Help me pick the right mix please

[sze5003]

I have been vaping for 2 weeks now on my Volt. I think I need to get some liquid. Smokeless Image uses 100% PG in their cartridges and my throat is sore as hell. I can barely talk today so I did not vape at all and am in a very grumpy state. I noticed that drinking lots of water while I take drags in helps but still makes the throat really really sore and uncomfortable.

What are some vendors I can try and what are the correct mixes of PG/VG that will let me feel like I am simulating a real cig but not give me the nasty burning throat as if I'm burning my tonsils off? Anyone have some experience with this?

 

[Egouser]

some people have negative reactions to PG maybe try a VG blend or at the very least a 50/50 blend of PG/VG ..also if your not using a tank system or dripping it could be your cart is not dispersing enough juice for the atomizer which is causing a harsh hit that irritates the throat ... just my thoughts .

 

[sze5003]

some people have negative reactions to PG maybe try a VG blend or at the very least a 50/50 blend of PG/VG ..also if your not using a tank system or dripping it could be your cart is not dispersing enough juice for the atomizer which is causing a harsh hit that irritates the throat ... just my thoughts .

So would it be wise to get some samplers, for example 1 with 100% VG and another with 50/50 and say another with 30/70 VG/PG?

I am just confused by all the ratios, I love this e-cig and its been helping me cut down my cravings, I use it less than when I started, and its convenient, I just hate dealing with feeling like I have strep throat all the time...which I don't since I confirmed with my Doc.

 

[Egouser]

So would it be wise to get some samplers, for example 1 with 100% VG and another with 50/50 and say another with 30/70 VG/PG?

I am just confused by all the ratios, I love this e-cig and its been helping me cut down my cravings, I use it less than when I started, and its convenient, I just hate dealing with feeling like I have strep throat all the time...which I don't since I confirmed with my Doc.

Honestly I think the first step would be to rule out your e cig causing the issue ... what kind of set up are you using ( some juices react differently in different setups ) I have had stuff I could not use on a cart but dripping it was great , other stuff I could not use in a tank but could drip it without issue ... some juice burns up faster than other juices and you get that harsh atomizer hit that will irritate the throat ... so lets first rule out juice delivery to the atomizer ( or rule it in ) ..tell us more about your current setup so we do not give you bad / wrong advise

 

[sze5003]

Honestly I think the first step would be to rule out your e cig causing the issue ... what kind of set up are you using ( some juices react differently in different setups ) I have had stuff I could not use on a cart but dripping it was great , other stuff I could not use in a tank but could drip it without issue ... some juice burns up faster than other juices and you get that harsh atomizer hit that will irritate the throat ... so lets first rule out juice delivery to the atomizer ( or rule it in ) ..tell us more about your current setup so we do not give you bad / wrong advise

I am using the Volt Pro kit. With the cartridges that it came with. Its an auto battery, I prefer the 2 piece sets rather than 3 because I don't want to worry about cleaning them and just doing the extra stuff. The Volt e cig is great it doesn't get too hot and it has good voltage. I just finished one carto and I am charging the battery but I will keep the carto so when I do get liquid I can refill it.

I was also using the Mistic e cig before the volt and that also burned my throat, it also contained PG at 18mg.

 

[Caridwen]

Maybe one step down in nicotine. You could experiment with that by adding a couple drops of VG in. See if the reduction in nicotine/adding some VG helps.

Are you using prefilled cartos? That might be the reason.

 

[NJC]

I have been vaping for 2 weeks now on my Volt. I think I need to get some liquid. Smokeless Image uses 100% PG in their cartridges and my throat is sore as hell.

SI uses 80/20 not 100% PG. Lower your Nic. Drink more water. Wait a few weeks to adjust a bit. You can try higher VG content from anyone, just be prepared to fight with with cartomizers a bit more in filling them. Also there is a dedicated SI sub-forum where you will get responses from others using the same equipment and possibly better recommendations.

