Help on first setup - 200$ budget

[cynicz]

OK so my girlfriend is going to buy me a setup for Christmas. I don't smoke cigarettes yet I smoke hookah very frequently. Usually around 3 bowls a day. When i travel with work I can't bring my hookah so I want a ecig setup using ehookah juices.

Please don't think I'm the type trying to blow huge massive annoying clouds in public as I will only smoke like in my hotel room.
But I want a ecig setup that does blow massive hookah sized clouds. I'm new to ecig so I don't know exactly what I need. She's looking to spend around 220$ max not a dime more, any suggestions would help.

 

[OlDogNewTricks]

The closest to that experience I believe you will find using cartomizers and tanks. I like the Boge XL LR (F16) cartos in Smoktech pyrex DCT tanks. The second closest would be a top coil (iClear) or BDC (Bottom Dual Coil) like the Aspire. Other than that, you will have to learn how to blow clouds safely. Dual or more coil dripping atomizer pushed with a lot of wattage. I used to smoke a pipe (yes, I inhaled, I know, I know) and the cartotank provides me the most reliable, closest experience to that. Search this forum for posts from Baditude, amazing source of information. Hope this helps, good luck and have fun!

 

[elfy]

compare prices on here:

PennyVaper.com


the mvp 2.0 is 40 bucks, and you could get some tanks (even 2-3 extra is a lot) and a ton of juice and be vaping in no time

you should learn to do your own coils/wicks too, since that will help a lot with vapor production and also improve flavor. I use Kanthal wire and sterile cotton as a wick. If the cotton tastes bad, I just remove that, rise off the coil, dry burn it..rinse again...dry burn again to get it nice and clean, then take a tiny bit of cotton (like 2 dry rice grains worth of cotton), thread it through the coil, wet it with some juice to prime it, and then pop it back in the tank (I use Kangertech Protank II minis currently).

Sounds complicated, but its not. Half the fun of vaping is playing with the gear

Here is a video about making a coil for my Mini Protank II and putting a wick in it. I use a big magnifying glass from Harbor Freight so I can see up close to do that fine work of getting that cotton in the coil.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrvwOf13U-s

the thing from Harbor Freight: http://www.harborfreight.com/jumbo-helping-hands-with-led-lights-65779.html

(I took off the bar w/ the alligator clips, I dont need it in the way)

have fun..200 beans is a huge budget to start out with. you could get something really fancy, but I honestly suggest something simpler to start with...especially since the tech for this changes a lot in even 6 months.

Check out some reviews for the MVP 2 on youtube and see if its ideal for you. Its not perfect (no vape gear is, I dont think), but overall folks rave about on here. And at the moment, its not expensive at all.

 

[ProvariAddict]

My first setup was with the avenger that ran me about 180$ or so and I spent another 20$ on a nimbus clone had a friend build me a dual coil cotton build and that's been great for me. It blows out massive clouds haha. I recommend dual coil cotton build because when the flavor of your juice starts to die out just replace the cotton and you're good to go again. And on the bright side it's nothing very fancy just need to know a little bit about builds. It took me a day or two of researching about how to build and replace micro coils w/cotton. Just go with a clone it'll run you under 50$ from a website called fast tech. Happy vaping

 

[cynicz]

So like when buying an ecig what do I need to Vape exactly? Ecig and a tank? What mods and whatnot will I have to do to blow huge clouds?
Can someone list everything possibly link too, that I need to buy to fully be running. Like what tank what Vale kit etc if I should began aftermarket tank? What mods to blow massive clouds. I just want good taste and hookah like clouds.

 

[PeteC2]

I second the MVP 2 as your first "device". Not at all fussy, built well, and certainly will let you vape very, very well!

As far as the tank/clearomizer part, I also agree that a carto tank may give you the best results if you are looking for "clouds" of vapor.

$200 gives you a very wide latitude as far as vaping goes, but I do not recommend getting too esoteric right off the bat. I have a number of vaping devices, but the MVP 2 really is a "go-to" device for me.

BTW, although I have not personally tried them, 777 has a line of ejuices (E-Shisha) that were specifically designed for hookah use (but are not relegated to that only), and may be worth looking at.

In general, ejuices with a higher VG content will provide greater amounts of vapor than those that are primarily PG based.

 

[cynicz]

I'm not a fan of the MVP box like design I like more pen style vapers.

 

[Baditude]

Personally, I do NOT recommend a novice to attempt to use an RBA (rebuildable atomizer) as suggested above. These are advanced juice attachments better left to advanced users. There's much more involved that just wrapping a wire to make a coil. I won't go into all of that here, but stick to over-the-counter juice attachments for the time being.

For your first e-cig device, you don't need a $200 outfit. You can put together a setup for under $100 easy that will provide a very satisfactory vape experience capable of making a lot of flavorful vapor.

