Help! I am a noob to all this. Have my eye on the ego c twist but is it really a good e cig to start with?

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Once again thank toy everyone for all the advice. I'm looking at sites right now trying to find everything I need / want on one site. An before I big anything I'm goin to make a list of what I am buying an from what site. That way if I left anything out I can I can just add it on. I also wanna make sure I don't order a ego clone or anything.

Just a side note I think I'm goin to order a take setup and I want a drip tip. So what I was thinking was to order a kit and then order extra stuff on the side. Hopefully this way would be less expensive. I just have a hard time finding the pink one in a kit.

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I don't have a twist, but look at the prices both ways. I stopped ordering kits after my first one, unless there is a good discount. I care more about color, size, getting what I want, NOT getting what I don't want. A $5 discount on a kit that contains $5 worth of attys won't help me, I don't want attys. There is nothing special about kits unless it is what you want AND you are getting a price break.

You asked a question about performance. There are several factors in performance. One is wattage (NOT voltage or resistance alone, but the result of (volts X volts)/resistance

That means with a twist you can adjust for different types of cartos, clearos, tanks, attys, whatever. I've read several different recommendations for watts, some say 5-8 watts is the best, some say 6-8, some say 7-9. It is pretty-well agreed that much over 9 is dangerous, and there is a sticky thread about battery safety that I read, and recommend.

Also, rumor has it (I'm relatively new) that pg carries flavors better and vg makes more vapor, so if you tolerate both, you can figure out what balance is good.

DO NOT buy large bottles of juice until AFTER you have vaped some sampler kids or friends' juice or something and know what you want. Order small to start.

So, as someone who does not know all about this but has spent too much money on oopsies, that is my $0.02 :2c:
 

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For those clearomizers, do you recommend the 2.4 ohm or the 2.8 ohm for the Twist?


I don't recommend less than 2.0 ohms.

The 2.4 ohm will allow 4.3 watts to 9.6 watts

the 2.8 ohm will allow 3.7 watts to 8.3 watts

I recommend the 2.4 ohm so that it is capable of going up to 9.6 watts. Both are acceptable and each have their advantages.
 

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Hrm, is it possible to crank up the voltage on the 2.8 ohm or will it just make the vape burn?

The numbers I gave are for the 3.2 to 4.8 voltage range of the Twist. It is not possible to go higher or lower than those numbers with the Twist because that is the complete voltage range.

Burning the juice depends on the juice; how thick it is, how well it wicks, how well the clearo wicks, as well as the voltage, etc.
 

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Oh I see. Damn, now I'm thinking maybe I should just break down and buy a stainless vtube.

Im a noob too but I have been looking around. Here are some PV's that caught my eye. The itaste iTaste VV, Newest Variable Voltage Electronic Cigarette, Top VV Brand - Best Electronic Cigarette | New Ecig Starter Kit| E Cig Manufacturer , ego vv battery iTaste VV, Newest Variable Voltage Electronic Cigarette, Top VV Brand - Best Electronic Cigarette | New Ecig Starter Kit| E Cig Manufacturer , JL88 LCD Ego JL88 LCD eGo , ego-v6 (4v-5v-6v) eGo-V6 (4V-5V-6V) , ego c twist If you look at my other thread I have two kit links there for the twist, and some users have given some useful info & some have posted links an built a kit for a good price. Here's the link to the other thread http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...r-kit-right-me-i-am-not-missing-anything.html (Just so you know I did order the twist but have not received it yet so I cannot say how I like it. Also the links i have provided for PV's are not ones I have tried just ones that caught my eye. If you are interested in one look to someone more experienced for tips and advise.)
 

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This person has done some excellent shopping for you! I tried to find everything at one place and they were usually out of stock in some item or another.

The atomizer will give you a chance to try dripping. The 306 is a great atty! It is LR so use it at lower voltages.

If you are concerned about the size of the Twist you may want to order a 650 and a 1000mah so you have one of each. If you are more concerned about battery time between charges then get 2 of the 1000mah. You may want to add an extra charger just so you have a backup. Always have a backup!

