HELP Girlfriend (nonsmoker) wants a PV

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latexyankee

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So here's the deal,

My gf of 18 months has now stated that she is getting an ecig whether I help her or not. I've been vaping for 4 years and have thrown at least 3k into this ''hobby''.

She has been smoke free for 3 years buy her own will, she smoked for about 6 years beforehand. she refuses to listen to me any more about how she may quit ecigs and go back to smoking. she has no temptation to smoke but wants to vape very bad now saying it's because of stress. I have refused to help her for the past few months in finding a device, now she says shes going to a local B&M to get advice there.

I don't know why someone would even want the temptation of smoking when they've been clean that long without vaping. what happens when she runs out of juice? Or discovers that her device now sucks? Or starts getting dry hits and can't find the time to fiddle with it? Or she can't find a ADV and starts smoking a few stinkies a day? The sensation of vaping is akin to smoking and it is very easy to fall of the wagon when your a newbie and inexperienced.

I feel responsible for all this as I'm casually puffing away all day long. We have 2 little girls living with us and what do you think they will see with both of us puffing away on the couch? Ive smoked throughout my daughters life (she is 6) and now shes sees me vape and I still explain to her that it's not a good thing to do. My gf has a 2 year old and she doesnt know the difference, but both of the girls look up to her so much because she is a woman. I feel that if she starts vaping too the kids will be smoking at 13 and will have learned by example.

she doesnt understand that vaping is just as addicting as smoking but (hopefully) healthier. I feel that I either need to quit vaping and sell my stash or break things off, I don't think she will listen to me anymore and will just try to hide it from me. stressed.

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You want to break up with her bc she wants to vape instead of smoke?? Wait.. let me re-read.. i surely must have missed something

She hasnt smoked since I met her, she hasn't smoked in years, why start vaping now and have it possibly turn into smoking again? Why risk it? Why ruin the streak and accomplishments you made?

skyztheLynnit if you woke up tomorrow and all your stash was gone and ecigs had vanished from the earth are you confident you wouldnt buy a pack? Why chance that?

Am I being that irrational?
 

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Your girlfriend is an adult and can make her own decisions.

Suggest she try flavored zero-nicotine liquid. The physical hand/mouth aspects of vaping might be enough for her.

In terms of examples to your daughters, why do you think it's okay for you to vape but not okay for her? (Good try with the 'they look up to her because she's a woman' but it doesn't hold water.)

That you would even consider breaking up with her for taking up a hobby you freely admit you enjoy yourself seems a bit...odd.

She'll only 'hide' it from you if you continue harping on it.
 
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You do have a third choice. Help her pick out a decent vaping kit and find some 0 nic juice. If she is going to do it with or without you then far better to see her set up decently. Who knows what head games she is dealing with if stress is triggering it. She might just flat miss the inhaling and exhaling of smoking but not the cigs themselves.

If you think its a bad example for the kids then it is a bad example from either of you. Why do you get a pass on it and she doesn't? Are you sure it isn't just you wanting to keep your hobby for yourself? Understandable if you do since it has been solely yours so long. Maybe a bit more thought is needed though on why YOU feel how you do about her vaping.

You would really break off a relationship because shes going to vape? Something else has to be going on here.
 

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I re-read. I'm attacking your post, not you. Your post is hypocritical and you should help her.

I understand that, I really do. However the only way to ''help'' her is to get her back on an addiction that may or may not have harmful consequences. I'm trying to help by urging her to not proceed knowing it's not worth it.
 

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You do have a third choice. Help her pick out a decent vaping kit and find some 0 nic juice. If she is going to do it with or without you then far better to see her set up decently. Who knows what head games she is dealing with if stress is triggering it. She might just flat miss the inhaling and exhaling of smoking but not the cigs themselves.

If you think its a bad example for the kids then it is a bad example from either of you. Why do you get a pass on it and she doesn't? Are you sure it isn't just you wanting to keep your hobby for yourself? Understandable if you do since it has been solely yours so long. Maybe a bit more thought is needed though on why YOU feel how you do about her vaping.

You would really break off a relationship because shes going to vape? Something else has to be going on here.

I do NOT get a pass. Never meant it to sound that selfish. I'm on year 4 of a 5 year vape plan have tapered down from 24mg to 6mg. I am as guilty as can be but adding another just makes it that much more acceptable to kids. Think like a child. Yes?
 

