Help?: Mech or Afv?

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SaintMirage

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Hey everyone,

I've been learning the differences between mech and afv yet I'm still not sure what would be best for me. A lot of people have said to get nemesis clones and then others say never to get a clone..

The advice that I've found most helpful was that everyone has different preferences and you should find a build that works best for you.

So! Since I'm new and I don't know what would be good for myself I was hoping someone here could help.

•I've never been a smoker, I simply enjoy the taste and vapor that comes from vaporizing and I won't really be smoking many juices with nicotine.

•I want whatever I'm using to last me a while.

•I don't want to have to make many changes (drilling holes and such). I'm still figuring out how atomizers and mods works haha.

•I want a build that will last me and I won't get tired of when I'm out of my beginner faze of vaping.

•I believe that my current setup is a vw but I'm not positive and I'm not sure what atomizer I have.

•Of course I prefer it too look nice, what drew me towards the Nemesis clone was the brass look.

So when it comes down to it I want something that doesn't cost a ridiculous amount, produces nice thick vapor, and most of all is great for tasting. Hopefully there is someone here that has an idea of what I should get!

Thanks everyone!


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Hey everyone,

I've been learning the differences between mech and afv yet I'm still not sure what would be best for me. A lot of people have said to get nemesis clones and then others say never to get a clone..

The advice that I've found most helpful was that everyone has different preferences and you should find a build that works best for you.

So! Since I'm new and I don't know what would be good for myself I was hoping someone here could help.

•I've never been a smoker, I simply enjoy the taste and vapor that comes from vaporizing and I won't really be smoking many juices with nicotine.

•I want whatever I'm using to last me a while.

•I don't want to have to make many changes (drilling holes and such). I'm still figuring out how atomizers and mods works haha.

•I want a build that will last me and I won't get tired of when I'm out of my beginner faze of vaping.

•I believe that my current setup is a vw but I'm not positive and I'm not sure what atomizer I have.

•Of course I prefer it too look nice, what drew me towards the Nemesis clone was the brass look.

So when it comes down to it I want something that doesn't cost a ridiculous amount, produces nice thick vapor, and most of all is great for tasting. Hopefully there is someone here that has an idea of what I should get!

Thanks everyone!


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Welcome,
My short answer: Evic

What other hobbies do you have?
What is your YEARLY budget for this hobby?
Can and will you change your own flat tire on your car or do you call the service?

Cheers
Have fun


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SaintMirage

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Welcome,
My short answer: Evic

What other hobbies do you have?
What is your YEARLY budget for this hobby?
Can and will you change your own flat tire on your car or do you call the service?

Cheers
Have fun


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As far as other hobbies go I mostly work so I don't spend as much time on my hobbies these days but I enjoy sports, movies, playing bass I suppose?

I'm not really sure how much I'm willing to spend on atomizers and mods. Probably no more than $100 for now but that's about the most I'm willing to spend since I still need to buy supplies for making my own juice.

I have had 3-4 flat tires in my life and I've changed them all myself hahah. I'm capable of working with my hands but someone showed me how to change a tire, no one has shown me how to put together, setup, or fix mechs.


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SaintMirage

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If you want it to last with little fuss, I'd either go with something like an Evic or an MVP with a big (at least 3.5ml) cargo tank. This is what I have & it lasts me all day. Plus, cartos are tried & true.

When I saw I want something that last I mean I don't want to buy new parts or mods every month if it can be avoided. I don't have a problem charging and getting through the day.


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When I saw I want something that last I mean I don't want to buy new parts or mods every month if it can be avoided. I don't have a problem charging and getting through the day.


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Ah, gotcha. But honestly what I listed is still relevant to your needs. You could go with the standard Ego battery + and EVOD tank or something like that. That is the standard beginner affair (and its what I started with), but I find most bottom coils fussy. All of them (and I've tried a crap load).

But no matter what, you're going to have to buy extra things & keep them on hand.
 

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Your biggest expense will be the initial one. Battery device, juice attachments, and battery charger are the basic gear you need. Thereafter, you subsequent expenses will be just for replacement coils for the juice attachments and juice refills.