First, you'll need a battery device. I suggest either a variable voltage Ego battery setup or a variable voltage MVP.

Vision Spinner ego-type battery, with Kanger Protank juice attachment

MVP with an Innokin iClear 30 clearomizer.
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The Vision Spinner or a Joytech Twist are ego-class batteries which are tube-shaped and rechargeable. They come in different lengths, which determines how long they will last between charges. Juice attachments are connected which are what makes the vapor from flavored e-liquid. http://altsmoke.com/accessories/batteries/egotwist-egospinner.html

Video Tutorial for the Vision Spinner

Gear Setup for a Vision Spinner/Joytech Twist

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The MVP is a variable voltage box-shaped mod about the size of a box of cigarettes. It has a non-removeable/built-in rechargeable battery which can last 2 - 3 days between charges. It can also be used while you charge the battery (pass thru). It also uses the same juice attachments as an ego battery. The advantage of this over an ego is the extreme battery time available with the MVP. http://altsmoke.com/starterkit/innokin-mvp.html

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Juice attachments: Is it a carto, a tank, or what?



Pyrex glass cartotanks on MVP's, Innokin iClear 30 clearomizers, Kanger Protank clearomizer, Kanger Evod clearomizers, Vision Mini Vivi Nova on an ego Twist.

 

[Jay-dub]

Baditude turned me on to the iClear30S. Being stubborn I was reluctant to admit what an improvement over my Protank 2 it was, until I used the iC30S for a while. Now, I crank out the PT2 once in a while for a laugh.

 

[devauto]

Personally, I do NOT recommend a novice to attempt to use an RBA (rebuildable atomizer) as suggested above. These are advanced juice attachments better left to advanced users. There's much more involved that just wrapping a wire to make a coil. I won't go into all of that here, but stick to over-the-counter juice attachments for the time being.

For your first e-cig device, you don't need a $200 outfit. You can put together a setup for under $100 easy that will provide a very satisfactory vape experience capable of making a lot of flavorful vapor.

First, you'll need a battery device. I suggest either a variable voltage Ego battery setup or a variable voltage MVP.

Vision Spinner ego-type battery, with Kanger Protank juice attachment

MVP with an Innokin iClear 30 clearomizer.
_______________

The Vision Spinner or a Joytech Twist are ego-class batteries which are tube-shaped and rechargeable. They come in different lengths, which determines how long they will last between charges. Juice attachments are connected which are what makes the vapor from flavored e-liquid. eGo-C Twist & eGo Spinner Battery - Electronic Cigarette - AltSmoke

Video Tutorial for the Vision Spinner

Gear Setup for a Vision Spinner/Joytech Twist

__________________

The MVP is a variable voltage box-shaped mod about the size of a box of cigarettes. It has a non-removeable/built-in rechargeable battery which can last 2 - 3 days between charges. It can also be used while you charge the battery (pass thru). It also uses the same juice attachments as an ego battery. The advantage of this over an ego is the extreme battery time available with the MVP. Innokin MVP 2 iTaste Kit - AltSmoke

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Juice attachments: Is it a carto, a tank, or what?

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Pyrex glass cartotanks on MVP's, Innokin iClear 30 clearomizers, Kanger Protank clearomizer, Kanger Evod clearomizers, Vision Mini Vivi Nova on an ego Twist.

As always ... Baditude joins the fray armed with lots of awesome advice and useful info!

 

[Plumes.91]

Just read Baditude's post twice in case it didn't settle in. Thats the way to go!

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Another vote for the MVP 2 which I own. Innokin is heads and shoulder above other manufacturers in regards to quality....in general it seems quality has been the one major missing link in the world of vaping

 

[cynicz]

What's the smoke/flavor output on the vision vivi nova clearo with 1.8 coil head is the 1.8 or 2.8 better?

 

[Mark Anthony]

You've got a lot of responses for getting yourself the MVP from 101vapes. I'm going to do the same for this reason.... It's a great affordable mod that will allow you to buy a few extra tanks, coils, juice and still save money to put towards something you may want down the line. I've been using my MVP 2 for a little over 2 months and I love it. Read the reviews... Watch some YouTube.... What have you got to lose? No need to drop a bundle as a new vaper.... Learn what you are doing first using the MVP...... When you are comfortable move to what you want next....

 

[Enzzo]

You've got a lot of responses for getting yourself the MVP from 101vapes. I'm going to do the same for this reason.... It's a great affordable mod that will allow you to buy a few extra tanks, coils, juice and still save money to put towards something you may want down the line. I've been using my MVP 2 for a little over 2 months and I love it. Read the reviews... Watch some YouTube.... What have you got to lose? No need to drop a bundle as a new vaper.... Learn what you are doing first using the MVP...... When you are comfortable move to what you want next....

You will want something next. Trust me, it never stops


Edit: I'll also throw my vote in for the MVP. Should come with an iClear 30, and you just need to get some juice. You're good to go.