 

[sze5003]

I see I saw somewhere on another thread that it was 100% pg. I know vg is thicker. I can probably pic up vegetable glyserin from a store and put two drops in and see how it is. I'll also try a sampler with less pg. There has to be something that worlds. What are some decent vendors that allow you to pick the content of each? I've been all over sites and it can be a little cumbersome at times when you are new.

And yes I am using prefilled cartos too. My next order will include blank cartos and some juice if I find a good vendor with probably 12mg nicotine.

 

[Caridwen]

It really could be you need to drink more water. My throat was dry/scratchy when I first started vaping, and water or SF cough drops really help.

I happen to like 80pg/20 but many like higher VG. It could be the prefilled cartos. To me they all seem a bit harsh. (never tried Volt cartos though).

 

[Snus]

I found that cinnamon bothered my throat a bit. Other than that, I haven't had any problems at all and I chain vape a lot! I usually like vg more than pg (I think)... I have been letting people try my ego and two of them have practically coughed their brains out on it. I think they were straight inhaling, though. What I do, is take it in my mouth and then inhale into my lungs...

See if you can find some USP Vegetable Glycerin at your local drugstore and add some. It will knock down the nic and flavor a bit, but it's a fast and inexpensive way to give it a go!

Good Luck!

 

[Egouser]

hmm , well for starters I am not a big fan of anything using carts ( to each their own though ) I prefer to drip or use a tank system I find I am getting a cleaner burn and more consistent vape and that is key for me ... any system that does not have juice directly in contact with the atomizer makes my throat a lil sore ... the most consistent vape I have got to date is by using the smoketek 510 tank system your first puff is as good and smooth as the 1,000th and you can get a new cartomizer for the inside of it for $2.50 ( and they last a month so cheap to upkeep ) http://www.dfwvapor.com/bfc-cartomizer.html $8.99 they work with any joy ego thread battery fill it with 6ml of juice and your good for 2 days ( maybe longer ) every puff is identical to the one before it ... I guess what I am trying to say is until you can make one puff the same as the one before it it will be difficult to determine what the real issue is but juice delivery is KEY and improper delivery esp not enough will make anyone's throat hurt in short carts do not deliver great consistency over all IMO

 

[Caridwen]

hmm , well for starters I am not a big fan of anything using carts ( to each their own though ) I prefer to drip or use a tank system I find I am getting a cleaner burn and more consistent vape and that is key for me ... any system that does not have juice directly in contact with the atomizer makes my throat a lil sore ... the most consistent vape I have got to date is by using the smoketek 510 tank system your first puff is as good and smooth as the 1,000th and you can get a new cartomizer for the inside of it for $2.50 ( and they last a month so cheap to upkeep ) http://www.dfwvapor.com/bfc-cartomizer.html $8.99 they work with any joy ego thread battery fill it with 6ml of juice and your good for 2 days ( maybe longer ) every puff is identical to the one before it ... I guess what I am trying to say is until you can make one puff the same as the one before it it will be difficult to determine what the real issue is but juice delivery is KEY and improper delivery esp not enough will make anyone's throat hurt in short carts do not deliver great consistency over all IMO

I'm not sure I understand what you're talking about. Are you talking about cartridges or cartomizers? You're using cartomizers in a tank and the OP is using cartomizers on their KR808.

I think we can probably help the OP find a way to make her juice a little less harsh without going out and buying a new pv and juice delivery system. Maybe just different juice.

 

[Ladypixel]

Wait a second here. You said you've been vaping for two weeks on the prefilled cartomizers that came with your kit.

How many prefilled cartomizers came with your kit? I ask this because frankly, a full cartomizer doesn't last me one day, much less a couple weeks.

You may be inhaling burning carto-filler, not nicotine or liquid.

