0.05 ohms. The SX Mini works down to 0.06 ohms. The Sigelei 150 and DNA200 will work down to 0.08 ohms. The DNA40 will work down to 0.1 ohms.

 

[Completely Average]

The first is Sigelei 75w.

Single battery. No support for titanium coils. Firmware non-upgradeable.

Second is IPV2 75w

Not a Temperature Control mod at all.

Third is IPV 4S and IPV 4. (what are differences between 4 and 4S?)

Dual battery TC mod with upgradable firmware and support for titanium coils. The IPV4 was the original but had a design flaw which made it unsafe. The IPV4S is the updated version which has redesigned the board underneath the 510 connector. It also has the upgraded firmware preinstalled so it has more power and support for titanium coils out of the box.

Fourth: Cube II

Considering the "Temperature Control Mode" is an optional software update that you have to pay for and download to make it work, and the fact that their "Temperature Control" M80 doesn't work I wouldn't even consider this mod.

The last is IPV3 and IPV3 LI (what are differences between 3 and 3 LI?)

The IPV3 does not have Temperature Control. The IPV3 Li is the Temperature Control mod. It's basically the big brother to the IPV4S. More power and better features than the IPV4S.

 

[thailand]

I have the iPV4s, and I love it. Solid device for me, and I like the features it has. Sigelei has a great reputation also.
Honestly, one of those 2 would be a great choice.
Good luck!

 

[NhatNguyen]

Single battery. No support for titanium coils. Firmware non-upgradeable.


Not a Temperature Control mod at all.


Dual battery TC mod with upgradable firmware and support for titanium coils. The IPV4 was the original but had a design flaw which made it unsafe. The IPV4S is the updated version which has redesigned the board underneath the 510 connector. It also has the upgraded firmware preinstalled so it has more power and support for titanium coils out of the box.


Considering the "Temperature Control Mode" is an optional software update that you have to pay for and download to make it work, and the fact that their "Temperature Control" M80 doesn't work I wouldn't even consider this mod.


The IPV3 does not have Temperature Control. The IPV3 Li is the Temperature Control mod. It's basically the big brother to the IPV4S. More power and better features than the IPV4S.

Now, I understood all of them. Thanks for your information. I decided to buy IPV3 li. Thank you again