Hey Provarians, I could manage to cut down to two models of devices now.

[JJOOHHNN]

Even though I could manage to cut down to two models of devices I actually only want to cut down to three.

I have dumped most of my items but still these are the batteries only at my desk (I am afraid to show what is scattered around the house). I will put a link to discharge data at the end of this post.



While not perfect I have found a small system I can live with. I have dug around, asked questions, and so on. When I have asked around I was told what I was looking for didn't exist but it was in front of me all along.

The Provari are not getting cut, what is going to get cut is all that cigalike clutter and what is shown is just the tip of the iceberg. Even the 3.7v regulated ones were not quite what I wanted. The unregulated were not up to snuff either.

What I have been wanting is a high drain small battery that could handle a modest load. The problem is this size class where a lot of new users are which means cheap low quality stuff.

I was trying things like 3.7 regulated batteries just this last week at 1.8 ohms then got warned I was on dangerous ground and moved up the 2.0 ohms. What I have learned is that there is at least one high drain 66mm 9.2mm dia battery. I wonder why almost no one recommended them? They have set the internal safety of these batteries at either 3amps or 3.5amps, I will need to go back and look. The eGo C twist 1000 mAh have a 2.5 amp limit. The C rating on these little things has to be fairly high compared to other things in order to achieve this. They hold above 4v for 63 minutes at 2.3 ohms, they stay above 3.7v for 45 minutes at 1.5 ohms which would be dangerous for a lot of small batteries. They have been very nice with an Ikenvape 2.0 ohm cartomizer. I think the new Iken 1.8ohm carto coming out soon that will fit these without an adapter will have really good results. This is from a 200mAh battery.

I have been using them back and forth with other devices since noon and there is a difference. I am not going to say they hit like a train (I have heard that said about things that don't have this much punch). I will say I have tried a lot of different things and these have more punch than anything I have yet tried in this size class.

I think the reason people didn't mention these when searching is they cost a lot more. I think the assumption is that they are all the same so get the cheap ones. It seems to me this is really a case of you pay for what you get.

These little guys are competing well with my medium sized stuff, actually beating most of it in all except for run time which is to be expected.

I do not know if these are the best little batteries around or not but they easily beat the ones most recommended.

My big battery devices are in order Provari all the way. My little devices might be in order. The middle size might be a problem for awhile.

Have any of you seen a discharge pattern better than this for little batteries (link at bottom)? I am asking Provari people because they seem to be a little more discerning than most. In the main forum I think I would get people posting fasttech links to stuff that is not what I am looking for.

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At 24.95 a pop these are more expensive then other 66mm 200mAh batteries I have seen. What am I going to do with all of these stick batteries I don't want anymore?

 

[glassgal]

I love the little stick batteries, they fit in the pocket of any purse, so make great backups. If you put an Aspire ET-S on it (they are stainless and glass), they both look great and work great. Here's the 2 matching ones I have, just got the black ET-S today:

If you are getting rid of your excess sticks, try buying a few good heads and giving em to smoker buddies to help them quit.

 

[glassgal]

The BDC heads on the little Aspires above fit on the Vivi Nova and Davide below too, so I can just buy the same heads for all my glass tanks and batteries:

 

[JJOOHHNN]

I love the little stick batteries, they fit in the pocket of any purse, so make great backups. If you put an Aspire ET-S on it (they are stainless and glass), they both look great and work great. Here's the 2 matching ones I have, just got the black ET-S today:

If you are getting rid of your excess sticks, try buying a few good heads and giving em to smoker buddies to help them quit.

Those are not little stick batteries, those are medium sized batteries. 14mm vs 9.2 with less amp carrying ability. I am going to try and dump all my lower grade 9.2mm stick batteries soon. Then I want to find something to replace my 14mm stuff.

 

[The Ocelot]

Carto tank on a stick battery. It can be done.

 

[JJOOHHNN]

Carto tank on a stick battery. It can be done.

That kind of defeats the purpose of super small and light.

You should be happy I found a tiny thing that can handle 3amps.

It took me 6 months to find this.

 

[The Ocelot]

That kind of defeats the purpose of super small and light.

That's a polypro tank. It's very light.

 

[JJOOHHNN]

That's a polypro tank. It's very light.

It gains weight when you fill it up. It is also bulky

 

[glassgal]

The little metal one is a DV-Ego-C 900. It's 1/2" in diameter and as long as my index finger (around 3" long). Other than 808, batteries don't get much smaller... it's the same size as the larger disposables you can buy at convenience stores.

The longer black one is the Ego-Twist 1000. That's almost medium sized.

Both handle the Aspire BDC heads, the same heads that power a Davide or Vivi Nova that require a bit battery to get the most out of. You were asking for a small battery solution that will hit like a larger battery, and this is it.

 

[glassgal]

You can also go with Bloog 808... which are actually pretty decent for such a teeny thing... but it won't last very long.

