Help with last couple years changes in vaping

[Cages2Clouds]

Hello, so I have not vaped in a couple years and im starting to do so again and ive noticed a few changes that id alpreciate some help with. First squonking, i know its a mod with a juice compartment but can you tell me about the perfomance on squonk mods, squonk pins, and if i should avoid a rda/rdta with a squonk pen if i never plan on using it ie. Doe it somehow cusr more leaking or effect perofomance/taste etc.?

Also when i last vaped pretty much every rda had three or more posts for quod builds and now i see mostly dual builds but the coils seem to be longer. Has the dual coil or dual coil with longer coils bested quad coil builds? What can you tell me about that?

My favorite rda was the Kennedey II with a simple quod coil build maybe 4-5 wraps each and favorite tank was the Herakles, have RDA's, RTA's gotten better or about the same?

I'm seeing far fewer mechanical mods or unregulated box mods how come and why do most of the box mods look a bit...toyish? Like seem to be made of plastic or gimmicky instead of detailed metal etc. On the outside

Finally, I'd love to hear your 3 favorite RDA'S/RTA's/RDTA's that focus primarily on Flavour and clouds. Hope to hear from you guys soon!

 

[bombastinator]

Squonk able RDAs generally also come with a solid pin too so there’s no leakage problem.

I’m fond of the aromamizer plus for those reasons, it’s not for everyone though. Wicking is a bit more complicated than average and it’s a 30mm mod

 

[Sickbxy]

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[Sickbxy]

Squonking is pretty much the future, there is much less leaking than RTA/ RDTAs and you have a much larger juice supply while being easier to build; plus, no more dripping and driving. If you choose to use the RDA as a normal dripper, just swap out the hollow pin with a solid pin. Most RDAs have the solid pin pre-installed by default and the squonk pin either comes in the accessory bag or you have to buy it separately. Most manufacturers want to call their RDA squonkable, it is possible with many, but, not all execute it all that great in reality. A perfect example is the CSMNT, you have to buy a conversion kit and in the end, it is not squonkable.

Tube mods are much more of a niche market, most BM store only carry two or three sub standard brands, if any at all. There are too many safety concerns with random noobs being dumb, opens up too much liability. For quality tube mods now a days check out Rig Mods and Sub Ohm Innovations. I personally use a single battery unregulated squonk box mod called the DotSquonk.

Most BM carry cheap Chinese stuff because it sells and they can not compete with the online market when it comes to quality and hobbiest gear. The boards on today’s regulated mods have come a looong ways and can do some amazing stuff when it comes to consistant hits and even temperature control. I love my Vicious Ant Knight TC mod, the “gimmicky” stuff is well executed with the YiHi 550j chip and it is a beautiful, well machined mod.

There is no need for quad builds with multicore fused claptons and other exotic builds. Most deck and built for large dual coil set ups.

RDAs I like are the: Goon 1.5 that sits on my knight; CSMNT sits on my juice tester; Dead Rabbit sits on my DotMod squonker. I have the DotRDA coming on Monday and my Dead Rabbit will most likely getting retired at that point. As far as tanks, I liked the Alpine RDTA, but it was retired once I started squonking.

 

[Baditude]

First squonking, i know its a mod with a juice compartment but can you tell me about the perfomance on squonk mods, squonk pins, and if i should avoid a rda/rdta with a squonk pen if i never plan on using it ie. Doe it somehow cusr more leaking or effect perofomance/taste etc.?

I've tried a couple of different squonk mods, including a gently used Reo; they just didn't fit my past or current way I like to vape. I do like them in theory and may try one out again in the future.

Also when i last vaped pretty much every rda had three or more posts for quod builds and now i see mostly dual builds but the coils seem to be longer. Has the dual coil or dual coil with longer coils bested quad coil builds? What can you tell me about that?

I think the tendency today is to get away from quad coils. They have a LOT of mass which increases ramp up time and draw more amps from the battery and hence drain the batteries faster. With longer dual coils you still can get a lot of surface area without too much mass. That's how I feel, anyway.

I'm seeing far fewer mechanical mods or unregulated box mods how come and why do most of the box mods look a bit...toyish? Like seem to be made of plastic or gimmicky instead of detailed metal etc.

You're going to find people that prefer either a mech or a regulated mod for various reasons. I prefer a regulated mod because I can adjust my vaping preference (change the wattage setting) on the fly, and I like the bonus of protection circuitry for safety. It's nice having a voltage and ohm meter on the mod, too.

