Help me prove my argument to the family...

[courtnoogin]

Okay so everyone is happy that I have quit smoking the stinkies and have moved to vaping, but as most of you I am sure can agree they still have a lot of questions I do not have the answers to...
For example:
If I use an e-liquid at only 6 mg nic how many ml's is it in comparison to an analog...?

If an e-liquid is labled 6mg nic, what does the breakdown look like... is it per ml, or per bottle, or per drag?

Please help me clarify in some sort... as I am slowly working on converts but it is difficult with skeptic medical field family members... when in reality I think I am doing pretty well as I am just over a month and at 6/8 mg nicotine.
Thanks and happy vaping!!

 

[albcig]

you drink the same amount of watter you need, no matter the size of the bottle. tell them to be very happy that you are avoiding the carcinogens.

 

[ScandaLeX]

Okay so everyone is happy that I have quit smoking the stinkies and have moved to vaping, but as most of you I am sure can agree they still have a lot of questions I do not have the answers to...
For example:
If I use an e-liquid at only 6 mg nic how many ml's is it in comparison to an analog...?

If an e-liquid is labled 6mg nic, what does the breakdown look like... is it per ml, or per bottle, or per drag?

Please help me clarify in some sort... as I am slowly working on converts but it is difficult with skeptic medical field family members... when in reality I think I am doing pretty well as I am just over a month and at 6/8 mg nicotine.
Thanks and happy vaping!!

I don't know what it is in comparison to an actual cigarette but if you have a 10ml BOTTLE of juice with a nic level of 6mg you have 6mg per ml of juice which would be a total of 60.

If that's incorrect someone will gladly show me the error of my math.

 

[DC2]

Read this...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ette-vs-e-cigarette-nicotine-equivalency.html

 

[suspectK]

^Yeah, I was going to go on a rant about the freebasing agents, MAOI's, random filler chemicals, and so forth that are in corporate tobacco. Even if you grew the tobacco yourself, you're still getting MAOI's.

 

[guppy]

I don't know what it is in comparison to an actual cigarette but if you have a 10ml BOTTLE of juice with a nic level of 6mg you have 6mg per ml of juice which would be a total of 60.

If that's incorrect someone will gladly show me the error of my math.

I highly doubt when the bottle is labeled 6mg of nic, it is per ml of liquid... so 60mg of nic in 1 bottle is probably near overdose... can you imagine 18mg nic users??? That'd be poison! Also 6mg doesnt mean 6% of the liquid in there. Nicotine actually helps you focus and has some advantages when taken in proper dosages. Vaping and cigarettes can NOT be compared to one another due to the fact that all the carcinogens and tar are out of the picture. Although there aren't much tests done, it's as harmful as the patch or gum and should be compared with those rather than cigarettes. When the patch and gum are compared with cigarettes, I'm sure its just the nic and not the harms it does to your body.

EDIT: scandolex, I just liked your post to get your attention

 

[FlamingoTutu]

Your best chance is to go here and print up some information for them CASAA Printable Material

 

[klynnn]

There are pharmaceutical companies researching nicotene these days in relation to alzheimers/parkinsons/Ibs/diabetes and have found some studies promising. Can you imagine what the FDA will do to nicotene if any of these studies can be marketable. The price of nicotene just went through the roof.

 

[Skitty]

I highly doubt when the bottle is labeled 6mg of nic, it is per ml of liquid... so 60mg of nic in 1 bottle is probably near overdose... can you imagine 18mg nic users??? That'd be poison!

And that is why we don't drink bottles of joose.

But yeah, it is mg/ml, so a 6mg strength in a 10ml bottle has 60mg of nico, spot on (and a 18mg version has 180mg). Might not be exact, I assume there's some rounding or a margin of error, but yeah, that's exactly what it means, and why over here at least it does have to be labeled as a poison.

Just remember you're unlikely to vape an entire 10ml bottle in one five-minute sitting, though, and that you're never going to be inhaling & absorbing to bloodstream 100% of the nico that's in the bottled juice. And don't drink it, obviously.



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[Skitty]

@courtnoogin Since you can't give them a perfect answer on this you can always explain that it's exactly the same because it's self regulated.

Think about it: if you need more nico than a CIG would give you, you chain smoke until satisfied; if you just need a wee top-up, ever smoked half of one then gone "meh" and stubbed it? Same way: you need a little, you vape for three mins; a lot, vape for twenty, etc. You smoked until your body went "OK, got my fix, you may carry on with your tasks and whatnot", and now you vape until you body does the same. Your body won't suddenly decide it needs more nico than before - less is more likely as time goes on - so you will stay roughly the same level of absorption as when you were a smoker, probably drop a bit over time.

Your body is the only thing that knows exactly what you WERE getting, so it's the only thing you can trust to measure what you ARE getting, and unfortunately the units it measures in are Happies™.

