Help with first starter kit decision

[Pensilac]

So I'm looking to maybe switch from smoking cigs to ecigs but after reading through this forum a bit, seems there's a lot to wrap my head around. Read some of the guides and what not and it just made deciding even harder. Not to mention, a lot of the guides seem to be quite dated and I'm not sure just how useful the info is anymore.

Was thinking of just picking up one of them Blu kits to try it but from what I've heard, that seems like it'd be a bit of a mistake. I'd rather spend a little more on something that I could rely on a bit. I've mainly been looking at the iTaste MVP 2.0 as I've seen it come up quite a bit in my short 2 days of skimming through here, seems to be highly recommended. Would it be a good choice for someone that has never really vaped before? The other I've looked at is the Vamo but I'm much more interested in the MVP, not sure why though.

If I were to get the MVP, does the kit that goes for around $50-60 include everything I need to start or would I need to get some other things as well? If so, what else would I need? Also, if there are some other suggestions for a first ecig that I have missed, which I'm sure there are many, please feel free to enlighten me.

 

[Papadragon]

You need the mpv !! A tank . Eliquid and that's it !!

 

[ShariR]

Hi and welcome to ECF. The MVP2 is an excellent device to start with. It comes with a built in battery and an USB charging cord. You would need to get a USB to wall adapter (wall wart). And you would need to pick a delivery device. Some MVP kits come with the iclear 16 or the iclear 30. You would need to pick up at least 5 or preferably more extra heads (coils w/wicks) that you can replace it the iclear when one gets worn. These heads can be rebuilt and rewicked, but that is for another day.

You would also need to choose another device for your backup to be used when the MVP2 is charging. I use Vision Spinners 1300mah. They are variable voltage (vv) so you can enjoy a similar vape experience to your MVP.

I quit smoking using 2 spinners and evods and a 510 atty for dripping. I just got my MVP2 last week and love all my gear. You can also pick up a cheap 650 ego battery for when your MVP2 is charging but the MVP2 will spoil you.

You will need to find some good juices to vape. I like sweetened tobaccos and some caramelly dessert and coffee flavors. Many like fruits. It depends on your individual tastes. Here is a thread with a list of people's top 5 vendors. This will help you see who the popular vendors are. Buy samples from several. Every vendor's vanilla tastes a little different.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...discussion/304212-top-5-vendors-e-liquid.html

There will be other people along soon and posting with their recommendations. Read up on the picks and then choose what you think will work for you.

 

[Falcon13]

I bought an MVP after getting sick and tired of the cig-a-likes. i have tried a few different ones and I love the MVP. and yes I bought mine at a local retail shop for @$65 bucks came with a usb cord with the 3 main adapters micro and mini usb and ithingy 2 i16 tanks only thing you need to buy extra is juice =) My recommendation is if you can find a vape shop in your area that lets you try some of the different flavors they have that way you can get a taste of what is it before you buy it. and that and you might like a different set up as well. Personally I am very glad i got the MVP.

 

[All4MyFam]

Agree with the iTaste MVP II. I'd get the kanger protank II to use with it as well as a pack of replacement heads and if you read up on dry burning your coil heads, they can last many weeks

Sunvapors.com is a good place to get your protank and replacement heads.
C2Cvaping.com to get the best price on your iTaste MVP II.

Good luck!

 

[meanckz]

there is a $40 kit on 101vape (gosh, they're out of stock again) that has everything you need to start with, except liquid and wall plug (usb cable, iClear 30 big tank, beauty ring incl.)
for liquids you might want to find a local vape store Electric Cigarette|Eliquid|Supplies|Electronic Cigarette|Ejuice|Smokeless|Vapor Search USA in your area and try some

 

[Pensilac]

Thanks for all the responses so far, seems the MVP is the way to go I guess!.

Unless I'm missing something, I don't think I'll really need a wall plug as I have ample access to a usb port. If they are available though, something I could use in my car with the lighter would be nice.

Would the pro tanks be the way to go? Anything I should know about them vs. other options? Also, are there any specific "heads" I should look at?

 

[madqatter]

Was thinking of just picking up one of them Blu kits to try it but from what I've heard, that seems like it'd be a bit of a mistake. I'd rather spend a little more on something that I could rely on a bit.

I think you're on the right track looking for something better than the Blu kit.

I've mainly been looking at the iTaste MVP 2.0 as I've seen it come up quite a bit in my short 2 days of skimming through here, seems to be highly recommended. Would it be a good choice for someone that has never really vaped before?