Metal tube mechs can be a pipe bomb waiting to happen to the uninformed or careless user. They have their limitations in power output as a single battery device as well. No protection circuity is a huge negative for me.

A Beginner's Guide to Your First Mechanical Mod

If you look around harder you should be able to find some nice looking wood or metal box mods.

Finally, I'd love to hear your 3 favorite RDA'S/RTA's/RDTA's that focus primarily on Flavour and clouds.

I rarely use my Kayfun RTA or my two RDA's, a Velocity clone and authentic Patriot. Of those, my favorite is the Velocity. Two large posts with four large leg holes, decent juice well, wide variance of air control, and plenty of deck space for a dual coil build. Easy to build on.

Velocity RDA

I've become a lazy vaper and don't like having to change my wick every 3 - 4 days in a dripper. My current atomizer is an original Uwell Crown clearomizer tank. I simply fill the tank once a day and change the drop in coil once a month. As far as I am concerned I get the same flavor and vapor production as the rebuildables but far more convenient to ME. My review of the Crown 1 is the second post here: Tanks & RDA's Ratings & Explanations

 

[Cages2Clouds]

Squonk able RDAs generally also come with a solid pin too so there’s no leakage problem.

I’m fond of the aromamizer plus for those reasons, it’s not for everyone though. Wicking is a bit more complicated than average and it’s a 30mm mod

Any solutions to help with wicking and does the pen get in the way of building?

 

[Cages2Clouds]

Squonking is pretty much the future, there is much less leaking than RTA/ RDTAs and you have a much larger juice supply while being easier to build; plus, no more dripping and driving. If you choose to use the RDA as a normal dripper, just swap out the hollow pin with a solid pin. Most RDAs have the solid pin pre-installed by default and the squonk pin either comes in the accessory bag or you have to buy it separately. Most manufacturers want to call their RDA squonkable, it is possible with many, but, not all execute it all that great in reality. A perfect example is the CSMNT, you have to buy a conversion kit and in the end, it is not squonkable.

Tube mods are much more of a niche market, most BM store only carry two or three sub standard brands, if any at all. There are too many safety concerns with random noobs being dumb, opens up too much liability. For quality tube mods now a days check out Rig Mods and Sub Ohm Innovations. I personally use a single battery unregulated squonk box mod called the DotSquonk.

Most BM carry cheap Chinese stuff because it sells and they can not compete with the online market when it comes to quality and hobbiest gear. The boards on today’s regulated mods have come a looong ways and can do some amazing stuff when it comes to consistant hits and even temperature control. I love my Vicious Ant Knight TC mod, the “gimmicky” stuff is well executed with the YiHi 550j chip and it is a beautiful, well machined mod.

There is no need for quad builds with multicore fused claptons and other exotic builds. Most deck and built for large dual coil set ups.

RDAs I like are the: Goon 1.5 that sits on my knight; CSMNT sits on my juice tester; Dead Rabbit sits on my DotMod squonker. I have the DotRDA coming on Monday and my Dead Rabbit will most likely getting retired at that point. As far as tanks, I liked the Alpine RDTA, but it was retired once I started squonking.

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Wow, thanks for all the info! So does the squonking cause cleaning problems? I mean all that juice flowing through a hollow connector pin does it gunk up often?

Is the Dot Squonk from the same people who made the Dot RDA's and mods? If so is there assumingly higher price worth it or are you paying for a name? How would you say it compares to the Athena from Geek?

Building simple coils was one thing but i dont think id want to build the exotic coils how many wraps should i aim to do for a large dual coil build? If i wanted to buy pre built coils exotic or other wise where should i head?

Ive heard a lot about the Drop RDA, any thoughts on it and how it compares to the Dot RDA?

 

[Baditude]

Any solutions to help with wicking and does the pen get in the way of building?

The pin shouldn't get in the way of building. The BF pin doesn't extend out very far from the build deck and will be below your coil. When you gently "squonk" your bottle, juice will saturate the coil and wick, and with most BF drippers the excess should drain back down into the bottle.

Wick like you would any other dripper coil.

 

[Sickbxy]

Wow, thanks for all the info! So does the squonking cause cleaning problems? I mean all that juice flowing through a hollow connector pin does it gunk up often?

Is the Dot Squonk from the same people who made the Dot RDA's and mods? If so is there assumingly higher price worth it or are you paying for a name? How would you say it compares to the Athena from Geek?

Building simple coils was one thing but i dont think id want to build the exotic coils how many wraps should i aim to do for a large dual coil build? If i wanted to buy pre built coils exotic or other wise where should i head?

