Help me plan my next PV purchase....

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You'll probably be glad you passed on the GG. The "Little" Chuck is perfect. Design it any way you want. It vapes at 3.7V and the vapor output is big and consistent...always. If you don't like the bottom button that rules out the Super T mods, which are far above standard. But with a Lil Chuck you just can't go wrong. Read the Chuck sub-forum and check out the new prOn thread so you can see all the recent Chucks Jeff has made. Good luck! :)
 
I like the versatility of being able to vape at 3.7v or 6v so probably the big chuck would be better but Ive been reading about "The Buzz" which has yet to be released. The thing that appeals to me is the adjustable voltage. Ive heard that vaping at 6v just kills most juice flavors but that 4-5volts is like the best of both worlds...any opinions on that?
 

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I like the versatility of being able to vape at 3.7v or 6v so probably the big chuck would be better but Ive been reading about "The Buzz" which has yet to be released. The thing that appeals to me is the adjustable voltage. Ive heard that vaping at 6v just kills most juice flavors but that 4-5volts is like the best of both worlds...any opinions on that?

I've settled on 3.7V but understand not all 3.7V devices (batteries are the same). Some don't even make it to 3.1Volts and some start out a bit highter than 3.7 but hold that peak for much longer than others. The 14500 is one of those that hold peak volts for 5-6 hours and then the curve drops during the next few hours before the need for a recharge. I've burn out 510 attys on 5 volts by not paying attention and when I'm vaping (me, not everyone), I don't want to have to 'pay attention' - plus 5 volts (this gets into that 'eyes glass over phenomena' ;-) with the resistance that the 510 atty has can mean loss of flavor and at 6V forget it. You have to have 'dumbed down' "HV" attys for 6 and even for 5 with the 510, although you could vape the 901 at 5v pretty comfortably. IOW, I think you're original take in your original post as to your preferences was very close to being right with the exception that some box mods are really nice while not being aesthetic for some. The V3 Joye Stick is actually pretty nice - the matte black one and 'stealty' - real small, fits in the hand, and doesn't look in any way like a cigarette or crack pipe. :) When asked, sometimes for fun I'll just say it's a 'personal inhaler' and there isn't much follow up.
 

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I like the versatility of being able to vape at 3.7v or 6v so probably the big chuck would be better but Ive been reading about "The Buzz" which has yet to be released. The thing that appeals to me is the adjustable voltage. Ive heard that vaping at 6v just kills most juice flavors but that 4-5volts is like the best of both worlds...any opinions on that?

I have my big Chuck in my hand as we speak. It sports a 901, High resistance atomizer and 2, 3.0 volt RCR123 batteries. This tones it down so that it doesn't burn out the flavor and the 901 format conveys the flavors better than the 510. This is the best combination of hardware that I've found yet. Tons of vapor, perfect amount of throat and delicious flavor delivery.
As Martha would say, "it's a good thing".
 
It just seems like there are certain times every day where the regular voltage (or maybe its the nic mg) just isnt doing it for me which is when I end up grabbing an analog...not any particular pattern like after meals etc just every day I get to a point where my current ecig isnt satisfying the urge. This is what makes me think I may need the potential for higher voltage as Ive seen people comment that going to HV is what helped them quit once and for all.
 

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Here's a suggestion…

Spend $100. Get a single battery eGo, a Joye stick and the DSE905. Decide which you like and sell the others to spend for extra batteries etc. for the one you keep. Deal probably won't last long:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...rum/94785-big-deal-stick-ego-905-99-99-a.html

I own the DSE905 and really like it. I just picked up the Indulgence (about $60). Very sweet PV with tons of options. I has a big battery case for $25-$30 which comes with 2x3.0V for HV vaping but can also take the 2000+mah 18650 for multi-day vaping. A nice heavy duty passthru is a $20-$25 option.
 
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I mostly use 18mg juices and Im accustomed to 1 pack per day Marlboro Lights if that helps in the advice/recommendation giving


Read this and recall I was a 3pack a day smoker...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...raving-after-5-months-vaping.html#post1413909

Nic absorption is connected with the amount of vapor - d'uh. So it would seem that the higher voltage would give you more but again - there are two factors in how hot the ecig gets - the voltage (battery) and the resistance (atty). When you go to HV they have HV attys (which means higher ohms attys) that you have to use because you'll burn the regular ones out. But the resultant current is a combination of the two so when you increase one - like the voltage - you decrease the other and it becomes a '6 one way half a dozen the other' when you start compensating one for the other but you can end up with the same (or close to optimum vapor) with a true 3.7V batt with a regular 510 atty.

What is more important than that for your situation is the amount of nicotine in the ejuice and the above is one way to handle it without becoming more addicted to higher and higher doses of the stuff.
 

