HELP for a newbie

[Baums]

Hi everyone. I need help from some of you veterans. My friend recently started using ecigs and has had mixed reviews. It drove me here and I have done a lot of reading on the boards, maybe in a bad way. Seems like there is SO much to take in and comprehend. Cartomizer, clearmorizer, tank, ce2, ce3, bigger, smaller. I am lost.

Background for your help. I have been smoking since college. I am now 35. I used to smoke about a pack a day of Marlboro lights. I had a daughter last year who has a severe congenital heart disease. She had surgery at a month old and will need more. This has pushed me to quit. I can't smoke knowing she has a fight on her hands while I destroy my body. I have gotten down to about a half back of Marlboro Ultra lights but can't kick it. This has lead me here, and hopefully someone would be willing to help.

Can you recommend what I should buy? Are the smaller ones ok for the amount I smoke. Should I get a larger battery to start just because from what I read thats where most go in the long run? My buddy started with blu e cig which he hated. He bought a smoov rev (?) locally and says its much better. Read mixed reviews on both of those as well. I don't even really see them mentioned here. So if you could take the time and help me out I would greatly appreciate it. I want to take the first step in living a healthier life. And save money for my daughter's bills. Ten bucks a pop in NY adds up quick. Thank you.

 

[daPorkchop]

Do you want a 'mod' or a cigarette look/feel - a - like?

I started with the mystic's (look-a-like) from Walmart, but wanted them to start lasting all day instead of having to charge every hour or so. So I upgraded to an eGo Twist 1000 mAh and a eGo Passthrough 650 mAh. The passthrough allows me to vape all day when I'm at my computer, in my work truck, or near a wall outlet. The Twist allows me to vape on the go for longer periods of time. I use low resistance cartomizers on the passthrough (because it puts out 3.7v) and use anything on the twist because i can change the voltage (which allows for hotter/cooler hits depending on the juice). I also got a ViVi nova as my tank. So

650 mAh eGo Passthrough
1000 mAh eGo Twist
Vivi Nova (comes with 1.8, 2.4, and 2.8 ohm resistor heads - which allows me to use it on either)
2.4 ohm Kanger Cartomizers.

For the juice there is soooooo many vendors that all have great products. I started with Rawrvapor.com and loved them, but had to go with cheaper juice at mtbakervapor, not that either is better. They both have their pros and cons.

 

[WeedyBroccoliBee]

I wish I could help, but I'm new to this too. I just wanted to wish you good luck! You can do it!!
I started out with a small cig type and it just didn't do it for me, I moved on to a Kgo and ego and that did the trick My hubs on the other hand doesn't like the ego, he sticks with the small cig type.. although he still hasn't completely quit. I think what I'm trying to say is you may have to try different things out until you find out what you like.

 

[Plumes.91]

I'd say if you don't completely cringe at an eGo, then get an eGo spinner. 400mah or 650mah are sized well.
If you can avoid throwing money at cig-alikes, then do it at all costs.

 

[DesmondTheMoonbear]

I would suggest an ego twist and a vivi nova clearomizer to any n00b. They're a great jumping off point and will give you all the interchangeability you could ask for, which will help you figure out how you like your vape and where you want to go from there.

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[Baums]

Thanks for the feedback. daPorkchop that stuff you mentioned is where I am getting a little lost. When you talk about ohms and such. With the amount I smoke maybe the passthrough will suffice. Do you use cartomizers with that or is that a tank. I went to the ego site and it seemed they are all tank?

 

[Baums]

Are ego twist and spinner considered the same thing? I googled them and they look similar but I am also not totally sure what I am looking at

 

[DesmondTheMoonbear]

The vision spinner is considered by most to be a twist knock off. I can't speak to this as I've only tried the twist, but i love it and still use it even after buying My nice expensive mod (;

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[DesmondTheMoonbear]

Thanks for the feedback. daPorkchop that stuff you mentioned is where I am getting a little lost. When you talk about ohms and such. With the amount I smoke maybe the passthrough will suffice. Do you use cartomizers with that or is that a tank. I went to the ego site and it seemed they are all tank?

The ego kits are generally going to come with their own tank system which i grew out of fast. I would just buy an ego twist battery by itself with a charger and a vivi nova

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[Baums]

Desmond sorry for being dumb atm. Do you have a link to what you are talking about?

 

[malhaku]

I just switched from analog equivalents (ecigs that look like actual cigs) last week. I got exactly what Desmond recommends in his post (twist batter and a vivi nova clearomizer). It's working great for me.

 

[daPorkchop]

Thanks for the feedback. daPorkchop that stuff you mentioned is where I am getting a little lost. When you talk about ohms and such. With the amount I smoke maybe the passthrough will suffice. Do you use cartomizers with that or is that a tank. I went to the ego site and it seemed they are all tank?

Ok, sorry to confuse. I hope to not get to technical. So what happens with an ecig is there is a coil in there that heats up and evaporates the juice to turn the juice into vapor that you can inhale and exhale. Because this is all relative to you, if you want a warm vape, you want more watts a the coil. So in order to do that, you want either more volts or less resistance. With a normal mod (ecig) with no variable voltage, it will put out between 4.2 (fully charged), 3.7 (nominal) and 3.4 (almost empty) (if the mod doesn't have a regulator, if it has a regulator it tries to put out a constant 3.7v -ish). So that is where the resistance comes into play. Follow? Man I hope so. Let me just link you what I would suggest.

I am also only linking this vendor because this is where I got my first hardware and it was a great experience. No problems...how much better can that get.

