Help me understand Mech Mods and figure out if it's right for me...

[Mr343]

Thanks MR343! I was looking around and I love the way the V3tronix Flip looks, but the price ($250-$375) is considerably more than what I want to pay and haven't been able to find a clone for it. Any recommendations along those lines of mod (don't like the Maraxus if that's what you were going to throw out there)? I like the engraved look and gives it a bit of character over the simple/sleek designs of say a Caravelo or Nemesis.

And you're right...I'm already considering just selling/trading the zmax for a mech and either using the PT2 or buying a rta with my own microcoils. I started a new thread about that here:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...lt-my-first-coil-igo-l-now-what-tank-get.html

Also forgot to mention that the build you did looks great!!

Congrats, that will only get even easier with time.

Enjoy

 

[timastyle]

Mr343 - Those are nice mods, but the V3tronix is on it's own as far as looks goes I think (many will not disagree I'm sure but for me, it's the nicest I've seen). I'll keep looking around and see if anything really jumps out at me. I've honestly been looking at a clone though as I'm not sure I want to invest that much money into something (a hobby of sorts) that I just started. I was thinking maybe a Nemmy clone would be a good starting point and go from there. Do you use a Fire Safe with your mech mod?

Thanks about the coil. It was a lot easier than I was thinking and took me less than 10 minutes from start to finish. The hardest part was getting it mounted to the posted. The wrapping was very straightforward. I kept the drill bit in the drill to keep it stationary, started with some excess wire one end, held it with one hand constantly and used my other hand to wrap the wire around the bit.

 

[edyle]

So I've been reading up quite a bit on mech mods and trying to understand whether or not it's for me. I currently have a Zmax V5 VV/VW with PT2 and Davide tanks with 1.5 ohm coils. I don't really have any interest at this time to build my own coils, but I do like the slick and compact looks of the mechs. Thanks to a forum member (Tactical) and reading threads on here, I understand the safety issues that one should be aware of before jumping into a mech mod, but there are things that I don't understand still. I'm hoping you all can help shed some light on these things for me to help me make an informed decision:

1. If I'm not planning on sub-ohming or building my own coils, what advantages would I have using a mech mod over my Zmax? Will the flavor and cloud be any different assuming I'm using the same tanks as I currently have?
2. From what I understand, a mech mod starts off with higher voltage (around 4.2V) and decreases as the battery starts getting drained. Wouldn't this make a mech mod less consistent in the vape experience vs. a VW that pushes out the same watts each time?
3. If I'm using 1.5 ohm coils with 32 kanthal, I figure I won't be able to push the high wattages that the sub-ohm users get without burning the wicks.
4. I've been told that a RTA/RDA provide better flavor and vape experience overall, but as I stated before, I don't have a desire to build my own coils. I have found some pre-wound coils that I can purchase for the same price as the Kanger coils even as low as .8 ohms, but I don't know how easy it would be to pair them with a RDA/RTA or even if it's possible. Any thoughts/suggestions on if it would be possible? Here's a link of the coils I found: http://www.avidvaper.com/rebuildable-atomizer-coils/

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Have you seen this?

Vamo 5S Variable Volt/Watt Control Head for Mechanical Mods

Now you can get a mechmod, and when you want to, just add on the control head. And you have the flexibility of both worlds.

 

[timastyle]

Edyle - I hadn't seen that but that's kind of the same as a Kick isn't it? PLUS, I already have a Zmax so I'm not sure I would need the control head. Definitely a cool concept though. Wonder how much bigger if any it'll make the mod compared to a standard VV/VW.

 

[sandt38]

crxess - With all due respect, what's the simplest of builds to one isn't to another. I have ruined 2 Kanger coil heads just by trying to pull the wicks out, let alone trying to build the coils from scratch. It's not something that I'm saying I can't do, but it will take time to learn and with a 15 month old running around the house and a pregnant wife a few months away from having our second child, time is not on my side for trial and error work. I will probably get into it a little later, but I would like to have my options. Most of all, I like the sleekness and compact sizes of mech mods. In doing the math, even if I continued to use the same tanks as I am now at the ohms I am, I can probably use a mech mod with no issues.