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...singleangel:Ok so first to clarify on the Chuck...please tell me if this is accurate....
1. If I select the 1.5 inch longer battery housing (the big chuck), I can vape at the normal 3.7v (if I use 18350 batteries) OR 6v (if I use 3v batteries)? ...

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That's not entirely correct. The Big Chuck uses the 18650, the little chuck uses the 18350. Based on what you smoked and the fact that most of us vape more often when we start out, and the whole thing being novel, it's doubtful that the 18350 would last all day.


 

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Read this and recall I was a 3pack a day smoker...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...raving-after-5-months-vaping.html#post1413909

Nic absorption is connected with the amount of vapor - d'uh. So it would seem that the higher voltage would give you more but again - there are two factors in how hot the ecig gets - the voltage (battery) and the resistance (atty). When you go to HV they have HV attys (which means higher ohms attys) that you have to use because you'll burn the regular ones out. But the resultant current is a combination of the two so when you increase one - like the voltage - you decrease the other and it becomes a '6 one way half a dozen the other' when you start compensating one for the other but you can end up with the same (or close to optimum vapor) with a true 3.7V batt with a regular 510 atty.

What is more important than that for your situation is the amount of nicotine in the ejuice and the above is one way to handle it without becoming more addicted to higher and higher doses of the stuff.

Kent, If the math that you refer to in this post is the only factor in the vapor production and therefore the nicotine absorption and throat feel then why do I experience more vapor, TH and flavor on my 901 mod with a 5.2 ohm atty than I do on my 510 mod with a 3.2 ohm atty using the same batteries and juice? There must be something more to it. The performance of my HV901 set up is nothing at all like a 510 at 3.7 volts. not even close.
 

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Kent, If the math that you refer to in this post is the only factor in the vapor production and therefore the nicotine absorption and throat feel then why do I experience more vapor, TH and flavor on my 901 mod with a 5.2 ohm atty than I do on my 510 mod with a 3.2 ohm atty using the same batteries and juice? There must be something more to it. The performance of my HV901 set up is nothing at all like a 510 at 3.7 volts. not even close.

Well, I could go into all the subjective reasons why things don't align with the math for many people, but here's a few examples of the math:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...iscussion/95066-3-7v-vs-4-2v.html#post1422725

Wattage is what lights up the atty and the atomizer, atomizes :) There might be a factor of how over or under heating might affect atomization but in every experience I've had with the combinations of voltage and ohms, it's been consistent with the math and there is a reason why LR attys are created and why HV attys must be used at higher voltages. An LR atty at 3.7V will out produce a high HV atty at 5V. As far as throat hit, that aspect is part subjective because it's your throat. I won't argue that point.

And the main thing is that if you're happy with your setup, then no amount of math matters. I don't know the tech on HV ejuice - you'd have to go to Drew at Nhaler for an explanation of that - I always thought it was just more flavor added but I really don't know, but getting close to the same wattage (via different ohmed attys) at 3.7v and 5v the ejuice tastes the same to me and the vapor is almost identical.

So for attempting to give objective advice to someone who is wondering what the factors are, I'm much more comfortable giving them the facts of the Volts, Ohms and Wattage than I would be saying 'my set up is the best'. Everyone experienced vaper thinks that or they would change. But that isn't of much help to someone who isn't getting vapor :)
 

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Kent C, I guess I will have to respectfully disagree with that last paragraph. Saying "my set up is the best" is exactly what is helpful to someone who hasn't tried many "set ups" and is looking to benefit from the experience of others. I think that's what the new members area is all about. Most people come into this thing overwhelmed and confused and are looking for advise based on what others have experienced.
BTW, you caught the fact that the resistance is different (higher) on the 901 HV atty. Right?
 

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Kent C, I guess I will have to respectfully disagree with that last paragraph. Saying "my set up is the best" is exactly what is helpful to someone who hasn't tried many "set ups" and is looking to benefit from the experience of others. I think that's what the new members area is all about. Most people come into this thing overwhelmed and confused and are looking for advise based on what others have experienced.
BTW, you caught the fact that the resistance is different (higher) on the 901 HV atty. Right?

Yeah, we'll have to agree to disagree on this point. I think most thinking people are looking for some objective facts in order to make informed decisions. But yeah, some just want to be pointed in the direction. And, you know that higher ohms means less wattage right? That's why HV attys don't produce much vapor on non-HV devices. And why lower ohm attys will produce more vapor on HV devices but tend to burn out quicker. HV attys are 'governors' of wattage and vapor, not enhancers.
 

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" I understand Ohms law but I also understand what happens when I push the button on my PV.
"Most thinking people"huh .... nice. Well, I suppose I could be offended by your arrogance and shoot some carefully veiled insult back but I'm gonna drop this.

What do you call this:

"BTW, you caught the fact that the resistance is different (higher) on the 901 HV atty. Right? "

IOW, you get what you give, bub.
 
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