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Thanks for all the help. You all have given me a lot of info in a very short period of time! I do have one last question. The only flavors I have tried are tobacco, coffee and grape. I am interested in some of the other flavors and was wondering if any of the online stores have small, sample type bottles, in a sample package so that I can try some other flavors without having to buy a lot of bottles of stuff I might not like?

~Susiejo
 
Ok I looked into it here on the forum. It looks like the average lifespan of a clearomizer, which is most likely what you have, is about a month. So I would suggest that at around a month of use, to consider buying a new one. Try it out and see if you can tell a difference. Here is a link to msts who makes the sweet stuff. the smallest bottle is 6ml. She doesn't have a sampler pack but at 5 bucks each it is easy to try a few and see what you like. She is fairly pricey and she does not allow you to select your level of pg/vg but she does use more vg in her juices so its at least 50/50 but propably more like 60vg 40pg. Ms T's Bakery Essentials
 

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Thanks for all the help. You all have given me a lot of info in a very short period of time! I do have one last question. The only flavors I have tried are tobacco, coffee and grape. I am interested in some of the other flavors and was wondering if any of the online stores have small, sample type bottles, in a sample package so that I can try some other flavors without having to buy a lot of bottles of stuff I might not like?

~Susiejo
The only problem with e-liquid samplers is that you usually can't choose a PG/VG ratio, and it sounds like you need to try higher VG contents to reduce throat irritation. You can usually pick the nicotine % in these samplers, so something around 10-12 mg might be a little smoother and still give you the nicotine you need.

Small bottles (15 mL) at Mt Baker Vapor allow full customization and they start at $5 each. Same thing at another site called ECBlend, but you can get 5 mL bottles starting at $2.50 each. Just let us know if you have any questions about what to order, there are lots of experienced people here that know how it all works :)
 

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Hi susiejo...and really glad you joined us here on ECF !
I think you are doing great...you just need to tweak it alittle.
And all of us will help you figure this out.

Vaporeyes has you covered with drinking more water....drink plenty when you vape.
HorseLady set you up with Mt Baker Vapor...a good juice and good company...
Use the code 'mtbakervapor' at checkout for 10% off their already inexpensive juice.
(I just got a big Vapemail order in from them this afternoon !)

Now, Vaping ....
You mentioned that your hubby was getting 'sore lungs'
When you vape, you should take the vapor into your mouth, holding it for a second or two- then exhale through the mouth and nose.
You get most of the nicotine in Vaping through the mouth and nose tissue...not the deep lung blood vessels like smoking.
(The reason is a long story...short one is the nicotine molecules in Vaping attached to PG/VG are big...like 10 microns, in smoking they are 1 micron small, can be absorbed by deep lung blood vessels immediately and go straight to the brain= head rush. Vaping nic is absorbed slowly, through the mouth tissue...and no head rush.)

So, again...you are right. (Tell hubby, but be gentle)- you need to vape more, and longer that you would smoke a cigarette.
And to keep your nicotine level up, you need to vape more. This may mean that you want a little lower nic concentration so you can vape more and longer. But you and hubby don't want to 'deep lung' the vapor...that will make 'sore lungs' !

Your here, researching and learning....you will succeed !
We are rooting for you !
 

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gotvapes.com has a 6 pack i think of 6ml bottles and you can choose the flavors. also you probably have an ego style battery. does it have threads on the outside and threads in the middle where the hole is?
i just looked your kit up and you do. if you go to gotvapes i would recommend the Kanger T2 replacement Tank/Clearo.
it has a replaceable head so when it wears out you just put in a new one.
so the top unscrews like yours does but also the part that has the wick attached unscrews too and you can change it when it wears out.
They are only 5 or 6 bucks and the replacement heads are less than 2 dollars each.
 
You all have been wonderful. The info here has been great. I have checked out both mt bakers vapor and gotvapes.com and like both sites. I think I'll order from both and see which I like better.
Thanks to everyone for your help. I've also been telling many of the people I know that smoke about vaping, if any of them seem interested I'll give them this site so that they can have the benefit of all the knowledge available here to help them.
See you all on the forums!

