Help, why do my cartos keep flooding?????

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omenwolf

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I have 2 carto tanks that keep flooding on me. Why do they do this and how can I stop it.
First one is a smoktech pyrex carto tank and I am using the prepunched boge low res xl cartos.

second one is a smaller tank I donty know the name of but they are using the shorter prepunched cartos too.
the second one I have a second tank and it never floods with the same cartos.
any help is greatly appreciated.
 

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How many holes are in the cartos? What liquid ratio are you using? Have you tried using boge?

I wouldn't think it would be the O-rings if it suddenly happened to both, but lube them tubes! :) I haven't had to change my O-rings on any of mine by making sure the carto slides in without struggling on the o-rings.
 

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I have 2 carto tanks that keep flooding on me. Why do they do this and how can I stop it.
First one is a smoktech pyrex carto tank and I am using the prepunched boge low res xl cartos.

second one is a smaller tank I don't know the name of but they are using the shorter prepunched cartos too.
the second one I have a second tank and it never floods with the same cartos.
any help is greatly appreciated.

Same cartos flood in one tank but not another tank. Is the juice the same? If it is, there is a difference in the tanks. I have not experienced this, but I will say I believe it is vacuum related.

I can say this. I can make my Mom and Pop sub tanks burn or flood almost immediately by punching smaller or bigger holes in Boge cartos. LR and SR behave the same. These tanks have filler screws which probably vent them. Cartos also start flooding when they get gunked up after being used for a while. Different juices make a huge difference in how long this takes.

And that's all I've got. Sorry I couldn't help more.
 
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juice is pink spot ras lemonade and the smaller tank carto is brand new and the larger is only a couple days old. The othe tank that does not do this has pink spot juice in it also so I don't think that's the issue. It has been really hot and muggy here and it mostly hapopens when I go to work and its hotter there.
 

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The heat definitely has something to do with it. Juices seem to become thinner in hot weather and wick much quicker as a result - too quick in some cases!

We had a heatwave here in the UK earlier this summer which lasted for about a month. I had to completely give up on my faithful pre-punched (3 hole) SmokTech cartos. Punching my own Boges (with just one hole) solved the problem instantly. Now that temperatures are back to normal I've started using the SmokTechs again and they're performing jut as well as they always used to.

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An observation to share:

  • I believe those Smoktech Pyrex tanks have a juice fill hole, correct? These tanks have been known to flood cartomizers. The problem is as someone noted, a vacumm issue while filling the tank. If the fill hole is completely obstructed while adding juice with either a needle-nosed tip bottle or needle syringe, pressure backs up too high in the tank and forces too much juice into the carto. A better techique is to allow some space inside the fill hole, perhaps with a finer needle, thereby allowing air to escape from the tank as juice is entering the tank. PBusardo demonstrated this issue in the following video on the AGR pyrex tank.



Hopefully this solves the issue.
 
I won't be much help here, but could sure use some help. It seems nearly EVERY DC carto I try has the same issue...constant flooding. (Tried dual coil slotteds and dual coil double pre-punched Smok cartos.) The only cartos which haven't done this are pre-punched (two hole) 3 ohm single coils (Smoks, I think), but these didn't produce enough vapor for me.

Currently experiencing this, YET AGAIN, with a brand new Smok pyrex DCT with 1.5 ohm DC Carto (two hole, pre-punched). I love the hit and flavor of a DCT, on the rare ocaisions when they're not flooding. What am I doing wrong with these?

My iClear30s work great, but the hit & flavor just aren't as good as a properly working DCT.

-FRUSTRATED in FL
 
Okay...okay....
So...the heat and humidity thing...that's my life...it seems like its ALWAYS hot and humid here. (I've been here just under a year, and I'm still not used to it.)

I've also been experimenting with my draw, a bit. It seems a slower, gentler, longer draw is minimizing (almost eliminating) the flooding...but...HOLY THROAT HIT, BATMAN!

I've actually determined 2 of my go-to juices, which are killer (in a bad way) in this DCT, if this is the way I have to draw on it to prevent flooding.

One is a double-flavor Lemonade in 24mg, which MIGHT be okay in this tank at regular flavor and 12 or 18mg, which I just don't anticipate satisfying my need for nic.

That same juice, in an iClear30, which I hit HARD, delivers a definite punch in the throat...but one which is bareable. I also get FAR more visible vapor out of it in the iClear30. Is this just the nature of the beast with a DCT?

