Help - Nasty flavor of nicotine in my diy juice

[DutchFlyer]

did you try mixing a small sample batch of unflavored? as testing the pg and vg. will narrow the foul taste to the nic from that vendor for sure.

Yes; the culprit is definitely the RTS Vapes 100 mg/ml PG. I get the same nasty flavor when I make unflavored e-liquid with nic, and if I make a nic-free batch, the nasty flavor is gone.

 

[WillyZee]

+1 link to source please.

100 mg/ml nicotine should not be "feared" but respected. Take precautions, but a full body hazmat suit is not necessary.

from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention

CDC - The Emergency Response Safety and Health Database: Systemic Agent: NICOTINE - NIOSH

 

[mgmrick]

That really says nothing and they are talking about doses much stronger than 100mg which is 10% nic.

from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention

CDC - The Emergency Response Safety and Health Database: Systemic Agent: NICOTINE - NIOSH

 

[Crunktanium]

I practically drink 60mg all day while mixing (must taste my juice) but 100mg I think i'll pass on that one.

 

[emus]

Yes; the culprit is definitely the RTS Vapes 100 mg/ml PG. I get the same nasty flavor when I make unflavored e-liquid with nic, and if I make a nic-free batch, the nasty flavor is gone.

Nic adds that sweet natural pepper taste to my buds.

0 mg taste like tap water. 4 mg taste like tap water w/ a slight a hint of the sweet peppery taste. 8 mg has no more tap water under tones, only a medium sweet peppery taste. 12mg has a rich sweet peppery taste.

Flavorings can easily overpower the bland VG, PG and nic taste.

 

[r77r7r]

I'm making my own juices for the first time, and I bought my supplies from RTS Vapes:

• 100mg/ml PG (tested to be 103mg/ml, error tolerance of +/- 3mg/ml)
• nic free PG
• nic free VG

Also, tons of flavors from several vendors, mostly Capella and Mt Baker Vapor.

So, here's my problem. When I open the nic PG, if I take a careful whiff of it, there's a NASTY smell, that I assume must be the nic. The nic free PG and VG both have no odor at all.

That nasty smell--even when diluted into a vapable juice with a pungent flavor--still comes through, both in the odor and the taste.

I don't smell this in any of the pre-made juices I've bought, with one exception: I purchased several 10ml bottles of juice from fasttech, and a few of them--notably the litchi, kiwi, and guava flavors--had the same nasty taste/smell.

Any solutions out there that you've found? (har har har...)

There is Plenty of clean, clear, odorless nic out there- don't settle for less.

 

[emus]

There is Plenty of clean, clear, odorless nic out there- don't settle for less.

Are you sure?

"PHYSICAL STATE; APPEARANCE:
OILY, COLOURLESS HYGROSCOPIC LIQUID , WITH CHARACTERISTIC ODOUR. TURNS BROWN ON EXPOSURE TO AIR."

Erowid Nicotine Vault : Nicotine Material Safety Data Sheet 1

 

[WillyZee]

That really says nothing and they are talking about doses much stronger than 100mg which is 10% nic.

Everybody makes their own judgements ... However, still going to have to side with ... avoid sniffing too much 100mg nicotine.


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[r77r7r]

Are you sure?

"PHYSICAL STATE; APPEARANCE:
OILY, COLOURLESS HYGROSCOPIC LIQUID , WITH CHARACTERISTIC ODOUR. TURNS BROWN ON EXPOSURE TO AIR."

Erowid Nicotine Vault : Nicotine Material Safety Data Sheet 1

I'll admit to a mild Scent with all that I've bought, but nothing that would be considered an Odor. I just reopened a bottle (48mg/ml) from OneStopDIYShop which has been in a drawer for over a year and had a few drops in it and it is still mildly scented and surprisingly clear as glass.

I solely vape unflavored and anything remotely "bad" smelling comes thru rather easily, especially in a carto running for 3-5 wks.

 

[emus]

I've purchased a few batches of nic/PG; mostly from MFS. Nic from different vendor tasted identical to me. One 2009 batch from another vendor had a slight tint. I like MFS because it is colorless, came in brown Boston bottles, has a clean bland taste, held up perfect (as far as I can tell) after 4 years freezer storage.

 

[r77r7r]

I also liked MFS for awhile. I think they have a new nic base that is the only "certified for vaping" around, so far.

Awesome customer service also.