~Susiejo
 

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And right now they have a 40% off coupon code, only can be used once so I would recommend saving that for a large order, I got 10 30ml bottles shipped for 100 bucks, havent found a flav I dont like from them yet, all juices are made to order so some fare better with a lil steeping (allow to sit for a week or 2 in a cool, dark place) they age like fine wine :p
 
gotvapes.com has a 6 pack i think of 6ml bottles and you can choose the flavors. also you probably have an ego style battery. does it have threads on the outside and threads in the middle where the hole is?
i just looked your kit up and you do. if you go to gotvapes i would recommend the Kanger T2 replacement Tank/Clearo.
it has a replaceable head so when it wears out you just put in a new one.
so the top unscrews like yours does but also the part that has the wick attached unscrews too and you can change it when it wears out.
They are only 5 or 6 bucks and the replacement heads are less than 2 dollars each.

Thanks, 5150sick, for the advice on the Kanger T2 clearos. I got one and I love it, except the mouth piece broke and I don't have a replacement. I currently have an order in with goodprophets for more of the T2's and some replacement mouth pieces.
I do have another question though, I ordered several bottles of e-liquid from mtbakervapors, all of them are 12mg, and 80 vg- 20 pg, flavors are tobacco, almond amaretto, blueberry, blackberry, kahlua, and they threw in a cherry lemonaid. I like the flavors but they seem a little strong to me and I was wondering if there is some flavorless e-liquid I can get to mix them with to tone down the flavor a bit? I saw where someone on here said that you could get some vg (glycerin) at wal-mart, would that work to tone them down or should I get something else?
I do like the higher vg level, it seems smoother to me.
Thanks for all the help!

~Susiejo
 

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I do have another question though, I ordered several bottles of e-liquid from mtbakervapors, all of them are 12mg, and 80 vg- 20 pg, flavors are tobacco, almond amaretto, blueberry, blackberry, kahlua, and they threw in a cherry lemonaid. I like the flavors but they seem a little strong to me and I was wondering if there is some flavorless e-liquid I can get to mix them with to tone down the flavor a bit?

MtBakerVapors juices need to be steeped cuz they're fresh:
Mt Baker Vapor Talks To Spinfuel's Julia Barnes - The Interview - Spinfuel eCigs Magazine
You can buy Glycerin USP at any Pharmacy in the First Aid Section.
 
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So when they are steeped, does the flavor kinda mellow out? and how long should they steep?
Like I said, I do like the flavors and I would like to be able to vape them, they're just a bit strong.
The tobacco one is fine, it doesn't seem to be as strong as the others so that is what I am currently using.

Juices that need steeping will generally have a strong chemical- like and/ or perfumey odor. Usually the regular method of steeping takes about 1-2 weeks.
 

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Yes, I have noticed a kind of perfumey taste to some of them. Besides the 4 day quick steep method, if I let them set for 1-2 weeks, that will help then? and if I let the set for say 2 weeks, do I leave them capped and just put them in a cool, dark area, or should they be uncapped?

Place them in a dark cupboard and every day shake and uncap to allow fresh air in. The enemies of juice are heat, light and air BUT they can be used to our advantage for steeping.
 
I skimmed the thread to see if anyone mentioned this. Some people, my boss being one, are allergic to propylene glycol (PG), causing strep-like irritation. It does however thin juices. Higher vegetable glycerine (VG) is thicker, and generally doesn't flow, or wick, quite as well. Higher VG juices used in cartotanks can sometimes need three holes or two slots (Most people use a dremel. Please don't try and slot the stainless steel with a knife or razor, the risk for injury is too high in my opinion).

You may not have an allergic reaction as strong as my boss, as his throat pretty much closes up, but you still may have a slight allergy. See if a higher concentration of VG reduces irritation.

Congratulations on not smoking ^.^
 
People smoke differently and they also vape differently - from how they inhale and so one as well as how they react to flavors themselves, the nicotine and the type/amount of glycerin/glycol.

When it comes to something like a dry throat/sore throat consider that nicotine dehydrates mucus membranes so the lower the mgs of nicotine you the less the dehydrating effect. Increasing your water consumption will do the most good. Your throat will become more used to and more resistant to the drying effected after a while, but you could consider a throat spray or cough drop to help in the meantime.

Throat hit from the vapor is also related to the strength of the nicotine you vape. If you find its harder then you like or makes your throat/esophagus sore then you need to consider a low mgs.