Starter setup could be as simple as a variable voltage eGo setup: A Good Starter Setup for a Beginning Vaper This will be well under $100 complete.

spinnerProtank.jpg

Another setup could be an iTaste MVP mod. Comes with the USB charger, beauty adaptor ring, and a clearotank in the box. Still well under $100.

MVP_in_hand.jpg

Get into a mechanical mod and you'll need to buy a couple of rechargeable batteries and a box charger for them. Here the cost can vary and easily get over $100 depending upon if its authentic or a clone. I'm not one to recommend a mechanical to a new vaper, as it doesn't have protective circuitry to keep a novice out of trouble with short circuits, over-discharging a battery, or under-discharging a battery.

clear&frosted-tank-1.jpg

A better choice for a novice would be a regulated variable voltage battery device which will have all the above safety features built-in. These have variable voltage, a digital LED screen, built-in voltage and ohm meters. A Vamo, Lava Tube, SVD, Evic, or ZMax will be under $100. Of course you still need to purchase batteries and a box charger.

ZMax Mini.JPG

There's a wide selection of possible juice attachments. Everyone has their favorites. Clearomizers/clearotanks are easy to fill and use, but can be inconsistant and mute some flavors. A cartotank is a little more involved with the initial setup, but has better flavor production and more consistancy. Rebuildable atomizers are more advanced, requiring you to wrap your own coils with special wire and making your own wicks with either organic cotton, silica, or stainless steel mesh. These will provide the best flavor and the most vapor production.

Guide to Juice Attachments
 
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SaintMirage

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Your biggest expense will be the initial one. Battery device, juice attachments, and battery charger are the basic gear you need. Thereafter, you subsequent expenses will be just for replacement coils for the juice attachments and juice refills.

Starter setup could be as simple as a variable voltage eGo setup: A Good Starter Setup for a Beginning Vaper This will be well under $100 complete.

View attachment 326782

Another setup could be an iTaste MVP mod. Comes with the USB charger, beauty adaptor ring, and a clearotank in the box. Still well under $100.

View attachment 326783

Get into a mechanical mod and you'll need to buy a couple of rechargeable batteries and a box charger for them. Here the cost can vary and easily get over $100 depending upon if its authentic or a clone. I'm not one to recommend a mechanical to a new vaper, as it doesn't have protective circuitry to keep a novice out of trouble with short circuits, over-discharging a battery, or under-discharging a battery.

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A better choice for a novice would be a regulated variable voltage battery device which will have all the above safety features built-in. These have variable voltage, a digital LED screen, built-in voltage and ohm meters. A Vamo, Lava Tube, SVD, Evic, or ZMax will be under $100. Of course you still need to purchase batteries and a box charger.

View attachment 326785

There's a wide selection of possible juice attachments. Everyone has their favorites. Clearomizers/clearotanks are easy to fill and use, but can be inconsistant and mute some flavors. A cartotank is a little more involved with the initial setup, but has better flavor production and more consistancy. Rebuildable atomizers are more advanced, requiring you to wrap your own coils with special wire and making your own wicks with either organic cotton, silica, or stainless steel mesh. These will provide the best flavor and the most vapor production.

Guide to Juice Attachments

Oh wow, I believe I have the top picture setup. You said that's an Ego? I didn't realize that.


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LDS714

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...playing bass...
Ah, so you translate between the musicians and the drummer? :D

Another bassist here.

High-end mechs are like the Conklins of vaping. Expensive and not for everyone, but exquisite attention to detail.

Provari are like the Rickenbackers of vaping. American crafted with pride but with a slightly long in the tooth look.

MVPs would be similar to the Mexican and Japanese P-Basses, they'll do everything you need but don't necessarily have the looks and pizzazz of higher-end mods.

Vamos are kind of like the P-Bass knockoffs. Form and function are OK and they generally do what you need, but they don't have the craftsmanship or longevity of higher-end mods.

If you're wanting to test DIY juices, a simple 510 dripping atty would be the ticket.

All that being said, my utility out and about rig is generally an old EB3 with an Ampeg Portaflex, wait - I mean either an eGo spinner or an MVP with iClear 30s atties.



eGos and their variants are sorta like Squiers.
 
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