 

[emus]

I also liked MFS for awhile. I think they have a new nic base that is the only "certified for vaping" around, so far.

Awesome customer service also.

MFS 8-23-2012 batch is good.

 

[Jimi D.]

That really says nothing and they are talking about doses much stronger than 100mg which is 10% nic.

Which would still drop a full grown man ingesting a ml. I remember when you first got your 100 mg and you diluted it by half

 

[salemgold]

I'm making my own juices for the first time, and I bought my supplies from RTS Vapes:

• 100mg/ml PG (tested to be 103mg/ml, error tolerance of +/- 3mg/ml)
• nic free PG
• nic free VG

Also, tons of flavors from several vendors, mostly Capella and Mt Baker Vapor.

So, here's my problem. When I open the nic PG, if I take a careful whiff of it, there's a NASTY smell, that I assume must be the nic. The nic free PG and VG both have no odor at all.

That nasty smell--even when diluted into a vapable juice with a pungent flavor--still comes through, both in the odor and the taste.

I don't smell this in any of the pre-made juices I've bought, with one exception: I purchased several 10ml bottles of juice from fasttech, and a few of them--notably the litchi, kiwi, and guava flavors--had the same nasty taste/smell.

Any solutions out there that you've found? (har har har...)

I have been buying nic from RTS for years and have never encountered a bad taste or smell in their nic. Matter of fact, they are the only vendor that I will buy nic from because most other vendors nic does have the strong taste/ odor.

Sorry for your bad experience but, the good news is that they have a 30 day money back satisfaction guarantee on their nicotine. Just put a ticket in on their web site and they will replace it.

From their site-

Nicotine 30 Day Money Back Guarantee
Flavorless Liquid Nicotine Satisfaction Guarantee

RTS Vapes flavorless nicotine liquid has a 30 day satisfaction guarantee. If for any reason you are not satisfied with our flavorless nicotine liquid please submit a "Ticket" on our website and let us know if you want a 100% refund or replacement. This guarantee does not apply to other products such as concentrated food flavors whose likability are subjective. Order with confidence and check out our product reviews.

 

[emus]

I have been buying nic from RTS for years and have never encountered a bad taste or smell in their nic. Matter of fact, they are the only vendor that I will buy nic from because most other vendors nic does have the strong taste/ odor.

Sorry for your bad experience but, the good news is that they have a 30 day money back satisfaction guarantee on their nicotine. Just put a ticket in on their web site and they will replace it.

From their site-

Nicotine 30 Day Money Back Guarantee
Flavorless Liquid Nicotine Satisfaction Guarantee

RTS Vapes flavorless nicotine liquid has a 30 day satisfaction guarantee. If for any reason you are not satisfied with our flavorless nicotine liquid please submit a "Ticket" on our website and let us know if you want a 100% refund or replacement. This guarantee does not apply to other products such as concentrated food flavors whose likability are subjective. Order with confidence and check out our product reviews.

Good idea.
He has another brand in the mail.
Maybe RTS can wait till he has a chance to compare.

 

[kuvanos]

I bought mine from there once, it turned light brown in two weeks. Taste became unbearable.....had to throw it out. Wizard Labs only for me now.

 

[Jimi D.]

I bought mine from there once, it turned light brown in two weeks. Taste became unbearable.....had to throw it out. Wizard Labs only for me now.

That is so true.

 

[Senraku]

I also picked up 100mg nic from RTSvapes. It's been 4 months, and the nic has turned tan in color, and smells peppery. I mix it at 10mg and usually I can't taste it or smell it at all.

My juices suck so bad though. The one thing I lack is patience. I didn't order enough bottles, so I vape bottles right after mixing with these terrible lorann flavors that I'm mixing probably way too strong. It sucks. Need to buckle down and have some patience

 

[emus]

Ok -- Will do.

The suspense is killing me

 

[PaulaNG]

I also picked up 100mg nic from RTSvapes. It's been 4 months, and the nic has turned tan in color, and smells peppery. I mix it at 10mg and usually I can't taste it or smell it at all.

My juices suck so bad though. The one thing I lack is patience. I didn't order enough bottles, so I vape bottles right after mixing with these terrible lorann flavors that I'm mixing probably way too strong. It sucks. Need to buckle down and have some patience

personally I have found the Loranns is not a good mixer by itself, but is great with other flavors. For example my nic/pg/vg/ry4/loranns cherry