Ive heard a lot about the Drop RDA, any thoughts on it and how it compares to the Dot RDA?

DotSquonk, DotMod, and DotRDA are all from the same company. Retail for the DotSquonk is $99, but you can often find it for 20-30% off online. I have been really happy with the build quality and design, goes beyond the brand with at least the mod so far. Infamous Vapes

I have not had any clogging or juice flow issues with the Dead Rabbit. My DotRDA is coming on Monday. I get my wire prebuilt for exotic wraps, my favorite is the quad core fused captions; I typically do 5 wrap 4.0 builds. I appreciate that they list ohm estimates on their web site. Spooled Quad Core Parallel Fused Clapton 316L SS (28gx4/36g) or (30gx4/40g)

 

[Cages2Clouds]

I've tried a couple of different squonk mods, including a gently used Reo; they just didn't fit my past or current way I like to vape. I do like them in theory and may try one out again in the future.





I think the tendency today is to get away from quad coils. They have a LOT of mass which increases ramp up time and draw more amps from the battery and hence drain the batteries faster. With longer dual coils you still can get a lot of surface area without too much mass. That's how I feel, anyway.

I'm currently using a JAC Vapour series B (for box) DNA75W. Made of stainless steel or an alloy, comfortable in the hand, pocket-friendly size. I think it is rather cute.

You're going to find people that prefer either a mech or a regulated mod for various reasons. I prefer a regulated mod because I can adjust my vaping preference (change the wattage setting) on the fly, and I like the bonus of protection circuitry for safety. It's nice having a voltage and ohm meter on the mod, too.

Metal tube mechs can be a pipe bomb waiting to happen to the uninformed. They have their limitations in power output as a single battery device. No protection circuity is a negative for me.

A Beginner's Guide to Your First Mechanical Mod

I rarely use my Kayfun RTA or my two RDA's, a Velocity clone and authentic Patriot. Of those, my favorite is the Velocity. Two large posts with four large leg holes, decent juice well, wide variance of air control, and plenty of deck space for a dual coil build. Easy to build on.

View attachment 732849 Velocity RDA

I've become a lazy vaper and don't like having to change my wick every 3 - 4 days in a dripper. My current atomizer is an original Uwell Crown clearomizer tank. I simply fill the tank once a day and change the drop in coil once a month. As far as I am concerned I get the same flavor and vapor production as the rebuildables but far more convenient to ME. My review of the Crown 1 is the second post here: Tanks & RDA's Ratings & Explanations

Thank you for all the info, how would you compare the Velocity RDA to the Drop disregaring ots squonk focus? How would you compare the Crown to the Big Baby Beast and any thoughts on the Smok G 150? Ive been looking at internal battery mods for convenience.

 

[Cages2Clouds]

DotSquonk, DotMod, and DotRDA are all from the same company. Retail for the DotSquonk is $99, but you can often find it for 20-30% off online. I have been really happy with the build quality and design, goes beyond the brand with at least the mod so far. Infamous Vapes

I have not had any clogging or juice flow issues with the Dead Rabbit. My DotRDA is coming on Monday. I get my wire prebuilt for exotic wraps, my favorite is the quad core fused captions; I typically do 5 wrap 4.0 builds. I appreciate that they list ohm estimates on their web site. Spooled Quad Core Parallel Fused Clapton 316L SS (28gx4/36g) or (30gx4/40g)

Last time i was really vaping was not long after exotic coil builds started showing up everywear and people started carrying power drills in their build kits but i didnt want the extra trouble lol how would you say the peeformance differs from standard coils, better im sure but how?

 

[bombastinator]

Any solutions to help with wicking and does the pen get in the way of building?

Wicking what? The aromamizer plus? There are several videos for it online. As for building an RDA with or without a squonk pin, generally no. The pin doesn’t even enter into building

 

[Sickbxy]

Last time i was really vaping was not long after exotic coil builds started showing up everywear and people started carrying power drills in their build kits but i didnt want the extra trouble lol how would you say the peeformance differs from standard coils, better im sure but how?

No need to have a drill if you have your wire premade unless you want to learn to spin it yourself. Much better flavor and clouds, I have a hard time even doing simple claptons now a days.

 

[Cages2Clouds]

The pin shouldn't get in the way of building. The BF pin doesn't extend out very far from the build deck and will be below your coil. When you gently "squonk" your bottle, juice will saturate the coil and wick, and with some drippers the excess should drain down back into the bottle.

Wick like you would any other dripper coil.

Right on, i heard something about a "Scottish Role" for cotton on squonks how does that help?