 

[Baditude]

What's the smoke/flavor output on the vision vivi nova clearo with 1.8 coil head is the 1.8 or 2.8 better?

Well, its vapor not smoke.

All the different brand clearomizers are mechanically different from one another. One is not necessarily better than another. Different people will have different preferences. Much like how some people like Fords, or Chevy's, or Honda's or Toyota's. Most of us end up trying a few different brands or models to see which one works best for our gear and vape preferences. We can tell you what works best for us and our gear/vaping preferences, but not what will work best for you. Understand?

Most people will say the flavor/vapor is best with a cartomizer in a cartotank. However, they have a higher learning curve, so clearomizers are suggested as a first juice attachment for novices.

Low resistance (1.8 ohm) is generally for fixed or single voltage batteries; this will attempt to simulate the vape of a variable voltage device in a fixed voltage battery. Higher resistance (2.8 ohm) is generally used for a variable voltage battery, and will have a wider range of voltages available than a LR coil.

 

[Plumes.91]

Wow if you need to ask whether or not the 1.8 or the 2.8 is "Better" you certainly have a lot to learn. I suggest you research the terms OHM and RESISTANCE here on the forum. At the top right of this page is a search box. Type in OHM and Resistance and do some reading.

Ohms/Resistance- They mean the same thing. They are just a number for how much the coils resist heat. 1.8 has lower ohms/resistance, so you need less heat to vaporize the juice. Heat is dictated by the voltage/wattage you have set on your device. A non-variable voltage device averages at around 3.3-3.7 volts for most of the charge of the device until it stops working & its time to recharge.

You want a lower resistance coil for a non-variable voltage device. 1.8 would be better in this instance. For a variable voltage device like the MVP or the MVP2, you can use most any resistance/ohm coil heads because you can CHANGE the voltage. A good voltage is usually around 2 numbers higher than the ohms of your heads. 1.8ohm head is good around 3.8 volts. a 2.8 head is good around 4.8 volts. Get it?

You definitely should do a bit of research about resistance/ohms and voltage/wattage before deciding on a good device for you. You may like the idea of only buying low resistance heads for an eGo battery. Or you may enjoy buying any resistance head for a VV mod.

 

[DrillRX]

iTaste VTR $120

Two MNKE 1500 Batts $40

Protank 2 $20 (or use the tank it comes with and save $20)

Dual charger $25

Total $205 +tax

You will have the option to replace the battery on the go with the VTR vs the MPV. and it looks beautiful




JMTC (just my two cents)


Still not sure why my pictures are posting sideways. It only happens on E-cig forum.

 

[cynicz]

Wow if you need to ask whether or not the 1.8 or the 2.8 is "Better" you certainly have a lot to learn. I suggest you research the terms OHM and RESISTANCE here on the forum. At the top right of this page is a search box. Type in OHM and Resistance and do some reading.

Ohms/Resistance- They mean the same thing. They are just a number for how much the coils resist heat. 1.8 has lower ohms/resistance, so you need less heat to vaporize the juice. Heat is dictated by the voltage/wattage you have set on your device. A non-variable voltage device averages at around 3.3-3.7 volts for most of the charge of the device until it stops working & its time to recharge.

You want a lower resistance coil for a non-variable voltage device. 1.8 would be better in this instance. For a variable voltage device like the MVP or the MVP2, you can use most any resistance/ohm coil heads because you can CHANGE the voltage. A good voltage is usually around 2 numbers higher than the ohms of your heads. 1.8ohm head is good around 3.8 volts. a 2.8 head is good around 4.8 volts. Get it?

You definitely should do a bit of research about resistance/ohms and voltage/wattage before deciding on a good device for you. You may like the idea of only buying low resistance heads for an eGo battery. Or you may enjoy buying any resistance head for a VV mod.

Yes I did ask what is better. Not necessarily better in general but better for what I'm looking for. I've seen vids of people running Lr with VV bats. In particular 4.3v on a 1.2ohm aty and it blew massive clouds. What I'm looking at is the following

Ego v3 mega vv/vw
Either vivi nova with 3.5ml tank OR iclear 30s dual coil

iTaste VTR $120

Two MNKE 1500 Batts $40

Protank 2 $20 (or use the tank it comes with and save $20)

Dual charger $25

Total $205 +tax

You will have the option to replace the battery on the go with the VTR vs the MPV. and it looks beautiful

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JMTC (just my two cents)


Still not sure why my pictures are posting sideways. It only happens on E-cig forum.

Sounds like a good setup I just find the box style vapes don't seem appealing to me

 

[Baditude]

iTaste VTR $120

Two MNKE 1500 Batts $40

Curious to know why you are recommending a low-mAh, high-amp battery for the VTR? High-amp batteries like MNKE are rather overkill for a regulated mod that can't do sub-ohm coils. Do you know something that I don't?