:-/

P.S.: The posting regarding a fill hole does not apply, as these do not have a fill hole, yet the posting and link were very informative.
 

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Okay...okay....
So...the heat and humidity thing...that's my life...it seems like its ALWAYS hot and humid here. (I've been here just under a year, and I'm still not used to it.)

I've also been experimenting with my draw, a bit. It seems a slower, gentler, longer draw is minimizing (almost eliminating) the flooding...but...HOLY THROAT HIT, BATMAN!

I've actually determined 2 of my go-to juices, which are killer (in a bad way) in this DCT, if this is the way I have to draw on it to prevent flooding.

One is a double-flavor Lemonade in 24mg, which MIGHT be okay in this tank at regular flavor and 12 or 18mg, which I just don't anticipate satisfying my need for nic.

That same juice, in an iClear30, which I hit HARD, delivers a definite punch in the throat...but one which is bareable. I also get FAR more visible vapor out of it in the iClear30. Is this just the nature of the beast with a DCT?

:-/

P.S.: The posting regarding a fill hole does not apply, as these do not have a fill hole, yet the posting and link were very informative.

Hi - sorry I'm a bit confused. You have too much or too little throat hit? What pg/vg ratio are you using?
 

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The heat definitely makes a difference. I work in an air conditioned office in Texas, get in the car after work and have to wait 20 minutes on my juice to thicken back up once the AC cools the car off. If i draw on my carto even once before they cool back off I flood it. I have had horrible luck with Smok DCT slotted 1.5ohm cartos. They constantly gurgle with my 50/50 liquids. I close my eyes and pray every time i take a puff that i dont get a mouth full of juice. I use Boge 2.0 single coil pre-punched with the 1mm holes on both sides and I have NEVER (knock on wood) flooded one. My tanks are generic fasttech 5-pack 6ml carto tanks and one Ravens nest (to match my vamo of course).
 

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Okay...okay....
So...the heat and humidity thing...that's my life...it seems like its ALWAYS hot and humid here. (I've been here just under a year, and I'm still not used to it.)

I just returned from a little beach time down in your neck of the woods, Panama City, and my primary devices, the Smok DCTs were nearly useless. Any time they left the condo, floodsville. After 2 days I just resigned myself to leaving them in the cool condo where they worked fine. For going out and about, EVODs only (which flooded even, but far less). I wondered if folks who lived down there could ever use carto tanks. I would think a higher VG juice would help. If you have any Boba's or another all VG liquid, see if that helps.
 
Hi - sorry I'm a bit confused. You have too much or too little throat hit? What pg/vg ratio are you using?

I can't provide a definitive answer regarding to PG/VG ratio on the 2 juices in question. They were purchased from a local retailer, Vaping Sisters, which is great for allowing variations (upon special request) of flavor density and nic, but uses a set (and not clearly provided) PG/VG ratio for each flavor.

Both of the flavors in question (Lemonade and Frozen Lime) have strong throat hit in my iClear30s and other tanks I have tried them in. In the DCT, however, I find these have an UNBEARABLY-STRONG throat hit.

I'm currently using a 50/50 juice from VaporLabz in my DCT. The throat hit is stronger than in my attys (not rediculously strong...but definitely stronger than in attys), but the increased flavor is definitely worth it for this juice.

Flooding SEEMS stopped by drawing on the DCT differently than on my attys.
 
I just returned from a little beach time down in your neck of the woods, Panama City, and my primary devices, the Smok DCTs were nearly useless. Any time they left the condo, floodsville. After 2 days I just resigned myself to leaving them in the cool condo where they worked fine. For going out and about, EVODs only (which flooded even, but far less). I wondered if folks who lived down there could ever use carto tanks. I would think a higher VG juice would help. If you have any Boba's or another all VG liquid, see if that helps.

I did have a lot of problems with slotted cartos flooding due to the heat (I suspect) even when not in use, if/when taken outside, but it appears the 50/50 is workin well in the Smok DCs...SO LONG AS MY DRAW IS SLOW & CONSISTANT.

This, it would seem, was the biggest culprit in my flooding problems...especially since my primary equipment is iClear30s, which have significantly more restricted airflow, requiring a much more forceful draw to produce heavy vapor.

In addition to the significantly increased TH, I also find the vapor from the DCTs is not as thick/heavy as from my attys.

Higher VG for that, or is my draw and/or voltage/wattage setting (using SVD) likely still in need of adjustment?

Thanks SO MUCH, everyone.

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