The site listed above gives you much more flexibility than buying a kit and then adding to that. Buy what you want!
I had just purchased a pair of ego twist 1000 mah and then today i ran across this thread and seen something on the list i thought i might need/want. It's the Low Resistance (LR) Atomizer - 306. Seeing this i went and ordered myself one. Then i was on the chat option and asked about what the thoughts was about this being used on my ego twist and the remarks was NOT to use it being it might harm my battery.
So my question is,, Can i use it just from time to time to test flavors and such and not harm my battery or should i avoid using it all together?
Yes i am new to vaping and from the first puff off my $20 e-cig kit bought at the smokeShop i have NOT had a tobacco cigarette in 2 weeks. So if the 306 is wrong for my device then i'll put it away and maybe someone i know will be able to use it some day. I look at it as I'd rather spend my money on something other then tobacco even if i cant use it,, well to a point,lol.
I think i just rambled a bit,, but my question is,, Will the Low Resistance (LR) Atomizer - 306 be ok to use on my ego twist 1000 mah? I have also ordered a eGo XL 900mAh Battery (for a spare)but it has not arrived as of today,, monday i hope, would it be better to use the Low Resistance (LR) Atomizer 306 on that?
Thank you and have a nice evening,,Robert


NOTE: Any and all advice is greatly appreciated.

After posting this i see that i have quoted the reply to the comment i intended to quote. Sorry for the mix up on that .
 
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I think you'll like the Twist. I started with a 650mAh eGo PassThrough, moved up to a 1000mAh eGo PassThrough, then moved on up to a 1000mAh Twist. I'm loving the Twist, and plan to place an order for another one from Vicki at www.cignot.com ... that's where I've gotten all my stuff, the prices are good, and the delivery is lightening fast. I'm currently vaping the Turkish Tobacco Blended 100% VG, 25mg, with a Joye 510 atty, 2.3 ohms @ 4V on the twist ... excellent!
 

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I had just purchased a pair of ego twist 1000 mah and then today i ran across this thread and seen something on the list i thought i might need/want. It's the Low Resistance (LR) Atomizer - 306. Seeing this i went and ordered myself one. Then i was on the chat option and asked about what the thoughts was about this being used on my ego twist and the remarks was NOT to use it being it might harm my battery.
So my question is,, Can i use it just from time to time to test flavors and such and not harm my battery or should i avoid using it all together?
Yes i am new to vaping and from the first puff off my $20 e-cig kit bought at the smokeShop i have NOT had a tobacco cigarette in 2 weeks. So if the 306 is wrong for my device then i'll put it away and maybe someone i know will be able to use it some day. I look at it as I'd rather spend my money on something other then tobacco even if i cant use it,, well to a point,lol.

I think i just rambled a bit,, but my question is,, Will the Low Resistance (LR) Atomizer - 306 be ok to use on my ego twist 1000 mah? I have also ordered a eGo XL 900mAh Battery (for a spare)but it has not arrived as of today,, monday i hope, would it be better to use the Low Resistance (LR) Atomizer 306 on that?
Thank you and have a nice evening,,Robert


NOTE: Any and all advice is greatly appreciated.

After posting this i see that i have quoted the reply to the comment i intended to quote. Sorry for the mix up on that .

I think you'll like the Twist. I started with a 650mAh eGo PassThrough, moved up to a 1000mAh eGo PassThrough, then moved on up to a 1000mAh Twist. I'm loving the Twist, and plan to place an order for another one from Vicki at www.cignot.com ... that's where I've gotten all my stuff, the prices are good, and the delivery is lightening fast. I'm currently vaping the Turkish Tobacco Blended 100% VG, 25mg, with a Joye 510 atty, 2.3 ohms @ 4V on the twist ... excellent!
I'm very pleased with the Twist even though i have only used it on the low volt setting 3.2 and only turned it up a couple of times as a test. As for juice i have been using strawberry 24mg and 510 lr cartamizers and it works very well. I have orders in route at the moment for many other flavors, like 20 or so. I made something of a mistake and let my wife pick some flavors and i just entered the billing info and after reviewing her choice's i got the feeling we are going to have a lot of unused juice around for a while, hahaha. Banana nut bread and cotton candy to name a couple?
Then again there might be a flavor i like as well as the strawberry. The only reason i started with strawberry is my wife had gotten one of those 7 buck disposable eCigs in strawberry flavor and it had a nice flavor.
This sort of the reason i wanted to get the 306 LR atomizer and drip tip so i could try some flavors without having to fill a cartamizer with a flavor i might not like.
So my question still stands, Will the 306 LR atomizer /drip tip work on the ego twist 1000 mah or the ego XL 900 mah without any harm to the battery?
Thank you Scott_Simpson for the reply and info on your choice of settings/flavor. I will give it a try in time.
 