The MVP2 would be an excellent choice. It's got great battery life and for an advanced personal vaporizer it's both inexpensive and relatively easy to understand and operate. Many of us have one.

If I were to get the MVP, does the kit that goes for around $50-60 include everything I need to start or would I need to get some other things as well? If so, what else would I need?

As mentioned above, it comes with a tank, for which you should get some replacement coil heads to have on hand. You will also need juice. If you get the MVP kit at Mt Baker Vapor, it would come with one bottle of your choice and be easy to order more at the same time, but there are other options, of course.

(NOTE: Juices from Mt Baker, like any freshly made juices, may need some time to mature before they taste good. This is especially true of the more complex flavors that need time to blend. Mt Baker recommends anywhere from 2 to 4 weeks for some flavors. For this reason, I would recommend looking around for at least one juice you like at a local vape shop, and getting a bottle that's already been sitting for a couple of weeks at least. That way you can vape while other orders age a little.)

A wall adapter would be a good addition. You would either need an adapter compatible with the MVP's cable (up to 5.5V 500mA) OR a wall plug with its own mini USB cable (e.g. for a cell phone).

Also, if there are some other suggestions for a first ecig that I have missed, which I'm sure there are many, please feel free to enlighten me.

At some point, you will need a backup and probably some extra tanks anyway. ECF folks always recommend having a backup and, preferably, a backup for your backup. You never know when something might get lost or broken, and you don't want to be stuck without something that works.

You could get a second MVP. Plenty of people do-- it's a great unit.

Another option would be a different kit. Perhaps the most recommended kit for beginners is this build-your-own starter kit, but my personal favorite recommendation is this starter kit. The batteries in these kits are not as sophisticated as the MVP, but they're still good stuff, easy to use, and would give you some variety. Getting one of these two kits in addition to the MVP would also mean you'd have three batteries total: your MVP, a backup, and a backup for your backup.

there is a $40 kit on 101vape (gosh, they're out of stock again) that has everything you need to start with, except liquid and wall plug (usb cable, iClear 30 big tank, beauty ring incl.)

Sadly, I think 101Vape is out of stock again.

 

[madqatter]

If they are available though, something I could use in my car with the lighter would be nice.

Get a phone car charger with micro USB.

Would the pro tanks be the way to go?

I like Kanger Protanks a lot. I think they're relatively easy to use.

Also, are there any specific "heads" I should look at?

Coil heads that are compatible with the tank or tanks you get. If you get an MVP with the iClear 30, get heads designed for the iClear 30. If you get a Protank as well, get Kanger coil heads. Because the MVP has variable voltage and variable wattage, I'd get something around 2.2 to 2.5 ohms.

 

[DKP#]

Congratulations! You wont be sorry. Its nice to have shiny things instead of a pile of butts to show for your nicotine habit.

I suggest starting with an ego twist or vision spinner. I started with a cigalike disposable and worked my way up. Didn't quit until I got a vv (variable voltage) battery and a vivi nova mini so everything before that was wasted money. I prefer the warm vape of a "top coil clearomizer" like the nova or CE5.
This is the clearo I finally quit on and still use. Sturdy and comes with 2 spare heads for $8 (2ml) and one of the few things I can recommend without reservation. http://altsmoke.com/vision-vivi-replacement-coil-tank-kit.html. If you get a nova, make sure it's Vision brand.

Don't know how much you want to spend. This kit is recommended a lot and the price is reasonable.
http://www.myvaporstore.com/Vision_Spinner_Joye_Ego_C_Twist_Combo_p/vvs-c.htm

If you're not ready to spend that much and just want to give it a try, you could get a twist or spinner battery and a CE5 clearomizer.
The CE5 works fine but isn't real durable. You also need a ego charger and wall adapter. (you could even wait on the wall adapter)
Look around on Best Electronic Cigarettes and E-Liquid - MyFreedomSmokes.com or DiscountVapers - Your source for savings on electronic cigarettes and accessories, Go-go eGo, vGo

If you don't mind the larger size, An APV like the SVD, Vamo, Sid, ect makes the best economical sense because the batteries are replaceable for about $10. An SVD and nitecore charger from fasttech and two 2900mAh batteries from orbtronic(US) will run you about $75.
Could take over a month to get stuff from fasttech though.
$37.21 INNOKIN iTaste SVD Telescoping Variable Voltage E-Cigarette Mod / Battery Compartment at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
http://www.fasttech.com/products/0/...ore-i2-lithium-li-ion-ni-mh-ni-cd-smart-batte
NCR18650PD 18650 Panasonic Rechargeable Li-ion Battery Flat Top

The MVP is disposable and I suspect much of the talk about it is stealth marketing. Much better for manufactures and vendors to secure your next purchase rather than have it go to battery manufactures. It does have simplicity on it's side and some people prefer the smaller box form.

