High End Vape setup

[Tankman77]

Back on topic.......we gotta help James out here!!!
So James I've been following your thread......and Im not sure WHAT your after???
At first you wanted something easy and ready to go......NO FIDDLING or HACKING......
Then, you were taking about rebuilding atomizers and then moved on to dripping???
You wanted something small (mini) for portability, then were talking about Zenesis mods (fiddly and not at work friendly)??
Now Im not sure where you want to go with this?

 

[jamesfarrell]

Thanks Tankman, I appreciate the help. I'm watching videos every night and educating myself on this stuff. I've yet to find a good video on rebuilding an atomizer. I'd like something like this.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...25d1360718949-high-end-vape-setup-dtntlng.jpg

I have the Kgo and the vivi carto clear tanks, but they suck. I don't know if it's the voltage or what but they do not work as well as the atomizers that came with the thing. But it's a mess, adding drops constantly. I'm tired of the thing already. I'm just looking for something small like pictured. With a small tank that is the same or smaller width then the battery holder (whatever that's called - or the mod itself)

I have no problem with rebuilding. I had an initial bad attitude about all of this. Quitting smoking has me in a bad way these days and very short and not much patience. But the fact is that I do love to tinker. That's why I'm into RC cars, play guitar, band, etc.. All I do is tinker. But what bothers me is stuff that does not work. If it does not work than don't offer it for sale, that's all I'm saying.

If I have the right parts and know how to rebuild something, I have not a single problem with tinkering. It's part of this hobby and I want to get into it. But I'm way too aggressive as far as getting an attitude about not knowing everything in 4 days. But at least on day 10, I'll know more than I know now

So I've been looking at the lavatube. I like how they sell everything compatible right on the site. No guesswork. But I'd rather go with the Provari mini, as it seems like a more solid unit. This thing will be with me all the time. The issue is, I don't know what tankomizer would be compatible with the provari mini. I don't want a fat tank that is going to look like a huge object on the mini. Want something that is the same width or smaller.

I would also like the ability to drip. So, I assume if I got the provari mini, I'd need an atomizer made for dripping and a drip tip as well.

That's my thought on this currently.

Thanks for the help.

 

[Leatherneck]

But what bothers me is stuff that does not work. If it does not work than don't offer it for sale, that's all I'm saying.

Things like RBAs work. But much like a RC car kit, you have to put in some effort to maintain and use them. Many RBA's will come pre-built. You can use it for a time when you open up the box, but eventually you will need (or want) to rebuild it. Some wire, a wicking material and a multimeter, along with some fine motor skills are all that's needed.

I've yet to find a good video on rebuilding an atomizer.

They're out there. Just be sure it's the type of RBA you're interested in getting. Check out the RBA section of ECF and you'll find them.

 

[tj99959]

Get one of these:
http://www.reosmods.com/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=28&Itemid=3
and some of these little guys
http://www.reosmods.com/index.php?p...category_id=20&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=3

Gotta warn ya tho' Reo's can be ............ well ............. habit forming Visit the reo sub forum, and you will understand. Reos Mods

 

[albcig]

here is where i get my rebuildables. they are china made and fairly cheap. if you like how they work, then you can go on and buy some expensive ones. most of these don't work proper out of the box so you can tinker these as much as you like. they are very very good once you learn to set them up properly and adjust some features such as bigger screws, slightly wider air hole etc.

Rebuildable Atomizers

the one in your picture seems to be the odysseus or it's counter part the terminator

 

[Meansa]

that's badass

 

[sachavaca]

here is where i get my rebuildables. they are china made and fairly cheap. if you like how they work, then you can go on and buy some expensive ones. most of these don't work proper out of the box so you can tinker these as much as you like. they are very very good once you learn to set them up properly and adjust some features such as bigger screws, slightly wider air hole etc.

Rebuildable Atomizers


the one in your picture seems to be the odysseus or it's counter part the terminator

he needs one that works out of the box, he's just starting and you are recommending items that need air hole size to be changed?.

