Help!!! TPA red hots flavor (PG)

[bsoplinger]

If, upon shaking a flavoring with the VG or PG base, the mix turns milky, then something in the flavoring simply is not soluble in the base (or alternately, something in the flavoring is attacking the bottle and that material is insoluble in the VG or PG).

Yeah, what he said

I really like the teaberry flavor. When looking into DIY, the guides for the Lorann flavor marked it as a semi soluble. Their flavoring agent contains an oil that mixes well enough with pg/vg that it can be vaped. Cracks tanks like crazy. Turns milky while when I shake the bottle. Behaves just like what you're seeing with the cinnamon flavor.

As far as the yellow color you're getting, that's simply the natural color of the cinnamon oil. If you've ever bought raw cinnamon, the bark, you'd know it's a brown tree bark. The oil within the bark is yellow. When you get the colloidal suspension of the oil in VG its color becomes very pronounced because you've got bazillions of tiny individual drops of oil (yellow) and just as many drops of VG (frosty) producing the milky yellow.

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[AndriaD]

http://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?msdsId=9923482

Cinnamaldehyde - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Well, I checked out these links; they tell me, in geek-speak, what it is, but neither link had anything to say about its effects on HDPE. All I know is what I saw: in a .4mL tank, almost full of an e-juice made entirely with a PG base, one drop caused the tank to cloud, like an "etching" effect. I removed the tank, rinsed it, and let it dry for several hours, but the clouding was still there. I don't care about this in a cosmetic way; what concerns me is the possibility that in the etching, it is de-stabilizing the HDPE so that when I breathe the vapor, I am inhaling molecules of HDPE along with the e-juice vapor. I don't know if that's harmful in a general way, but to an asthmatic, inhaling molecules of a high-density polymer, or, potentially, metabolites of that polymer, really sounds like a bad idea. So I'll wait on the iTaste/ARO so I know for sure that I am not inhaling potentially harmful polymer molecules.

Andria

 

[Jimi D.]

Well, I checked out these links; they tell me, in geek-speak, what it is, but neither link had anything to say about its effects on HDPE. All I know is what I saw: in a .4mL tank, almost full of an e-juice made entirely with a PG base, one drop caused the tank to cloud, like an "etching" effect. I removed the tank, rinsed it, and let it dry for several hours, but the clouding was still there. I don't care about this in a cosmetic way; what concerns me is the possibility that in the etching, it is de-stabilizing the HDPE so that when I breathe the vapor, I am inhaling molecules of HDPE along with the e-juice vapor. I don't know if that's harmful in a general way, but to an asthmatic, inhaling molecules of a high-density polymer, or, potentially, metabolites of that polymer, really sounds like a bad idea. So I'll wait on the iTaste/ARO so I know for sure that I am not inhaling potentially harmful polymer molecules.

Andria

Yep, I stay away from the stuff. It hurts my lungs anyway.