Welcome to vaping and ECF.

 

[thaiad24]

I chose an Itaste VW V3 for my 1st kit, i added a Davide mini on to it and I think it works and looks great for a 1st kit

The pack came with some iclear 16's which also are great but I prefer the Davide mini

Innokin are a pretty good make so the MVP would also be a good choice

 

[dapio45]

So I'm looking to maybe switch from smoking cigs to ecigs but after reading through this forum a bit, seems there's a lot to wrap my head around. Read some of the guides and what not and it just made deciding even harder. Not to mention, a lot of the guides seem to be quite dated and I'm not sure just how useful the info is anymore.

Was thinking of just picking up one of them Blu kits to try it but from what I've heard, that seems like it'd be a bit of a mistake. I'd rather spend a little more on something that I could rely on a bit. I've mainly been looking at the iTaste MVP 2.0 as I've seen it come up quite a bit in my short 2 days of skimming through here, seems to be highly recommended. Would it be a good choice for someone that has never really vaped before? The other I've looked at is the Vamo but I'm much more interested in the MVP, not sure why though.

If I were to get the MVP, does the kit that goes for around $50-60 include everything I need to start or would I need to get some other things as well? If so, what else would I need? Also, if there are some other suggestions for a first ecig that I have missed, which I'm sure there are many, please feel free to enlighten me.

The I taste MVP 2.0 is now variable wattage and variable voltage. Definitely a great starter kit as it comes with an I clear 30 now, and a charger. The I taste VV is also a great starter device that comes with a charger, however, it does not come with a tank. I do highly recommend the Pro Tank 2, or perhaps even hold off for the Pro Tank 3's to come out. They are going to be dual coiled, and I am highly anticipating their arrival.

 

[chabos]

Hey Pensilac, I just started myself and don't worry, I know your pain. The incredible variety and sophisticated technology in the e cig world is awesome, but also makes for one of the most confusing learning curves out there. I still have quite a ways to go until I would no longer consider myself a noob, however I would like to give you some advice based on the mistakes I made buying a starter kit. I went with a Halo G6, and while it works just fine there are a few things I didn't like about it. The big ones were the low mAhs on the G6 batteries (the biggest battery was still under 400 mAh), the KR808 connection (makes it very difficult to find carts, clearos, and attys since all major brands use 510 or Ego) and the lack of variable voltage. Fortunately the MVP seems to have none of these problems. But although the battery looks awesome, there are a few things you should note about the clearos it comes with. First is that they're plastic. This means that you can't use certain juices or they will crack the plastic (somewhere on the forum there's a thread about what kinds of juices will cause this). Second is that they are top coils. Top coils rely entirely on the wick (as opposed to bottom coils, which can partially rely on gravity). This means a longer wick, which is going to cause burnt taste to happen a lot sooner as you near the end of the tank. When you get burnt taste you often can only get rid of it by washing out the clearo, so all the eliquid left on the wicks gets wasted. You will also need to soak the wicks by turning the clearo upside down, which is easy but leads to burnt taste if you forget to do it. The plus side is that they are much easier to fill than bottom coils. I just got a bottom coil EVOD yesterday, and I've been getting juice everywhere . Another bonus about the iclear 30 in particular is that it seems to be one of the only dual coil clearomizers available right now (dual coil will produce more vapor than a single coil). Fortunately since the MVP supports both 510 and Ego connections, you will be able to use almost any popular delivery system out there, so you are in no way stuck with the plastic iclears. If the issues I described above are a deal breaker for you, you could always order just the battery and charging cable and then get clearos from somewhere else. If you go with the iclear and decide you like the dual coils but not the plastic and top coil design, I believe Kanger will be releasing their new dual coil protank 3 later this month. Also, the kit does technically have everything you need to get started, I would recommend getting some replacement heads too, as you will end up needing them eventually one way or another. You could also get heads with a different resistance than the ones that come with the tanks, which will allow you to play around more with different voltage/wattage settings. As another user pointed out, you may also want to get a back up battery for while you're charging the MVP. If you're just using the MVP for vaping, the 1800 mAh should be plenty to get all but super heavy vapers through the day so you could just plug it in when you're sleeping. However if you intend to use the USB charger functionality that probably has a significant effect on battery life. For a backup I would recommend an EVOD kit with a VV battery (Kanger makes a battery that is specifically threaded to fit the EVOD, that's the one you want). EVODs get pretty awesome reviews from a lot of people on ECF. Personally I love mine, although I don't have anything to compare it to other than the G6. The only problem is that a lot of the pieces get subtly displaced very easily, leading to burnt taste and very sticky fingers when I have to open it up to put everything back into place. I'd imagine this is an issue with most (if not all) clearos with replaceable parts though. One last thing to consider is a small pen form factor vape. They feel a lot more like a cigarette than anything else, so if you think switching is at all going to be a problem for you that might help. Any way, that's all I have to say on the subject, and by the time I finally post this there will probably have been answers from people way more knowledgeable than myself, but oh well. Good luck with the first kit/quitting analogues.
P.S. You will also of course need eliquid. I've only tried Mt Baker so far, but they're ridiculously cheap and tasty enough that I haven't even bothered looking at other vendors. I think there's a 10% off code or something like that in the coupons page.

