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  1. toketreez

    toketreez Full Member

    Feb 19, 2015
    Okay so I have a SS v2 Mod clone and little boy clone atty. Now my batters is just a 18650, 3.7 V 2500mah and 22g canter wite. And its just seems like my ecig isn't vaping at its fully potential and I thought it's because of its ohms im even to sure because i had a previous battery and I felt the battery got shot or something so i bought a new and even with the new it doesn't seem to fire up all that quick and I do not have a ohm reader. Is it my ohms or is it another problem?
     
  2. CoilinTrouble

    CoilinTrouble Super Member

    Jan 17, 2015
    Lebanon, Indiana
    If its high ohms itll definity take longer to heat... DEFINITELY get yourself an ohm reader before you get any deeper into mech vaping. Also do you know the amp limits of your batteries?
     
  3. Susan~S

    Susan~S ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 12, 2014
    Mpls/St.Paul, MN
    You have a couple of problems (maybe even more)

    1. You MUST purchase an ohm reader.
    2. 22 gauge wire take a LONG time to heat up.
    3. What brand of battery did you buy? It it an IMR battery?
    4. Have you read up on battery safety, Ohm's Law, amp draw and understand how it all works when it comes to vaping?
     
  4. toketreez

    toketreez Full Member

    Feb 19, 2015
    ok, I thought so and no I don't how do I figure out what my batteries amp limit is? and also how do you get a low resistance for your ohms ?? because I know mech mods are unregulated unlike box mods.
     
  5. Bunnykiller

    Bunnykiller ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 17, 2013
    New Orleans La.
    depends on the box mod.... some box mods are mechanical ( unregulated)

    and 22 ga is rather thick, requires a hi output battery ( VTC4-5 etc) and get an ohm meter, the 20$ for the meter will save you alot of money on trashed batteries..
    spend some time becoming aquainted with Ohms Law... it will give you insight to your question too..

    you may want to consider going to 26 or 28 ga...
     
  6. toketreez

    toketreez Full Member

    Feb 19, 2015
    Lmfao I've been vaping for a little while but I guess I did a rookie mistake on battery safety I probably should be having no hand right now because my battery could've exploded and have two batteries(ones a new one and it literally just has a sticker on it that says 18650, 3.7 V . and 2500mah and my other is IMR18650 3.7V 2000 mah and has a V1 dont know if thats relevent) and I heard from RIPtrippers off of youtube said a VTC 3 or VTC 4 would be way better battery for that kind of wire. and also whats the best way to get a low resistence.
     
  7. toketreez

    toketreez Full Member

    Feb 19, 2015
    Damn bunny kille I think thats why my first battery isnt as good as it use to be I think i mightve trashed it with the thick ... wire i got damnn.
     
  8. DaveOno

    DaveOno ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Here's a pic to help you with ohms.

    Note: it is NOT a replacement for an Ohms reader.

    Personally, I use a digital multimeter. It can do so much more, check battery voltages, I use it for home AC wiring, fixing guitar cords and amps, and car repairs. Nice ones at Sears Craftsman for under $30.

    Good luck, friend...

    [​IMG]
     
  9. Bunnykiller

    Bunnykiller ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 17, 2013
    New Orleans La.
    thicker wire and less wraps create lower ohms and a quicker death for the battery....creates alot of heat with a hi amp source... burns the juice faster ( makes it taste nasty)
    thinner wire and more wraps creates more ohms... easier on the battery... creates better flavor...
     
  10. toketreez

    toketreez Full Member

    Feb 19, 2015
    Damn so I was right it was the battery damnit and the new battery I got is just going to end up like my first if I dont get some new wire soon. Thanks guy appreciate it you guys helped me with my question for sure. Its because my wires are thick that might battery cant do its job so I need either new wire or a new battery .......NIT thanks though guyys but yeaahhhh another question whats the best way to get low ohms ? you think if i read the ohms law I would get my answer?
     
  11. Susan~S

    Susan~S ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 12, 2014
    Mpls/St.Paul, MN
    Okay. You MUST know the Amp rating of your battery and you MUST measure your build before you put it on you mechanical mod and fire it. If you don't do this you will not know if you are safe. Your battery could vent.

    Maybe you can post pictures of your batteries and we can help you figure out their Amp rating

    =========

    I highly recommend you spend some time with Baditude (one of our resident battery experts) and visit his blogs. You are now 100% in control of your own safety (and others around you). Make sure you purchase an ohm reader and a voltmeter or DMM so you can measure your builds, check for shorts and measure the remaining charge on your batteries.

    Baditudes Blogs. The blogs regarding mods and rebuildables are listed below:

    BATTERIES

    9. Battery Basics for Mods: IMR or Protected ICR?
    * Another essential read to understand which batteries are safe to use in mechanical and regulated mods. Includes a frequently updated list of recommended safe-chemistry, high-drain batteries with their specifications.

    17. Purple Efest Batteries not as Advertised
    * A cautionary blog that reveals that the purple Efest batteries may not have the specifications advertised. Also includes a commentary on "continuous discharge ratings" vs "pulse discharge ratings" of battery specs.