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[chesty]

from watching youtube, and not from personal experience yet, the nicotine level in a bottle and the nicotine level absorbed by your body are two different things and depend on the hardware. with a big battery with low ohms coil that produces clouds of vapour, 6mg juice might be strong. I'm currently vaping 24mg on a little tank and battery, it's fine for me atm. but I have better hardware coming, I have a feeling it will be way too strong.

 

[darkstorm]

from watching youtube, and not from personal experience yet, the nicotine level in a bottle and the nicotine level absorbed by your body are two different things and depend on the hardware. with a big battery with low ohms coil that produces clouds of vapour, 6mg juice might be strong. I'm currently vaping 24mg on a little tank and battery, it's fine for me atm. but I have better hardware coming, I have a feeling it will be way too strong.

More fog=more juice vaporized per second. You would get the same mg/ml of nicotine if you vaped the same quantity of juice on a standard eGo battery, it would just take you longer. But, for rate of vaporization reasons, a puff on an eGo is going to deliver less punch than a more advanced set up.

 

[cmdebrecht]

And you might also tell them that the body absorbs nic differently from vaping than from smoking. Smoke particles are itty-bitty and can be inhaled way deep down into the lungs where the nicotine makes its way into the bloodstream. Vapor droplets, on the other hand, are ginormous in comparison, so very little nic is absorbed by the lung tissue. Instead it is absorbed by the lining of your mouth and nose. I know from personal l experience that I hold vapor in my mouth for a far shorter time. So even if you vape more than you smok don't, it is my understanding that you may still be absorbing less nic.

 

[bluecat]

Also remember you can't change everyone. My wife still doesn't believe I gave up smoking because of the nicotine. She is happy I don't stink anymore, well cept after a cigar.

My doc was happy though.

 

[skoony]

24mg=2.4% by volume.6mg=.6%by volume.etc..,etc..,etc...
regards
mike

 

[suspectK]

24mg=2.4% by volume.6mg=.6%by volume.etc..,etc..,etc...
regards
mike

Is that 100% nicotine measurement in a VG, PG, H2O, or alcohol solution?

 

[DaveP]

Tell your family that nicotine isn't the culprit in tobacco, it's the carcinogens and chemicals they add to the mix. Ecig juice is a simple concoction. There's nicotine and the rating is in mg/ml and that means your 6mg juice has 6mg of nic per ml of juice.

The rest of the juice is generally propylene glycol, maybe some vegetable glycerine, and some bakery grade flavorings. The nicotine is USP pharmaceutical grade by law. It's the same nicotine that's in Nicorette gum and inhaler products. Yes, that nic has some traces of TSNA (tobacco specific nitrosamines) but the amount is an extremely tiny remnant of the amount originally in the tobacco it's extracted from.

Propylene glycol and vegetable glycerine are widely found in foods, soft drinks, makeup, your toothpaste, salad dressings, and hundreds of other products. Here's some source information.

Propylene glycol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

- Proplylene Glycol is in these and many others.

- Most cake/cupcake mixes
- Some frostings
- Lots of ice cream brands - Cold Stone Creamery and Graeter's Ice Cream both contain this, plus supermarket brands
- Many McDonald's sauces - including Big Mac sauce and their mayonnaise
- Some flavoring syrups
- Most beers use it as a foaming agent
- Cornbread and muffin mixes
- Coffee (specifically Folgers -- probably others)
- Candy
- Fast Food
- Many salad dressings
- Biscuits in the can that you bake at home

 

[Ohyeathat]

Tell your family that nicotine isn't the culprit in tobacco, it's the carcinogens and chemicals they add to the mix. Ecig juice is a simple concoction. There's nicotine and the rating is in mg/ml and that means your 6mg juice has 6mg of nic per ml of juice.

The rest of the juice is generally propylene glycol, maybe some vegetable glycerine, and some bakery grade flavorings. The nicotine is USP pharmaceutical grade by law. It's the same nicotine that's in Nicorette gum and inhaler products. Yes, that nic has some traces of TSNA (tobacco specific nitrosamines) but the amount is an extremely tiny remnant of the amount originally in the tobacco it's extracted from.

Propylene glycol and vegetable glycerine are widely found in foods, soft drinks, makeup, your toothpaste, salad dressings, and hundreds of other products. Here's some source information.

Propylene glycol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I tried telling this to my hubby and he countered with the fact that I am inhaling and not eating the stuff in juice. He is very stubborn and just wants me off nic, period.

 

[suspectK]

Well, you just can't win with some people.. I'm sure since you're married, you already understand that.

 

[bluecat]

I tried telling this to my hubby and he countered with the fact that I am inhaling and not eating the stuff in juice. He is very stubborn and just wants me off nic, period.

So does my wife. I just developed hearing loss though