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I had just purchased a pair of ego twist 1000 mah and then today i ran across this thread and seen something on the list i thought i might need/want. It's the Low Resistance (LR) Atomizer - 306. Seeing this i went and ordered myself one. Then i was on the chat option and asked about what the thoughts was about this being used on my ego twist and the remarks was NOT to use it being it might harm my battery.
So my question is,, Can i use it just from time to time to test flavors and such and not harm my battery or should i avoid using it all together?
Yes i am new to vaping and from the first puff off my $20 e-cig kit bought at the smokeShop i have NOT had a tobacco cigarette in 2 weeks. So if the 306 is wrong for my device then i'll put it away and maybe someone i know will be able to use it some day. I look at it as I'd rather spend my money on something other then tobacco even if i cant use it,, well to a point,lol.
I think i just rambled a bit,, but my question is,, Will the Low Resistance (LR) Atomizer - 306 be ok to use on my ego twist 1000 mah? I have also ordered a eGo XL 900mAh Battery (for a spare)but it has not arrived as of today,, monday i hope, would it be better to use the Low Resistance (LR) Atomizer 306 on that?
Thank you and have a nice evening,,Robert


NOTE: Any and all advice is greatly appreciated.

After posting this i see that i have quoted the reply to the comment i intended to quote. Sorry for the mix up on that .

Sorry I took so long to reply. I just got home. Your answer is in the product description.

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"Low Resistance (LR) Atomizer - 306
with 306 Delrin Drip Tip included!

The 306 atomizer is compatible with 510, eGo, eGo-T, and eGo-C batteries. Cartridges are not available for this model. However, a drip tip is included with each 306 atomizer.

Low Resistance (LR) Atomizer (approx. 2.1 ohms): These atomizers have a lower resistance than regular atomizers. LR atomizers run hotter and create more vapor than regular atomizers. They are meant for use with regular 3.7V batteries. We do not recommend using them with a high voltage (6V-7.4V) setup; this will shorten the lifespan of the LR atomizer significantly."

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LR can mean different things to different people. It is best to use the number of ohms when comparing things. These are not meant to be used with high voltages. They will be fine on the Twist at all voltages. I recommend not using lower than 2.0 ohm on the Twist and 2.2 or 2.4 are near the optimum for the Twist. These LR attys (2.1 ohm) can go to 4.8 volts and not exceed the amp limit of the Twist. You will know where the taste is best for you, probably between 3.5 and 4.0 volts.

I appreciate a vendor who provides info like this with their product. Most don't. As they say, they were meant to work well at 3.7 volts. Your taste will tell you where YOU like it.
 

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Before getting the ego twist you may want to check out the vtube (also known as the lavatube). It has 3 times the battery life and more range and options. Apollo ecigs has a 30% off sale on it right now. So with the discount, you get it for $52.50. The kit includes : 1 variable voltage regular (5 inches) or mini vtube(3.75 inches)
1 black Apollo Leather Carry Case, 1high capacity 18650 rechargeable battery for the Regular VTube, or 18350 for the Mini VTube, 1 battery charger, 1drip tip
1 3.0 ohm high resistance 510 atomizer

The ego is disposable, so after 250-300 charges you have to dump it. The vtube has replaceable batteries. It comes with a or 700mah battery and you can get a second battery for about $8

I suggest the larger one since its the same price.



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Before getting the ego twist you may want to check out the vtube (also known as the lavatube). It has 3 times the battery life and more range and options. Apollo ecigs has a 30% off sale on it right now. So with the discount, you get it for $52.50. The kit includes : 1 variable voltage regular (5 inches) or mini vtube(3.75 inches)
1 black Apollo Leather Carry Case, 1high capacity 18650 rechargeable battery for the Regular VTube, or 18350 for the Mini VTube, 1 battery charger, 1drip tip
1 3.0 ohm high resistance 510 atomizer

The ego is disposable, so after 250-300 charges you have to dump it. The vtube has replaceable batteries. It comes with a or 700mah battery and you can get a second battery for about $8

I suggest the larger one since its the same price.



