Hercules Rebuildable Atomizer (Ithaka Clone)

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Unless you can find some reason to have the basic feeder open I would suggest you keep them closed unless of coarse you like juice leaking while filling.
I finally think I have figured out what purpose they might serve and that would be to be able to wick up the very last drop because of how high the lowest part of the wick is to the bottom of the tank. I keep mine closed but on a couple occasions I vaped it dry so I see no reason for them except to cause leakage during filling.

Wait you are talking about the basic feed or the nut in this post ? I leave my basic feed on since I got it - I doubled up the Orings on the 510 post so now it doesn't warp when screwed in to the base
 

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Wait you are talking about the basic feed or the nut in this post ? I leave my basic feed on since I got it - I doubled up the Orings on the 510 post so now it doesn't warp when screwed in to the base
I keep my basic feeder closed otherwise it leaks every time I fill it vs doesn't ever leak anytime when closed.
And have you checked in on this thread that I started on the Chi You clone?
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...sttech-more-battery-warning.html#post10903082
 

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I wonder what's different in our setup that I can fill with my basic feed holes open and you can't

Some other variable is there we just need to find it

Juice thickness would be my first guess, it's amazing how much a small change in PG/VG ratio will affect things
 

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I wonder what's different in our setup that I can fill with my basic feed holes open and you can't

Some other variable is there we just need to find it

Juice thickness would be my first guess, it's amazing how much a small change in PG/VG ratio will affect things
My juice is no less than 90% PG for this application.
Before Ithaka even came out as soon as I saw that basic feeder I post about "how is that not going to leak when filling".
Also the wicks in my channels is really thinned out, probably around 2 mm

I see absolutely no purpose for it.
 

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I have leaking when filling with juice channels open as well.

I need to get something straight, please. If I cut the wicks so that there is no wick in the channels, there will be less chance of dry hits?? Doesn't really add up in my head, but see it mentioned several times. I haven't, however, been able to find the original McKrinkle post...thanks.
 

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I have leaking when filling with juice channels open as well.

I need to get something straight, please. If I cut the wicks so that there is no wick in the channels, there will be less chance of dry hits?? Doesn't really add up in my head, but see it mentioned several times. I haven't, however, been able to find the original McKrinkle post...thanks.


I tried it in my Oddy, and it still seems to feed pretty well without flooding. If anything I like the fact that you don't waste as much wick. In my head it basically makes it feed like a Kayfun.
 

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I tried it in my Oddy, and it still seems to feed pretty well without flooding. If anything I like the fact that you don't waste as much wick. In my head it basically makes it feed like a Kayfun.

Gotcha, thanks! When doing multiple hits in a row, I am getting some dry hits with silica (which could always have something to do with my coils, but I don't think so). Late last night, I put some new coils in it with Peaches & Cream cotton yarn in it. It seems to be doing well, and the cotton taste seems to be subsiding. From the start, however, the only time I got the cotton taste was after several big toots in a row. We'll see how it goes..........

IF the cotton yarn ends up working well, that would be great. I can wrap a coil around a drill bit and simply feed it through easier than I could with silica. Not to mention a huge supply of it is less than two bucks! :toast:

When I got my 50-pack of ready wires, I thought to myself, "these will last me a really long time!" Boy was I wrong! I bet I have went through half of them in a week or so trying to figure things out! LOL

You guys have been a big help to me.....:toast:
 
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Have you tried it closed and determined that it didn't work as well?

Yes of course otherwise id have nothing to compare it to - and who am i to jump to conclusions :)

Ask my wife and she'll tell you the complete opposite
Anyway with feeder closed and slots closed at the ceramic - my 50:50 did not have issues wicking - but I had to open the mouth piece about 5 turns - where you saw a good amount of ceramic on the sides .
Now that it's closed I'm going to try different juice types and then also try the same juices with it open
 

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Yes of course otherwise id have nothing to compare it to - and who am i to jump to conclusions :)

Ask my wife and she'll tell you the complete opposite
Anyway with feeder closed and slots closed at the ceramic - my 50:50 did not have issues wicking - but I had to open the mouth piece about 5 turns - where you saw a good amount of ceramic on the sides .
Now that it's closed I'm going to try different juice types and then also try the same juices with it open
Having them open is akin to having the mouthpiece open some during filling, with the thicker juice if it works OK I guess but just opening the mouthpiece farther makes more sense to me, just saying.
 

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Having them open is akin to having the mouthpiece open some during filling, with the thicker juice if it works OK I guess but just opening the mouthpiece farther makes more sense to me, just saying.


Yeah, to me the only purpose of basic feeding is for THICK juices that need that extra help to keep from getting a dry hit. With the 80/20 and 70/30's I typically run I always keep it closed.
 

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Think about it, the opening is farther from the coil, the wicks can only get so saturated so how can that let more in? Unless your using it with the mouthpiece closed or only slightly open.

This is true, it really serves no purpose other to be another bullet point on a features list. ;-)
 

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The way I see it - if you're vaping sub ohm or heavy VG it's another point of entry for the
Wicks to get saturated to ensure there are no dry hits .

I understand that some see it as a useless feature since you can just open the mouth piece - but what I'm saying is it can't hurt to have another 2 slots to feed the wicks with
Juice on a continuous level .

Or of course if you don't want to use the MP and wanted to let it feed on its own .

The same set up on the terminator gave me dry hits - where as on the hercules it's wet and perfect - with auto feed on .
When I say same setup - I mean exact same - single coil - mouth piece unscrewed same amount - same wicks and same coil - and it's dry on the term


Example - trying to put it into words is difficult

But as you heat the coil you can literally see juice moving on the wick to feed to coil - now when that wick is saturated you get a nice long drag or hit . But sooner or later your coil is going to heat the liquid faster than the silica (or whatever you use) can wick. So now there are 2 more slots to saturate the wick to ensure it doesn't dry out when trying to feed juice to coils .
 
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