Help with Nicotine

[Bundy1971]

I purchased my first batch of nicotine: 2 x 100ml/100mg, 100% PG bottles. I bought them from a vendor that seemed to have a pretty good reputation on this and other forums (not sure if I can/should mention their name).

Anyway, when I first uncapped it, I immediately noticed a pretty strong odor. Not really sure how to describe it...maybe a rancid cigarette tobacco smell? It's not overpowering, but very noticeable and when mixed (@ 6mg/ml), it is definitely the prominent flavor and very harsh. It basically ruins the juice, which is a fruit mix that ends up tasting like a tobacco juice, which I don't like.

Did I get a bad batch? Is there anything I can do to get rid of the taste/odor?

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

I purchased my first batch of nicotine: 2 x 100ml/100mg, 100% PG bottles. I bought them from a vendor that seemed to have a pretty good reputation on this and other forums (not sure if I can/should mention their name).

Anyway, when I first uncapped it, I immediately noticed a pretty strong odor. Not really sure how to describe it...maybe a rancid cigarette tobacco smell? It's not overpowering, but very noticeable and when mixed (@ 6mg/ml), it is definitely the prominent flavor and very harsh. It basically ruins the juice, which is a fruit mix that ends up tasting like a tobacco juice, which I don't like.

Did I get a bad batch? Is there anything I can do to get rid of the taste/odor?

Sounds like you got some nic that has started to degrade. Contact the vendor and ask for replacement or refund.
Some vendors are known to have what is called a 'peppery' taste that some of our members prefer. Most tho, want it clear and tasteless.
I think it is ok to name your vendor.. We do all the time and don't see any rules against it.

 

[Beamslider]

Don't know where you got it but nic does vary by vendor. Nicotine can be peppery and harsh even at 6ml. If you are subohming 6ml might be harsh

 

[Beamslider]

You might want to try nicotine river or nude nicotine. Both have salts listed as smooth if you want to try them that aren't harsh

Nicotine River - Liquid Nicotine - Vegetable Glycerin

Nude Nicotine - Chemically Validated and Artfully Concocted Electronic Cigarette Liquid

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Sounds like you got some nic that has started to degrade. Contact the vendor and ask for replacement or refund.
Some vendors are known to have what is called a 'peppery' taste that some of our members prefer. Most tho, want it clear and tasteless.
I think it is ok to name your vendor.. We do all the time and don't see any rules against it.

Also, @ 6mg, the sheer volume of pg/vg that you have to add to get it to 6mg should have gotten rid of any taste of tobacco. Most ejuice mixes take some time to age before flavoring comes through. Have you been mixing long?

 

[Bundy1971]

Thanks all.

@Sugar_and_Spice - This is actually my first ever mix. I agree and hoped that the tiny volume of nic to the other ingredients would mask the flavor, but it jumps out. I don't see it going away with steeping, though the other flavors coming through may send it to the back. I don't know that the harshness will subdue though.

btw...the vendor is HiLiq, which got some really good reviews.

I guess my question is, since this is my first batch of nic, when they say "odorless" and "tasteless" is it really that or is there always a taste/odor with nic? I mean, should it smell like straight PG/VG?

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Thanks all.

@Sugar_and_Spice - This is actually my first ever mix. I agree and hoped that the tiny volume of nic to the other ingredients would mask the flavor, but it jumps out. I don't see it going away with steeping, though the other flavors coming through may send it to the back. I don't know that the harshness will subdue though.

btw...the vendor is HiLiq, which got some really good reviews.

I guess my question is, since this is my first batch of nic, when they say "odorless" and "tasteless" is it really that or is there always a taste/odor with nic? I mean, should it smell like straight PG/VG?

It should be clear-see through and tasteless. I have heard that HiLiq is good but I have never used them myself. I really would send them an email and ask for a replacement. As nic ages and is exposed to light and heat it will start to degrade. However, in litre bottles, especially dark amber colored ones that process is slowed down. Once it arrives in your home place it in a freezer and keep out only what you intend to mix with.

This is simply old nic, imo. It must be the last of whatever container they were pulling from......email.

 

[Bundy1971]

Thanks. Already sent them an email.

They were amber bottles, one went straight to the freezer and the other one I left out to mix a few batches with.

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

I forgot to add that it should be tasteless also. If you can't smell it, you can't taste it. lol.
But, please, do not try to taste the 100mg. Man, that would burn. And probably make you sick to your stomach.

 

[440BB]

I've gotten a smaller bottle of 100mg nic in PG from Hiliq in the past and it was colorless and odorless. This sounds like old nic or a bad batch to me. I hope you can keep us updated with how they handle this.

 

[stols001]

This does sound like older nicotine. It should be clear if it's freebase.

Just to clarify in case you do decide to try nic salts (although I would probably ask the vendor for some replacement nic first) it should arrive very pale yellow. I can "smell" my nic but it doesn't really smell like tobacco at all, there is the faintest hint of what I might term "sour-salty" but when I mix, it is almost tasteless to me. I use lots of fruit and dessert flavors, if my nic were harsh or older, I'm fairly certain I would taste it (I use 18 mg/ml for mixing).

Can you post a pic of the nicotine? That might give you a more definitive answer although IMO 6 mg/ml of freebase shouldn't taste harsh, though I imagine there are some differences with every vendor.

Good luck getting it resolved.

Anna