 

[JJOOHHNN]

The little metal one is a DV-Ego-C 900. It's 1/2" in diameter and as long as my index finger (around 3" long). Other than 808, batteries don't get much smaller... it's the same size as the larger disposables you can buy at convenience stores.

The longer black one is the Ego-Twist 1000. That's almost medium sized.

Both handle the Aspire BDC heads, the same heads that power a Davide or Vivi Nova that require a bit battery to get the most out of. You were asking for a small battery solution that will hit like a larger battery, and this is it.

The third picture in my first post is a bunch of 14mm stuff. I found a high drain 9.2mm device that can out punch almost all of that 14mm stuff. Most of the 14mm stuff there is limited to 2.5 amps so this 9.2 is beating the tar out of it in C value.

 

[JJOOHHNN]

You can also go with Bloog 808... which are actually pretty decent for such a teeny thing... but it won't last very long.

The Bloog cannot carry the amps and is a 3.7v nominal device. I am going to be trying to ditch stuff that is better than the Bloog. What I have now is a 3.96 nominal device that can sustain above 4v for an hour in that size.

I am trying to see if there are other high drain devices in this size category. I can only find one.

 

[glassgal]

Here it is on a ruler. 6" x 1/2", roughly 1/4" longer than a normal sized ball point pen and barely thicker around, and holds 3 ml of juice and lasts all day long vaping the same head as you would use in a Davide on a Provari:

I SERIOUSLY doubt there's a better small solution possible.

 

[JJOOHHNN]

Here it is on a ruler. 6" x 1/2", roughly 1/4" longer than a normal sized ball point pen and barely thicker around, and holds 3 ml of juice and lasts all day long vaping the same head as you would use in a Davide on a Provari:

I SERIOUSLY doubt there's a better small solution possible.

I have 14 devices like that in the the third photograph in my first post. I am going to be dumping that stuff especially if I can find a high drain device in that size category.

 

[glassgal]

Also, the above is a glass tank, encased in protective stainless steel. There's no possibility of chemical breakdown of the tank from juices... and the flavor hit is better than any carto tank, big or small. (the key being sure you primed the heads well with juice before first use).

 

[glassgal]

I have 14 devices like that in the the third photograph in my first post.

I saw that. That's why I suggested you buy the good heads for them.

 

[JJOOHHNN]

I saw that. That's why I suggested you buy the good heads for them.

I want to get better things to replace them with. I have even more cleros than that in trying to find one that I like. I never found one I liked as well as a carto tank.

 

[The Ocelot]

Here it is on a ruler. 6" x 1/2", roughly 1/4" longer than a normal sized ball point pen and barely thicker around, and holds 3 ml of juice and lasts all day long vaping the same head as you would use in a Davide on a Provari:

I SERIOUSLY doubt there's a better small solution possible.

Lady Glass, meet JJOOHHNN. JJOOHHNN has been on a quest for over 6 months to find the perfect battery to fit a very demanding criteria. At this point, I wouldn't bother suggesting batteries to him, since I'm sure he has tired them - seriously. I have learned so much reading recommendations people have given him over the months - it's how I discovered Tecabs and Colibri. I used to try and help, but have come to the conclusion that if he actually found what he says he wants, his life would be devoid of purpose. He would be lost and unfocused until he came up with something else he couldn't find.

ETA:

Check out the Colibri Nano from one of JJOOHHNN's other threads:

 

[JJOOHHNN]

Lady Glass, meet JJOOHHNN. JJOOHHNN has been on quest for over 6 months to find the perfect battery to fit a very demanding criteria. At this point, I wouldn't bother suggesting batteries to him, since I'm sure he has tired them - seriously. I have learned so much reading recommendations people have given him over the months - it's how I discovered Tecabs and Calibre. I used to try and help, but have come to the conclusion that if he actually found what he says he wants, his life would be devoid of purpose. He would be lost and unfocused until he came up with something else he couldn't find.

Actually my search might be over for the really small device for now unless someone sees another high drain device in this size category. This combined with Ikens upcoming 1.8ohm KR808 I think will satisfy me for the small stuff. I really did want to stick with 510 but I could not find anything high drain so I gave up on that part of the search.

I could get by nicely with Provari and these little guys. I still want something in a medium sized device but I can be happy with with Provari plus high drain cigalikes.

 

[glassgal]

I want to get better things to replace them with. I have even more cleros than that in trying to find one that I like. I never found one I liked as well as a carto tank.

I have a lot of clearos too... my favorite being the iclear16. BUT... the Aspire ET-S blows it out of the water, WITH glass tank, WITH stainless protector of glass tank making it much more portable... tho bigger. The bigger means it holds more juice too.

BUT... if we are looking for a unit that will fit inside a credit card (er... WHY? You can sneak any e-cig on a plane, so not sure who else you'd need to hide it from)... can't help, because I wouldn't want it... what for??

I think maybe because I'm fine with BIG. The only point of small is to have more backups.