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Actually, the Twist is rechargeable. Disposables are sold in gas stations for about a third the price of a Twist. It may be confusing to New Comers when the terms are interchanged to sway opinion.

When you have two Twists, you have two PVs. A V-Tube with two batteries is one PV. If it breaks you have no PV.

It is true that when new models come out, retailers have attractive prices to move their old stock. While it makes it easier to own, it does not change the limitations that they have or make them as good as the newer versions of the same make.

Anyone shopping for a PV should check everything that is available and then choose what best fits their needs and budget. Many people own a ProVari, a Twist, and a V-Tube (not to forget the iTaste) because they all offer similar performance but have different limitations due to price, size and requirements, limitations and have different options included.

Nobody can decide what is best for somebody else, we can only advise what is available and then let them decide.
 

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Sorry I took so long to reply. I just got home. Your answer is in the product description.

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"Low Resistance (LR) Atomizer - 306
with 306 Delrin Drip Tip included!

The 306 atomizer is compatible with 510, eGo, eGo-T, and eGo-C batteries. Cartridges are not available for this model. However, a drip tip is included with each 306 atomizer.

Low Resistance (LR) Atomizer (approx. 2.1 ohms): These atomizers have a lower resistance than regular atomizers. LR atomizers run hotter and create more vapor than regular atomizers. They are meant for use with regular 3.7V batteries. We do not recommend using them with a high voltage (6V-7.4V) setup; this will shorten the lifespan of the LR atomizer significantly."

* * * * *

LR can mean different things to different people. It is best to use the number of ohms when comparing things. These are not meant to be used with high voltages. They will be fine on the Twist at all voltages. I recommend not using lower than 2.0 ohm on the Twist and 2.2 or 2.4 are near the optimum for the Twist. These LR attys (2.1 ohm) can go to 4.8 volts and not exceed the amp limit of the Twist. You will know where the taste is best for you, probably between 3.5 and 4.0 volts.

I appreciate a vendor who provides info like this with their product. Most don't. As they say, they were meant to work well at 3.7 volts. Your taste will tell you where YOU like it.
Thank you very much for taking the time to reply to my question. As I'm sure it's obvious i am new to vaping and have lots to learn. There are some things that are best to learn the hard way, but when it comes to holding a battery in front of your face and breathing in a vapor i feel its best to ask as many questions as you can before hand.
You have provided me with a lot of information and from what i can understand with my limited learning ability you are saying Yes it will work with my ego twist.? I've been flooded with info for the last few days and i dont want to misunderstand. I've read your response several times and yes i am pretty sure the answer is yes, being i should not use anything lower then 2.0 and the 306 in question is 2.1 and the optimum for the twist is 2.2 or 2.4 and the max volt of the twist is 4.8 volt and the lr attys can go to 4.8 volt.
Thanks again for the info and have a nice evening,,Robert
 

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Actually, the Twist is rechargeable. Disposables are sold in gas stations for about a third the price of a Twist. It may be confusing to New Comers when the terms are interchanged to sway opinion.

When you have two Twists, you have two PVs. A V-Tube with two batteries is one PV. If it breaks you have no PV.

It is true that when new models come out, retailers have attractive prices to move their old stock. While it makes it easier to own, it does not change the limitations that they have or make them as good as the newer versions of the same make.

Anyone shopping for a PV should check everything that is available and then choose what best fits their needs and budget. Many people own a ProVari, a Twist, and a V-Tube (not to forget the iTaste) because they all offer similar performance but have different limitations due to price, size and requirements, limitations and have different options included.

Nobody can decide what is best for somebody else, we can only advise what is available and then let them decide.

