Help for a new user ? Innokin cool fire 1

[Tom Skals]

Hi guys and girls. I am new to the forum, but have been vaping for around 6 months or so.
I had a innokin cool fire 2 that broke down. So i thought i would try my luck with the innokin cool fire1. Also got an extension for it to accomendate 18650 batteries. i wanted the more vape time out of it...
I have a problem though, when inserting a 18650 batt in the e-cig, i can press the button 3 times to activate it, but when trying to vape, the e-cig turns off after 1-2 seconds, and wont turn on again, until i re seat the battery... but the same happens again..
I wondered why that is ? and i tried a new battery. Now i have 3. but none of them work...
It works fine if i out in 2x 18350 batteries. but id like it to work with the 18650's

The batteries i have tried are
2x Ultrafire 18650 3.7 3600 mah (protected)
1x noname 18650 3.7v 22mah (no idea if protected)
The Clearomizer is a iclear 30s with a 2.1ohm coil...

Any ideas ?

 

[WerkzInc]

Your problem may be with using protected batteries. I'm not familiar with the cool fire I know it's variable wattage.?or voltage. Many mods that aren't mechs already have protection built in, so you may want to check that out. Check if the noname batt is the same height as the others. I know it's a cheap way to check bit may help you know if it's protected

 

[Tom Skals]

The 2 batteries seems to be 'almost' the same size. there is a little difference in length (about 0.5mm)

The e-cig i have have this on the 'info' on the manufacturer's site

Supports 18350 batteries - maximum current output is more than 5000mA.

Rated power of 8.5W, which is perfectly suitable for 2.1 ohm iClear dual coil clearomizers.

Reverse Battery Protection Circuit.

Built in 7A fuse for protection and stability.

Short Circuit Protection.


-Built in 7A fuse for protection and stability // Does this mean i only can use non protected batteries ?

One of my friends also spoke about sub-ohm batteries that can explode if i use them in my e-cig. Now i am a bit 'scared' to go buy a new battery cause i dont know if i can see if a battery is sub-ohm.... Any help or info on that matter ?

 

[Rsunderl]

Hi Tom and welcome aboard!

For info on batteries Baditude has several excellent blog posts on the subject. His blogs on battery safety are a must read before you venture into the world of sub-ohm vaping.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/for...ected-icr.html

Reliable sources for batteries:
Batteries-Chargers-Flashlights-Only The Best
Authentic AW Batteries - RTD Vapor
Illumn.com - Flashlights, Batteries, Carry Gear, Intelligent LED Lighting, and More!

Do not buy batteries from eBay or Amazon. Some of their third party sellers sell fakes.

... and finally, here's a link that explains things in pretty simple terms: Vaping Battery Safety & Ohms Law Illustrated and explained in very simple terms


Hope that helps and Happy, Safe Vaping!

 

[Tom Skals]

But does sub ohm vaping even have anything to do with what i am doing ?
I use the coils that came with the iclear 30s.. it have a 2.1 ohm coil as far as i know....

 

[BOX MOD LYFE]

Subohming is vaping at under an ohm. So you are fine. As for your problem, innokin says that you have to use a flat top 18650 imr battery , an unprotected one. (This info came from innokins Facebook account)

 

[DingerCPA]

Tom, welcome. Not so much with sub-ohmming or not, but it's the concept of the replaceable batteries. Generally, most regulated mods should use UN-protected batteries (at least in the regulated mods, some protection is built-in as you'd mentioned in the specs.)

rsunderl has offered some great links for your review. I'm relatively "new" to the replaceable battery scene. So many folks on this forum have steered me away from batteries with the word "fire" in it (Trustfire, Ultrafire, etc.) Same with battery chargers. I read the articles posted by Baditude over and over, and I still am careful with what I purchase and how I use them.

The protected batteries are a little longer due to the built-in circuitry that comes with the battery. I tend toward the Purple Efest (but be careful - even though they have a rating, that's more of a pulse rating, and not continuous discharge so I consider my safety net no more than half the "rated" value.) Samsung-R25, AWR, authentic Sony VTC3/4/5s are all viewed highly here in the forums.

Hope this helps

 

[Tom Skals]

Ok, so it seems i need to find some new batteries for my mod. Im having a hard time finding batteries that isnt protected. (maybe the sites just dont say if it is protected or not)
The site im usually buying from is pink-mule.com
Can anyone help me find some good batteries on that site, that would work ?

 

[Topwater Elvis]

Check out RTD vapor for authentic batteries from a reputable dealer / vendor.
All regulated APV's should use unprotected high drain IMR / hybrid ' safer ' chemistry batteries with a suffeciant continuous discharge rate (expressed in amps) that the manufacturer of the APV or chipset inside recommends.

 

[BOX MOD LYFE]

Use rtd or illumn. Typically if it is a protected battery it will say ICR and if it isn't it will say IMR. The Samsung 25r is a great battery that you can usually get for $6 at illumn.

 

[DingerCPA]

Tom, if you need the 18350's, try this: 18350 The purple Efest or the AW IMR (better choice) should work. I'm not sure if you're required to get the flat-tops or not (that's what I use in all my mods)

 

[Tom Skals]

Tom, if you need the 18350's

Im not really looking for 18350's as i have 4 of them already, but it just is so annoying to change batteries all the time if i am not at home, thats why i want the 18650's
The only problem with RTDvapor is it seems to be limited to only shipping in the states.

How high amp output will you guys recommend for batteries in my case ?