Bad - I've seen a number of your posts regarding the importance of having the appropriate batteries for mech mods. I currently have IMR Efest 18350 and 18650 10A batteries. I did the math and if I used a 1.5 ohm coil at 4.2V, I would only be drawings 2.8A. Even if I went with a .8 ohm coil, I still wouldn't draw 4.5A. The Efests have been tested to 6.5A (according to DV) even though they claim 10A. I think if I were to go with a .8 build, then I would probably go with a Sony 30A battery for safety sake. Better safe than sorry.

my Efest 18490s get red hot when run in my Nemmy with a 1.1 ohm Aqua. I can drop my AW18350 AW18650, Panny 18650 (3400mah), and Sony 30 amp 18650 batteries with no issues. So if you want a pair of Brand new Efest 18490s to play with, I'll send them to you for $7... I'll never buy another Efest battery, ever.

 

[Bad Ninja]

Have you seen this?

Vamo 5S Variable Volt/Watt Control Head for Mechanical Mods

Now you can get a mechmod, and when you want to, just add on the control head. And you have the flexibility of both worlds.

My gawd! That would equate to a lightsabre!
Adds another 510 connection as well as a couple inches of height

 

[Mr343]

No problem at all man... Just looking to add options for you. Nothing wrong with Clones in my book, all I meant earlier was do your homework then when buying one. I think a Nemi clone is good but there are bad ones out there. A good cooper Nemi is on Kidney Puncher now for about 55 bones.... that would be good and has no logos

Again, enjoy building, it is not hard just intimidating at first.

 

[timastyle]

I appreciate the help. Did you mean a brass nemmy clone? I didn't see a copper one on there unless you have a link. The Kylin clone looks pretty cool. Any thoughts on it?.

On a side note. I had my Efest 18350 on the charger a little longer than I should have (overnight). When I have it in the Zmax, it seems like it misfires at times. Is that something with the battery or would that me the button? I don't have this problem that I've noticed with a 18650 in there.

 

[Bad Ninja]

Leaving the efest on the charger overnight shouldn't be a problem at all.
Coils be the mod circuitry and atty is drawing power close to the 350s limit?

 

[timastyle]

I have 1.6 ohm coils running at 8w so that shouldn't be the problem. I'm wondering if it's not a hardware issue with the button. I need to pay closer attention when I have the 18650 in and see if I don't have the same problem.

 

[edyle]

Edyle - I hadn't seen that but that's kind of the same as a Kick isn't it? PLUS, I already have a Zmax so I'm not sure I would need the control head. Definitely a cool concept though. Wonder how much bigger if any it'll make the mod compared to a standard VV/VW.

Well I think when you buy a kick, it's more like a drop in module like the safevape fuse, that you put inside of the tube; you can't adjust the power from the outside, you'd have to take it out and adjust it with a screwdriver then put it back in.

If there's any kick modules available that you could screw on the top of your mechmod, then screw on your topper on top of that, I'd sure like to get one; but so far, this vamo head is the fist thing like it that I've seen; the downside is as far as I can tell, you're stuck with having to try to press two button to activate: the mechmod button and the vamo button;

For lenth, yep it adds length definitely.

 

[timastyle]

I finally pulled the trigger and bought a Private V2 clone this afternoon. I went to a local shop that had it and they also had the Kylin clone. The Kylin felt pretty flimsy and little to no heft to it. The V2 is sturdy and compact. With a 18650 battery and the IGO-L, its still shorter than the Zmax with a PT2 tank.

Just built my second coil and it came in at 1.29 ohms on the meter. Its hitting nice. I'll probably try to build a coil or two more with lower resistance and see how the V2 holds up. I havent gotten a Safe Fire yet though, but in well within my Efest 10A battery limits. The only problem is that the PT2 tank doesnt have any airflow sitting on it.