    OHM'S LAW

    14. Ohm's Law for Dummies (Vapers)
    * My attempt at explaining Ohm's Law in layman terms and how it relates to vaping.

    16. Explain it to the Dumb Noob: Ohm's Law Calculations
    * As simple as it is to use, some people have a tough time grasping the concept. Warning: Includes graphic photos of mod explosions.

    MECHANICAL MODS & REBUILDABLES

    7. Information Resources for Your First RBA
    * An essential read and reference guide for someone new to rebuilding coils. Includes a multitude of useful links on battery safety, mod safety, coil meters, coil building, and the differences in the three types of RBA's.

    15. Inexpensive Mechanical Mod/RDA Setup
    * A response to the frequently asked question on how to get into rebuildable atomizers with a mechanical mod inexpensively. Includes a list of commonly used tools and supplies for rebuilding and where to find them.

    BATTERIES - WHERE TO BUY

    Only buy batteries from a reputable supplier (not ebay or Amazon) as there are many counterfeit batteries being sold. Here are several reputable battery suppliers in the US.

    * RTD Vapor
    * Illumination Supply**
    * Lighthound
    * Orbtronics
    * Battery Junction**

    ** Ships to Canada
     
  12. Bunnykiller

    Bunnykiller ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 17, 2013
    New Orleans La.
    good visual reference... I like it :)
     
  13. mudram99

    mudram99 Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    toke, please don't take this wrong. BUT if you are not fishing please STOP right now what your doing before you hurt yourself or someone else. You can learn everything you need to safely and pleasurably vape here on this site, starting with the basics of battery safety! I am offering this info in hopes it will help, even though I think I smell aroma de fish. :)
     
  14. DaveOno

    DaveOno ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

  15. deach

    deach Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 24, 2011
    IL
    You've been given good advice here, please follow it. Honestly if you have to continue to ask "how do I get low ohms" you have no business even trying to wrap coils yourself after the information presented here. I'm not being rude, however perhaps learning, listening, reading, and paying attention may save your hand, face, mouth, and or the people around you. PLEASE. Learn before you go on asking "how do I get low ohms?". good luck
     
  16. toketreez

    toketreez Full Member

    Feb 19, 2015
    ... is a fishing ... o-o i have no idea what your talking about so im not going to get offended
     
  17. toketreez

    toketreez Full Member

    Feb 19, 2015
    .... No thats not what happen I dont get notifications for when someone replies so I reply ... not seeing if someone comments or not... so thankssssssss...
     
  18. DaveOno

    DaveOno ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    You have to refresh the page, hit F5.

    The little boy is not a beginner's atty, imho.

    Are you just looking to chuck clouds? Or do you want a great vaping experience?

    For the latter, you need to find your "sweet spot", that is, the right power to the right coil. I really would go with 28g Kanthal to start.

    When you go lower ohms, the power goes up dramatically. You can easily overcome your battery if you don't know the resistance of your coil. And the only sure way we all check every coil is with an ohms reader or a DMM.

    So, you have a lot here to read through the links.

    Good luck on your journey, your learning, your SAFETY and your vaping.

    :)
     
  19. toketreez

    toketreez Full Member

    Feb 19, 2015
    AHaaaaa I get it nowww I just got done reading so basically with ohms law you want to know the amp of you battery so you can figure out what resistence thats perfect for your ecig. and resistence matters on how thick your wire is and how many wrapss. And I figured out my battery is a 10amp so i would need a 0.4 resistence which from looking at you pic that you showed my my 22g with 7 wraps is a perfect resistence for my batterys its just that my battery isnt strong enough to heat my coils as fast a better battery could. so for my battery I need a thinner wire with with less wraps to get the same vape as my thicker wire but it just be a littler easier on my battery. ahahahahahah am I right ??? oh and yeah i really just love to chuck clouds Id love the perfec vaping experience its just i know a little boy is could for those cloudssss which i thinnk i make clouds but i guess im not as i think i am
     
  20. DaveOno

    DaveOno ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    From one of Baditude's blogs...
    http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/baditude/6293-14-ohms-law-dummies-vapers.html

    And I can't stress that enough.

    And if you had a freshly charged battery, at 0.4 ohms and 4.2 volts, you are OVER your batteries safe discharge!!!

    And resistance is dependent on the total length of the wire, the legs and size of the coil, as well as the gauge of the wire. So, what diameter you wrap your coil arround is important.

    And when you are delving into the very low sub-ohms, a little change means a whole lot of current change.

    I'm not a cloud chaser, I enjoy good flavor first.

    You are right, thinner wire (higher gauge) and the right amount of less wraps will give a similar resistance to your 22g at 7 wraps. But big vapor isn't about pushing the low ohms. Getting the proper wick and juice plays a big part of it, as does drawing technique. For example, I can get a nice cloud at 1.5 ohms at 10 watts with a good dripper.

    Again, don't get close to 10 amps with your battery. You have to leave room for errors. You must. Cause if you don't, you risk big consequences.

    Hope this helps.
     
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