 

[Baditude]

Thank you for all the info, how would you compare the Velocity RDA to the Drop disregaring ots squonk focus? How would you compare the Crown to the Big Baby Beast and any thoughts on the Smok G 150? Ive been looking at internal battery mods for convenience.

Never used the Drop or the Big Baby Beast tank. If not mistaken, the SMOK tanks and coils require quite a bit of wattage (over 80 watts). I vape 30 watts with my Crown 1.

Crown 1 coils:​

• 0.15 ohm Dual Ni200 Nickel Uwell Crown Sub-Ohm Coil - 400 to 600 Degrees Fahrenheit
• 0.25 ohm Dual Stainless Steel Uwell Crown Sub-Ohm Coil - 80 to 120W
• 0.5 ohm Dual Stainless Steel Uwell Crown Sub-Ohm Coil - 30 to 80W
• 1.2 ohm Single Stainless Steel Uwell Crown Coil - 10 to 30W

​

Not a fan of internal battery mods. The LiPo chemistry is not a "safer" battery chemistry; they are much more likely to go "KaBoom!" than IMR.
If your internal battery drains dead then you can't vape. If you used external batteries you can simply carry a spare charged battery with you and continue to vape.
And that Lipo is eventually going to die and then you have to replace the entire mod; with external battery mod you simply buy more $6 batteries and can continue to use the mod.
Charging IMR batteries in a dedicated charger is faster and safer than using an internal microUSB charger in an internal battery mod. A better choice in the long term.

Exotic coils vs simple coils? Simple all the way. KISS - keep it simple, stupid.

 

[Sickbxy]

Ive been looking at internal battery mods for convenience.

If you want to do any decent builds, you are going to want good trustworthy external batteries.
Wholesale Li-ion Batteries for Vaping, Flashlights | Liion Wholesale

 

[Cages2Clouds]

No need to have a drill if you have your wire premade unless you want to learn to spin it yourself. Much better flavor and clouds, I have a hard time even doing simple claptons now a days.

That much better, damn ill have to look into it! Wasnt expecting to hear about an increase in flavor lol. I much appreciate the link to the pre made wire, anything change with cotton techniques?

 

[Cages2Clouds]

I've tried a couple of different squonk mods, including a gently used Reo; they just didn't fit my past or current way I like to vape. I do like them in theory and may try one out again in the future.





I think the tendency today is to get away from quad coils. They have a LOT of mass which increases ramp up time and draw more amps from the battery and hence drain the batteries faster. With longer dual coils you still can get a lot of surface area without too much mass. That's how I feel, anyway.


You're going to find people that prefer either a mech or a regulated mod for various reasons. I prefer a regulated mod because I can adjust my vaping preference (change the wattage setting) on the fly, and I like the bonus of protection circuitry for safety. It's nice having a voltage and ohm meter on the mod, too.

Metal tube mechs can be a pipe bomb waiting to happen to the uninformed or careless user. They have their limitations in power output as a single battery device as well. No protection circuity is a huge negative for me.

A Beginner's Guide to Your First Mechanical Mod

If you look around harder you should be able to find some nice looking wood or metal box mods.

I rarely use my Kayfun RTA or my two RDA's, a Velocity clone and authentic Patriot. Of those, my favorite is the Velocity. Two large posts with four large leg holes, decent juice well, wide variance of air control, and plenty of deck space for a dual coil build. Easy to build on.

View attachment 732849 Velocity RDA

I've become a lazy vaper and don't like having to change my wick every 3 - 4 days in a dripper. My current atomizer is an original Uwell Crown clearomizer tank. I simply fill the tank once a day and change the drop in coil once a month. As far as I am concerned I get the same flavor and vapor production as the rebuildables but far more convenient to ME. My review of the Crown 1 is the second post here: Tanks & RDA's Ratings & Explanations

The bottom two pics you listed of wood and metal squonk mods, what are there names?

 

[Sickbxy]

That much better, damn ill have to look into it! Wasnt expecting to hear about an increase in flavor lol. I much appreciate the link to the pre made wire, anything change with cotton techniques?

Look up Rayon cotton
Amazon.com : Graham Professional Cellucotton Beauty Coil (Rayon fiber) : Beauty

 

[Cages2Clouds]

If you want to do any decent builds, you are going to want good trustworthy external batteries.
Wholesale Li-ion Batteries for Vaping, Flashlights | Liion Wholesale

Thanks, ive still got several good 18650's and a smart charger just need to test them to see if they arent dead dead. So keep an RDA the hell away from an internal battery mod huh? Lol