As for PG/VG they are more directly related to vapor production and don't really have an effect in the way nicotine does. That said, some people find that PG is not always agreeable to them so if your are sensitive to PG you might want to consider a PG/VG mix. The quickest way to find out if you are more sensitive to PG then most is to try a flavor made with 50 to 100 % VG (vegetable glycerin) and see if that eases your throat. If that solves the problem you can just continue on the per cent you tried or try some other percent mixes ( 20/80, 30/70, 70/30 and so on) for which gives you the best experience.

What is not true is that the number of mgs of nicotine is not necessarily a 1 to 1 correlation with how many cigarettes or pack of cigarettes they used to smoke. Since people smoke differently there are people that smoke as many puffs as possible and inhale every bit of smoke and would definitely be getting a higher level of nicotine in their blood then someone who lets a lot burn to ash, only hits about half the cigarette and does not inhale deeply every time. They can both smoke the same brand cigarette, and the same number and the first will have a higher blood nicotine level then the second. "Light" cigarette vs regular ones don't have less nicotine necessarily (or less anything else - all the bad stuff is the same) it is advertising to refer to the lighter taste (while hoping you will think you are getting less or dropping down a level). So when you smoke lights you do not inhale any less nicotine they have just treated the tobacco to be less harsh and the flavor to be 'lighter'. So a two pack a day smoker of light cigarettes will usually be taking in the same amount of nicotine as a regular flavor brand IF the inhale the same number of puffs the same way.

Just as a rule of thumb for starters with e-liquid the idea that if someone smokes a pack or more a day was at least exposed to more nicotine then a person that smoked half a pack (and someone that smoked two was exposed to more then a pack a day user) so people equate that with the standard nicotine mgs of 18-24, and sometimes 36 mgs for a two pack a day smoker. While that is a starting point whether you need 18 or 24 or can even tolerate a high mgs of nicotine depends on how you smoked. A pack a day, smoking when you talked on the phone, worked on a computer or doing anything else might mean that a lot of each cigarette goes to ash in an ash tray and you are getting way less nicotine then someone who smokes while standing there puffing with each breath and no part of the cigarette burns up without being inhaled.

You could be on the right wavelength thinking you should try/use a lower nicotine mgs. It possible that even 12 mgs may be a stronger you want in a flavor and you might then even consider 6mg. You also want to consider that when you do use a higher strength then you are used to from smoking you can adjust what you end up with in an over time blood level of nicotine by hitting the PV more often or less often. Someone who chain vapes but was a pack a day smoker and goes with 24mg e-juice could find themselves getting ill over too much nicotine while someone who only hits the PV a couple of times and hour but was a pack a day smoker won't get ill at that level - because of the level they get in their blood. If your throat is getting too dry or sore but you want 18mgs or 24 mgs of nicotine for the throat hit feeling you should cut down on how many times you hit the PV in an hour. On the flip side if you hate the feeling of a throat hit and therefore want to use 12-18 mgs instead of 24 then do worry you won't get 'enough nicotine' - you can just adjust how may times you inhale from your PV.

My suggestion, beside what was already suggested that you try a 50/50 PG/VG or 100% VG and then consider how much of each cigarette you smoked when you smoked analogs as well as how many; you need to consider whether you sore throat may also be coming from the throat hit you are getting from 18mg of nicotine. Besides the PG/VG content you might need a much lower strength of nicotine - anywhere from 0mg to whatever amount you find has to harsh of a TH. As a side note I now of one person who went from smoking to vaping to find that although they burned up nearly two packs of cigarettes a day, anything over 6mgs made them feel sick. They liked the act of smoking much more then inhaling a lot of nicotine - a good portion of the time now they use 0mg e-liquid and only use e-liquid with nicotine content a few times a day instead of every time. That's probably not usually going to be the case, and from my own experience and what I have heard what others say at 12mg you should not really get a TH that is noticeable.

So there a a lot of things you can try until you come up with a good combination for you. Everyone goes through that when getting started vaping. For some the first e-liquid and the amount of nicotine they start with, the first battery they buy, the first carto/clearo they use are all perfect for them while for the next guy their start up supplies comes close to driving them to throw the e-cig ut and go back to analog, and then there are so many levels of in between you can't even list them all. Vaping is a personal choice and that personal choice extends to what you use to vape and what you vape. Sometimes it takes a while of trying different things - experimenting so to speak until you find what is best for you
 
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