I agree with everything you say except the disposable thing. Any PV where you can't change the battery without buying a new model is disposable. After about 250-300 charges, you toss the whole thing out, not just the battery. I am primarily a volt x2 user (same as the kgo with 808 threads). I can recharge the x2, just like the ego, kgo ego twist any many others. After 250-300 charges, we toss the whole thing out ($15-$40 depending on the size 650mah to 1300mah), threads, buttons and all. If you want to get specific, it's a rechargable disposable. The provari, lavatube, smoketech and others are not disposable at all. When the battery dies and can't be recharged anymore, you toss the battery ($8-$9 for up to 3000mah) and keep the PV itself. The vtube comes with a 1600mah battery and goes from 3.0v to 6.0v. The ego twist runs from $15 for a 650mah to $35 for a 1000mah, depending on where you get it and is only 3.2v-4.8v. So if you get the the 1000mah twist, you don't have nearly they power, battery life between charges or options as the the vtube. Yes,mits only $30-$35, but when the battery doesnt charge anymore, you have to spend another $30-$35. With the vtube, for $55 you get a bigger battery, the drip tip, charger, atty, case and the device is more powerful (thats $15 in extras so the device itself is only $40. When the battery is done, you spend $8-$9. Basically for $10 more, you get a device with more power, options and protection and a lot more battery life between charges.

Other than that, I agree 100%. We give suggestions, based on knowledge and experience.


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I agree with everything you say except the disposable thing. Any PV where you can't change the battery without buying a new model is disposable. After about 250-300 charges, you toss the whole thing out, not just the battery. I am primarily a volt x2 user (same as the kgo with 808 threads). I can recharge the x2, just like the ego, kgo ego twist any many others. After 250-300 charges, we toss the whole thing out ($15-$40 depending on the size 650mah to 1300mah), threads, buttons and all. If you want to get specific, it's a rechargable disposable. The provari, lavatube, smoketech and others are not disposable at all. When the battery dies and can't be recharged anymore, you toss the battery ($8-$9 for up to 3000mah) and keep the PV itself. The vtube comes with a 1600mah battery and goes from 3.0v to 6.0v. The ego twist runs from $15 for a 650mah to $35 for a 1000mah, depending on where you get it and is only 3.2v-4.8v. So if you get the the 1000mah twist, you don't have nearly they power, battery life between charges or options as the the vtube. Yes,mits only $30-$35, but when the battery doesnt charge anymore, you have to spend another $30-$35. With the vtube, for $55 you get a bigger battery, the drip tip, charger, atty, case and the device is more powerful (thats $15 in extras so the device itself is only $40. When the battery is done, you spend $8-$9. Basically for $10 more, you get a device with more power, options and protection and a lot more battery life between charges.

Other than that, I agree 100%. We give suggestions, based on knowledge and experience.


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I follow the logic of the post. If you pay more money, you can get more machine. I can't argue with that!

I used to pay $9.00 for 25 cigarettes, usually they wouldn't last all day, $20-$30 for something that may only last a year still seems like a bargain to me.
 

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eGo Twists 650 mah @ $22.00 each
Joye eGo-C Twist Variable Voltage 650mAh Battery
or
eGo Twists 1000 mah @ $26.00 each
Joye eGo-C Twist Variable Voltage 1000mAh Battery
and
Ecig Batteries

USB Charger- $6.75
eGo Rapid USB Charger

Wall Adapter- $6.25
Mini AC Wall to USB Converter

Atomizer- $5.95
Low Resistance (LR) Atomizer - 306

1 X 5 Pack Boge Standard Resistance Cartomizers- $6.95
510 Boge Cartomizer - 5 Pack

2 Clearomizers- $11.00
eGo CE4 PLUS V2 Clearomizer / Vision/ Stardust


The only difference in the packages below is the mah of the batts- completely up to you.
Package 1
2 X 650 Twists- $44.00
1 USB Charger- $6.75
1 Wall Adapter- $6.25
1 Atomizer- $5.95
1 X 5 Pack Boge Standard Resistance Cartomizers- $6.95
2 Clearomizers- $11.00

Package 2
2 X 1000 Twists- $52.00
1 USB Charger- $6.75
1 Wall Adapter- $6.25
1 Atomizer- $5.95
1 X 5 Pack Boge Standard Resistance Cartomizers- $6.95
2 Clearomizers- $11.00

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Looks like a good system with the 650 mAh batts for about $80 + some $ for liquids, I think you did an excellent job shopping. Or you can get one 650mAh and one 1000mAh, seem like that would be pretty versatile.

FWIW, I did see some kits with the twists, but they are out of stock most places I checked.
 

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The Twist is great to start with. If anything, it will give you great vaping and lead you to your next device. You will learn what you like and what you do not like which puts you ahead in the game when it comes time to buy your next device. I picked up 2 Twist batteries just to check them out and they are permanently in my rotation which includes the Provari v2, SB, and Prodigy.
 
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