Hi all

[Roman81]

Hello just returned to vaping after i switched back to cigarettes from vaping the ego pens back in 2012-2014 because the ego pens were crap but recently a friend showed me a new double battery mod he got and i liked it so decided to try and get back in to vaping.
Unfortunately didn't do research before ordering my 1st kit so bought the Istick Pico with melo 3 tank. Not that bad but but now that i did do the research i understand it was a mistake but oh well live and learn.
Ordered a Revenger kit next at Vaporesso store on Aliexpress for much less than it sells for usually but after a week they contacted me saying this
"I'm sorry to tell you that the revenger kit can't stock up on time now.
Do you mind that repalce with another product?
Such as the Armour pro kit or the Switcher kit
Sorry for the inconvenience caused.
We apologize for you.
Wait for your early reply.
best regards"
(i think they stopped making it)
What got me very angry is after they told me they don't have it i ran a search for it thinking i'll ask for refund and buy it from some1 else and what do i see as the second result, them selling the mod just the mod not kit but it means they still have it.
The Switcher is basically the same mod and i would have been ok to take that but 2 days ago i already bought the Switcher kit from them (also for way less than it usually sells for and it shows that they already shipped that) and the Armour pro kit is not coming close to the Revenger kit.
Also ordered a Falcone tank so i think i'm pretty set for now.
Anyway sorry for the rant just me venting a little and passing the info.
Any thoughts?

PS. watched all of Moochs (great human being) vids so i'm up to date on battery safety.

 

[Izan]

Hi and welcome,
I love my Pico.
What seems to be the problem with yours?
Where are you located?


Best of luck.
I

 

[charlie1465]

Welcome to the friendly bunch No problem...writing down how you feel is one of the best ways to get it out of your system....better luck next time

 

[Vape Muppet]

Hello and welcome to ECF.

 

[stols001]

Well, he should be getting out of his system in double the time he wrote it out twice.

Given the choice between Alibaba and like ebay…. It would be a very tough choice is all I'm saying.

Also ordering without research does lead to this type of stuff. You are better off paying slightly more to a reliable US vendor, I mean it's memorial day there are sales etc. I'm sure you could do WAY better at fairly near the price... With a little research. Etc.

Anna

 

[Roman81]

Thank you all
I live in Israel so my vendor choices are very limited, only 1 diesent local supplier for Ecig related stuff
Nothing wrong with the Pico i like it a lot it's a great single 18650 mod very small, sits well in the hand, firmware upgradable (got it with ver-1.0 meh, upgraded to ver-1.03) got a new smart mode in the 1.03 which i like and use, the 1 major prob is the 22mm tank restriction and another not so bad con, no CCV.
The melo3 is a nice tank but the taste is not the best and the coils are not that great compared to other tanks and coils like Falcon, Crown, even the NRG which can take many good coils. Ordered 5 ss316 coils, want to try some TC.
As i wrote in my other post i mostly had positive exp with Chinese sellers.

 

[Izan]

Thank you all
I live in Israel so my vendor choices are very limited, only 1 diesent local supplier for Ecig related stuff
Nothing wrong with the Pico i like it a lot it's a great single 18650 mod very small, sits well in the hand, firmware upgradable (got it with ver-1.0 meh, upgraded to ver-1.03) got a new smart mode in the 1.03 which i like and use, the 1 major prob is the 22mm tank restriction and another not so bad con, no CCV.
The melo3 is a nice tank but the taste is not the best and the coils are not that great compared to other tanks and coils like Falcon, Crown, even the NRG which can take many good coils. Ordered 5 ss316 coils, want to try some TC.
As i wrote in my other post i mostly had positive exp with Chinese sellers.

For as much of a fan of the pico as I am, I am equally NOT a fan of the EC coil based tanks. IMO, If they didn't include them in kits, no one would ever buy one.
I loaded ARTICFOX on my Pico and have been very happy with the TC and wattage performance.
CCV/CCW, granular control is not a feature that appealed to me or the way I vape.

As for vendors, If you are not prepared to take a refund and walk away, you put yourself at a disadvantage.

Toppers over 22mm? No problem

Cheers
I

 

[Diver9543]

Hello and welcome to ECF.

 

[Daniel Forsyth]

Welcome to ECF Roman81

 

[somdcomputerguy]

Welcome to ECF, Roman81.

 

[MJCSD]

Hello and welcome to ecf

 

[Falconeer]

Welcome aboard!

 

[Roman81]

For as much of a fan of the pico as I am, I am equally NOT a fan of the EC coil based tanks. IMO, If they didn't include them in kits, no one would ever buy one.
I loaded ARTICFOX on my Pico and have been very happy with the TC and wattage performance.
CCV/CCW, granular control is not a feature that appealed to me or the way I vape.