 

[norcalmike]

vapingtown2013 | eBay

this guy has great prices on MVP2 and protanks

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Was thinking of just picking up one of them Blu kits to try it but from what I've heard, that seems like it'd be a bit of a mistake. I'd rather spend a little more on something that I could rely on a bit. I've mainly been looking at the iTaste MVP 2.0 as I've seen it come up quite a bit in my short 2 days of skimming through here, seems to be highly recommended. Would it be a good choice for someone that has never really vaped before? The other I've looked at is the Vamo but I'm much more interested in the MVP, not sure why though

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I own the Vamo V2 (9 months) and V3 (5 months) and although mine work fine the quality seems to be hit and miss with some vapers. Just received the MVP 2 and it's very obviously built with quality in mind. Innokin products seem to be a higher quality than competing products.

 

[Mark Anthony]

MVP 2 is an awesome vv/vw mod.... do whatever it takes to get your hands on one.... beginner.... vaping for 5 years... doesn't matter. Get one!!!

 

[Sldplaw]

I just started myself over the weekend. I have not had a real cigarette in 2 days. I picked up a Foos kit and it came with everything I needed except for juice. I picked up a couple flavors to get started and try. My favorite so far is a mix of coffee and missouri blend. I also picked up some extra tanks. The tanks I got don't require me to put them together or change anything out. I'm not ready for all that but they were only $5.99 each. The battery lasts all day. I charge it when I go to bed at night. I am happy with it so far but it is the first one it have tried. And it is working so far. Good luck to you!!

 

[Pensilac]

vapingtown2013 | eBay

this guy has great prices on MVP2 and protanks

Thanks for the link, that seems like a great price! Fast shipping too,

Thanks everyone else as well for your responses, you''re all very helpful. I think I'm going to go with the MVP 2 kit and a Protank. Just have to figure out where I should pick up some juice now.

If anyone else has any input, feel free to chime in,

 

[Weizenheimer]

My wife bought a Blu kit locally. It was a terrible pain to deal with and was replaced about 2 weeks later. Funny thing is you can actually get something better for LESS money right here eGo 650mAh w/ CE4 Clearomizer Blister Pack Starter Kit - MyFreedomSmokes.com or if you don't mind ebay even better right here Ego C Blister Pack Starter Kit 1100 mAh Battery CE5 CE4 New 2013 Vaporizer | eBay

14 bucks for an ego 1100 mah + ce4 + charger with free shipping.

 

[Wampa Poacher]

Thanks for the link, that seems like a great price! Fast shipping too,

Thanks everyone else as well for your responses, you''re all very helpful. I think I'm going to go with the MVP 2 kit and a Protank. Just have to figure out where I should pick up some juice now.

If anyone else has any input, feel free to chime in,

Maybe start another thread for that question, if you don't get good results. Taste if subjective, there for where to get your juice is too. However imo there are definitely good and bad vendors out there. For my dessert flavors my go to is Ms. T's Bakery, holy cow that's some good juice!

Test out some different juices from reputable vendors, just don't ever pay over $1 a mL no need to imo

Oh ya and I have the iTaste VV which was recommended here in the thread a few times already. It is great I love this battery, there is a great starter kit from fasttech.com that includes the battery, charging cable, wall adapter, and FIVE iClear16s for $40! Pretty awesome deal