 

[Caridwen]

From the Health and Safety section:

3. You may feel a sore throat, dry mouth, and/or cold-like symptoms. For most people this passes after about a week. Drinking more liquids may help. Note that these are common symptoms of quitting smoking2,3,4 related to tar. For a particular person they may or may not be aggravated by vaping.

 

[sze5003]

I'm a guy guys haha that was funny.."Make her cartomizers less harsh." The first week I had a different e-cig, Mistic from Walmart. It also had 18mg cartomizer on it with menthol. Also burned my throat. The first few days I coughed up a lot of junk from analog cigs.

The second week I got my Volt Kit with 5 cartomizers. 1 Cartomizer lasts me about 2 days. I can taste a significant difference when it is done. I don't vape that much because the nicotine is strong and a few puffs will last me all day but my habit of constantly having a cig makes me vape more, I will just need to reduce nicotine so I can vape as much as I used to smoke analogs.

I just picked up some Glycerin USP type from Walmart. Put bunch in the cartomizer and tried it out. There is more smoke, flavor did not decrease so much its still there, just a little more sweet. First few puffs were still stinging but then became much smoother and the throat hit was less than before. Now I guess what I feel is tingling from the nicotine hitting the tonsils still?

I don't think I will get pre filled cartomizers anymore. These were prefilled with Ryy4. I would rather get blanks and fill with my own juice so finding the right mixture is tough. If SI uses 80/20 PG/VG then maybe one or two steps down in the pg number?

 

[Ladypixel]

I'd say that increasing the VG in your setup will work if you just did that test. The tingling is pretty common for TH, but VG mellows it significantly, which might help.

(And whew, I was worried you might be vaping a dry carto. Glad to hear that isn't the case! You'd be far from the first I'd read about doing that.)

Get blanks, fill them with your own preferred juice. There's a whole lot of vendors out there who carry RY4 types, and there's actually a thread here (something like the RY4 Roundup or somesuch title) that goes down one person's reviews of some of the top blends. Different vendors have different house blends, but most vendors do have the option of adjusting juice. Try something in a 60 PG/40 VG blend, or 50/50, and you may find you do a bit better. I tend to be a middle-of-the-road blender myself... too much VG and it's too thick, too much PG and it's too dry, but a nice balance of both makes for a great vape.

 

[dlsw]

Hi! Sorry you have had a rough time, but it sounds like you may have found the culprit. Lots of places allow you to choose the pg/vg blend. ECBlend E-Liquids - Something Better allows you to customize flavor and vg/pg. Malty and Malty toffee from Backwoods Brew is delicious and is high in vg. The only suggestion that I have is to buy in small bottles in case you don't like it. If you like RY4, lots of vendors have it and you can request it in a high vg mix. Good luck!!!!

 

[sze5003]

Hi! Sorry you have had a rough time, but it sounds like you may have found the culprit. Lots of places allow you to choose the pg/vg blend. ECBlend E-Liquids - Something Better allows you to customize flavor and vg/pg. Malty and Malty toffee from Backwoods Brew is delicious and is high in vg. The only suggestion that I have is to buy in small bottles in case you don't like it. If you like RY4, lots of vendors have it and you can request it in a high vg mix. Good luck!!!!

Thanks, even with the Glycerin in the cartomizer I still feel a slight burn but not so much. I think it may be from nicotine being 18mg. But it could also be that my throat is still sore from earlier. I will look at ECBlend and try small bottles of different ratios starting with 60/40 pg/vg and then maybe 50/50. I may as well get a 100% vg sample too just to see any difference.

Seems like now with the glycerin in there, the first draw burns if its concentrated, then concequently the next few less burn.

 

[TamJeff]

What flavor from smokeless image? The cowboy flavor did that to me, the Desert Joe did not.

 

[sze5003]

What flavor from smokeless image? The cowboy flavor did that to me, the Desert Joe did not.

The Menthol Burst Flavor, but ryy4 does it too. I got the smooth sampler pack of cartomizers so I have not tried the other flavors yet.