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I understand that, I really do. However the only way to ''help'' her is to get her back on an addiction that may or may not have harmful consequences. I'm trying to help by urging her to not proceed knowing it's not worth it.

To be blunt, it doesn't sound like you're 'urging' her, it sounds like you're demanding that she not take up vaping because you know 'it's not worth it' (while you sit there vaping away).
 

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Would you rather she picked up cigarettes first??? That's what it sounds like.
You won't help her avoid dry hits or help her find an ADV. You insist on setting her up to fail until she picks up cigarettes again and only then will you help her vape right.

Ex-smoker is not the same as non-smoker. It's not like she would be picking up a new habit and using ecigs "to learn how to smoke".
Sounds to me like she is wanting ecigs to keep from smoking because of stress.
I went back to cigarettes after 2 years without, back to PAD like I had never stopped. I know someone who after 20+ years without went back to smoking, she was thinking about getting an ecig for the next time (which from the sounds of it meant she fighting the urge presently after about a year since her fall).
 

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I do NOT get a pass. Never meant it to sound that selfish. I'm on year 4 of a 5 year vape plan have tapered down from 24mg to 6mg. I am as guilty as can be but adding another just makes it that much more acceptable to kids. Think like a child. Yes?

What addiction? 0 nic?

Think like an ex smoker yes? She is obviously missing something. If that continues to be denied her resolve to stay quit will crack. DO you want her vaping zero mg now or smoking again later and have to go through the whole quitting nightmare all over? Believe me I know about quitting for years and stress sets off the chain reaction that starts the cigs again. She is trying to head that off at the pass.

As for thinking like a child it is NO different for you than it is for her.
 

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Also in agreement with all the above posters^^^^. If my wife wanted to start vaping now, even after being smoke free for almost 20 years, I'd make sure she got a good starter kit with 0 nic juice. There's a mess of flavors that I know she'd enjoy without a bit of nic. In addition, I quit for 10+ years & went back to smoking due to stress. If I had the vape option, I probaly would have gone that route 6 years ago.
 
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She hasnt smoked since I met her, she hasn't smoked in years, why start vaping now and have it possibly turn into smoking again? Why risk it? Why ruin the streak and accomplishments you made?

skyztheLynnit if you woke up tomorrow and all your stash was gone and ecigs had vanished from the earth are you confident you wouldnt buy a pack? Why chance that?

Am I being that irrational?

Yes, yes you are being extremely irrational.

She's going to go back to smoking because she vapes. Your kids are going to smoke because she vapes (but somehow not because you vape). You're going to break up with her because she vapes, which you also do. You're not going to help her get it right so she will fall into every irrational trap you've set to force her back to smoking. All the ecigs are going to magically vanish.
That is not the voice of rationality.
 

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You're assuming she will go back to cigarettes if she takes up vaping.. you've vaped for four years.. have you ever woken up and all of YOUR vaping gear vanished?

I know if it did I would buy a carton.Perhaps you are not sure of the grip vaping has on you? Most of us, I would say 75% of people on this forum would buy cigs tomorrow if everything disappeared. Why get accustomed to sensation of smoking again and addiction to nicotine if you've been so strong for so long?

I am not taking any comments as rude or insensitive. I posted knowing I would get a series of opinions and thats what I'm looking for. I'm not trying to be selfish or unfair. Maybe I just don't understand and I want to protect what and who I love.
 

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Adults can make there own decisions. She may feel the need & as a free human she has the right. Support her! Encourage her to make her own choice. Would you rather her smoke out of spite? Or share a vape bonding session? If she chooses to vape, think of it as another way to bring you closer, not an excuse to drive you apart
 

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im glad the answer was so obvious to everyone else as it was to me.

rahter then fight her on it and stress her out even more, (your good intentions are surely doing a lot more harm then good.) get her a good set up.

your worried about her getting dry hits and getting frustrated with it? you have been vaping for almost 5 years, does she not have the best help she could possibly have right there under the same roof???? :facepalm:

and seeing as your almost 5 years in im assuming your making your own juice now..? would it be so hard to whip her up some 0mg? your at 6mg now maybe you guys should try to go to 0mg together. sounds like a good idea to me.

if you spent all this energy helping her rather then fighting her, you know how happy she would be with you?.

i think your looking at this all wrong.
 
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