Joyetech Joye eGo-C Upgrade Passthrough 650mAh
Vision Vivi Nova Tank System - Metal Tube - I linked the metal tube because some juices do tend to crack plastic (citrus & cinnamon mostly) - The point of the clear plastic ones would be to see your juice level. This comes with a 1.8, 2.4, and 2.8ohm resistance head. With a 3.7v device I uses the 1.8 ohm.
Joyetech Joye 510 Atomizer - This will allow you to drip your juice to try it instead of just dumping a bunch in your vivi nova and not liking it, then having to clean it out.
510 Boge Cartomizer - 5 Pack - If you get the passthrough I would get the low reistance. The cartomizers are so you can have other juice around without having to change juice in your vivi nova (tank).

Tank holds a lot of juice. Vivi Nova is a kind of tank. It's a tank in the sense it holds more than just 1ml of juice (which is what standard carto's usually hold). It is also a rebuildable atomizer. Which, right now...it's that much of a concern for you. Right now we just want to get you vaping comfortably so you don't go back to analogs anytime soon.

Keep asking im here for another hour or so.

 

[bizmitchel]

wouldn't consider myself as a vet; however I would have to agree with Desmond, I would pick up two ego twist batteries a charger and a vivi nova. Ego's distributor site has links to their registered venders and thats where I would start. There is quiet a few knock off brands on the market that made out of inferior materials and don't last long so thats where I would start your journey.I just purchased my mom this same setup to begin vaping with earlier this week.

 

[Baums]

Malhaku we are close. I am from Buffalo. What was your take on the two setups? Pros and cons of the two. Thanks a ton.

 

[Boiler]

SweetVapes has a twist kit you can check out - nice all in one:
http://www.sweet-vapes.com/shop?page=shop.product_details&flypage=vmj_color_plus.tpl&product_id=1523&category_id=53

 

[Baums]

Awesome daPorkchop! Very informative. Now a question for comparison sake. What is the difference between the passthrough from ego or the twist the others are talking about. Any pros or cons? Also, are these setups things you can take out. Like to a bar, or are they too big? Thanks guys you are really helping me a ton!

 

[DesmondTheMoonbear]

That kit boiler posted its looking right on the money, as long as everything is genuine. It seems a tad pricey to me but i haven't even figured in the math so I'm not sure

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[Baditude]

Batteries (need two)
AltSmoke.com | Personal Vaporizers | Electronic Cigarette | Ecigs | eGo Spinner Variable Voltage Battery


Batter charger (need at least one)
AltSmoke.com | Personal Vaporizers | Electronic Cigarette | Ecigs | eGo Series - USB Battery Charger

Wall adaptor (optional; may need for charging batteries when not near a computer.)
AltSmoke.com | Personal Vaporizers | Electronic Cigarette | Ecigs | eGo-C - USB Wall Adapter


Juice Deliver Devices: (Suggest a variety to try at first; everyone likes something different.)


Cartomizers (need 5)
AltSmoke.com | Personal Vaporizers | Electronic Cigarette | Ecigs | Smok Tech Single Coil Black Cartomizers 1.7 ohm, 2.0 ohm, 2.5 ohm, 3.2 ohm



Clearomizers (need two)
AltSmoke.com | Personal Vaporizers | Electronic Cigarette | Ecigs | Vision Clearomizer - AltSmoke


Mini Vivi Nova tank (need one)
http://altsmoke.com/accessories/tanks/vision-vivi-tanks/vision-vivi-replacement-coil-tank-kit.html
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A crash course in a picture dictionary of common juice carrying devices:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/cartomizers/343294-proper-terminology-carto-tank-what-lol.html#post7562212

Article explain ohms, resistance, voltage, and watts in an understandable way. Includes the Safe Vaping Power Chart for use with a variable voltage battery:

Guide to Safe Vaping - E-Cigarette Safety | Ecig Advanced Community Blog

Juice is a whole other topic.

 

[daPorkchop]

The passthrough is basically a 650mAh eGo that has the charging port at the bottom. Allowing you to vape and charge at the same time. If you are near a plug (cigarette light, wall socket, computer) you won't run out of battery. It also has a 650mAh battery so you can unplug and walk around to vape. The con would be that it is a single voltage battery. Meaning it puts out 3.7 - 3.9 (regulated) volts. You can't adjust it. So you would have to buy cartomizers, tanks, atomizers at the desired resistance. Since you don't know the desired resistance yet, the Vivi Nova comes with 3 resistance levels. Then you can make a judgement on what your preferred setup is.

The ego twist is a variable voltage (VV) device. 3.2v to 4.8v. Meaning you can buy whatever (for the most part) resistance atomizer, cartomizer, tank you want. Also some juices are better vaped at different temperatures. IE coffee juice I do like to vape at higher temperatures. With a VV i can through it in any carto/tank/atty and adjust the voltage to my liking. Of course the con would be that the charger is the connector where the carto/tank/atty sit (the passthrough can be charged this way too). And costs a smidge more.

Edit: Baditude's picture post is very informative too.

Edit x2: Also, just a heads up. These passthrough's are not true 'passthrough's'. They are charge and vape. So if you start looking for true passthroughs (ones without batteries) those are not recommended to hook up to a computer because they draw too much current and you computer won't handle it. The charge and vape are fine because the charger has a max charge of 500mAh. (Genuine ones anyway).

Edit x3: Lol...make sure your charger for the twist (and the like) is 4.2v output.

 

[DesmondTheMoonbear]

Awesome daPorkchop! Very informative. Now a question for comparison sake. What is the difference between the passthrough from ego or the twist the others are talking about. Any pros or cons? Also, are these setups things you can take out. Like to a bar, or are they too big? Thanks guys you are really helping me a ton!

Edit: porkchop beat me to it

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