As for vendors, If you are not prepared to take a refund and walk away, you put yourself at a disadvantage.

Toppers over 22mm? No problem
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Cheers
I

What are EC coils? i see it a lot but don't know what it means.
By EC coil based i guess you mean tanks like Falcon, NRG, Crown non rebuildable as opposed to drippers\RTA\RDA?
I'm new to all this tank thing only tried regular tanks so far, back when i vaped in 2012 there was no tanks just the stupid ego pens with the coil up above the liquid and the 2 wicks going down into the liquid
Never tried CCV but heard it's a nice feature to have and i can see why, you get full control of what happens when you "pull the trigger" maybe i won't like it either but first i need to try.
Thank you very much for the info about the adapter
As i wrote in the other fricking mega thread from my exp the refund is always guaranteed i just wanted more and as usual i got it, they are sending me the mod and the tank and even the color that i wanted

 

[Izan]

What are EC coils? i see it a lot but don't know what it means.
By EC coil based i guess you mean tanks like Falcon, NRG, Crown non rebuildable as opposed to drippers\RTA\RDA?
I'm new to all this tank thing only tried regular tanks so far, back when i vaped in 2012 there was no tanks just the stupid ego pens with the coil up above the liquid and the 2 wicks going down into the liquid
Never tried CCV but heard it's a nice feature to have and i can see why, you get full control of what happens when you "pull the trigger" maybe i won't like it either but first i need to try.
Thank you very much for the info about the adapter
As i wrote in the other fricking mega thread from my exp the refund is always guaranteed i just wanted more and as usual i got it, they are sending me the mod and the tank and even the color that i wanted

They are for Eleaf products.

Congrats on getting your issue resolved.

cheers
I

 

[BrotherBob]

Any thoughts?

Welcome and glad you joined.
One thought, I found that I pretty much get what I pay for. Purchasing from any China direct is chancy. Could read:
How the eCig industry works

 

[Roman81]

Welcome and glad you joined.
One thought, I found that I pretty much get what I pay for. Purchasing from any China direct is chancy. Could read:
How the eCig industry works

Read it, agree with most.
It looks very old 5-7 years at least and the part about dealing with the Chinese companies directly was pretty accurate back then when Ali was still small and didn't have many sellers and it was bad on Alibaba.
I can see his point of view as a business owner myself but he butifight it a bit in his favor.
He's not buying it for the same price that you're buying it. He's buying it 30-40% maybe even cheaper depending on the order quantity if he buys a full container it will be dirt cheap so he's not really "doubling" the price more like tripeling or even more compared to the price he got them at.
The "double" price he's talking about is double the price it would cost you to buy it basically from the same place he's buying. He also forgot a few expenses.
Don't get me wrong double the Ali price is still not that bad, the 1 dicent local ecig supplier here is doing the same i know him since he opened in 2012 and he told me that's what he's doing and actually i bought many things from him a week ago unfortunately he only had EC2 0.3ohm coils for the melo so i ordered ss316 on Ali.
The other suppliers sell at way higher prices and i'm not gonna buy from them.
But as you know there are risks involved, not monetary risks because the refund is guaranteed but when it does go wrong it means that if you want to get what you ordered or at least some equivalent you need to first try and negotiate with the seller (not Ali) many of them don't know english so the messages i get are usually google translated and sometimes can be very hard to understand but you can always as for clarification if it's really bad and when you reply try to stick to a very simple english because they're gonna translate it to chinese and have the same problem. Usually i can come to an agreement with the seller but if not Ali is always there to help, all you need to do is open a dispute and Ali will step in as sort of a judge, Ali always went my way because i always offer reasonable solutions.
Talking to every1 here
I never abused it but i hear if you do they stop helping you so pls don't use this info to try and cheat the system if you do eventually it will bite us all in the ....

 

[Roman81]

They are for Eleaf products.
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Congrats on getting your issue resolved.

cheers
I

I know that it's for Eleaf but what does the EC stand for? what does it mean? it's not material as it appears on all coils.
Don't tell me it's electronic cigarette
Thx

 

[Nancy D]

I know that it's for Eleaf but what does the EC stand for? what does it mean? it's not material as it appears on all coils.
Don't tell me it's electronic cigarette
Thx

They have ceramic coils, I think. Not sure, which doesn't help you!
Where are you in Israel?

 

[BrotherBob]

li always went my way because i always offer reasonable solutions

Your lucky. The only solution AE provided a years ago was to connect me to the manufacturer and have me work it out with him. I ended up eating my purchase.

 

[Roman81]

They have ceramic coils, I think. Not sure, which doesn't help you!
Where are you in Israel?

I see i'm not the first 1 asking what the EC stands for. Guess it's an Eleaf thing.
Yes they do have ceramic coils EC-Ceramic Head - Eleaf electronic cigarette it does help me good to know, thx