 

[albcig]

he needs one that works out of the box, he's just starting and you are recommending items that need air hole size to be changed?.

i would recommend anyone to try these cheap ones before spending money on something they might not like afterwards. i made 4 posts about the fact that rebuildables are not recommended for beginners. i myself vape all day long a smoktech carto tank on a spinner and i'm happy as a little kitten. he wanted to explore other devices as well as rebuildables and in my opinion the cheaper chinese ones are a good starting point

 

[sachavaca]

another thing to consider is, if you buy a pv with a 510 connector and buy a rba that screws into the 510 connector, that connection can be a weak spot that is a possible break point. Another item is rba's that only use silica wick, silica may be ok if wet but inhaling silica is bad for you.

my best advise is to watch videos and learn

this guy is one of the best

REVIEW OF THE SILVER DOG V2 ELECTRONIC CIGARETTE - YouTube


here is his website and he list several types of pv's

E-Cig-Reviews.com - Electronic cigarette and E-Liquid video reviews, tutorials, user guides and discount codes

 

[sachavaca]

i would recommend anyone to try these cheap ones before spending money on something they might not like afterwards. i made 4 posts about the fact that rebuildables are not recommended for beginners. i myself vape all day long a smoktech carto tank on a spinner and i'm happy as a little kitten. he wanted to explore other devices as well as rebuildables and in my opinion the cheaper chinese ones are a good starting point

I agree cheap might be good but if it does not work out of the box?. He has no experience to draw from so how would he know anything about air draw. I think items that work properly is a better place to start for him, just my opinion.

 

[jamesfarrell]

Well, I think the provari mini for me would be good. I like this setup. But of course it's "cut down" with no explanation as to what the hell that means. "Smoktech DCT cut down to fit a Standard Boge Single Coil Standard Res carto. I dub it the SmokTech SCT (Single Coil Tank) or Mini SCT. Holds around 3.5ml"

 

[unowner]

i would recommend anyone to try these cheap ones before spending money on something they might not like afterwards. i made 4 posts about the fact that rebuildables are not recommended for beginners. i myself vape all day long a smoktech carto tank on a spinner and i'm happy as a little kitten. he wanted to explore other devices as well as rebuildables and in my opinion the cheaper chinese ones are a good starting point

i agree, when you are starting to venture into RBA area... def start with something cheaper then plunge into more 'expensive' RBAs. i say IMO the genesis, performance wise, are very similiar and the differences are the materials and the build quality. start with a DID clone from DiscountVapers.com and practice with it. It does have bit of a learning curve but once you know the GOOD setup, you will def. appreciate and prefer RBA over anything else out there...

 

[albcig]

Well, I think the provari mini for me would be good. I like this setup. But of course it's "cut down" with no explanation as to what the hell that means. "Smoktech DCT cut down to fit a Standard Boge Single Coil Standard Res carto. I dub it the SmokTech SCT (Single Coil Tank) or Mini SCT. Holds around 3.5ml"

means that the tank holding the liquid has been shortened to match the cartomizer size. the tank normally is longer than that

 

[jamesfarrell]

means that the tank holding the liquid has been shortened to match the cartomizer size. the tank normally is longer than that

Ok, so that's not glass? And whoever did that, just cut down the clear portion. I just figured out that a tank is just a cartomizer inside with a hole in it. Duh!!!! I know what a cartomizer is, used them before with my ego. I think I had boge ones? This was 2 years ago. A guy on youtube green something cuts a slot in the carto.

So let me get this straight. The carto goes into the provari mini, then the metal piece goes on bottom first. Fill, put on top and put on the mouth piece?

Question is what tank / cartomizer do you guys recommend?

I see these, but one guy is complaining about stripped threads or something. The vivi nova V3, 3.5ml is out of stock, so that must be a better one I assume, since it's out of stock.

510 DCT Cartomizer Tank - Small

 

[Bullette the Cowdog]

Vivi Nova is a type of clearomizer. It has wicks. It is totally different from a cartomizer slotted & placed inside a tank holding juice.

 

[vaptamist]

does have bit of a learning curve but once you know the GOOD setup, you will def. appreciate and prefer RBA over anything else out there...

I have to disagree here that he will definitely prefer RBA over anything else out there - I've tried over 2 dozen rebuildables of different types (high quality ones, not cheap knockoffs), and while they did perform really well, I just did not enjoy the rebuilding part at all. Everyone has a different "convenience vs hassle" threshold, so mileage will vary. In the end, I definitely prefer not building my own coils.

 

[albcig]

510 DCT Cartomizer Tank - Small

that's the ones i'm using. fits any 510 and looks good on ego type batteries

 

[jamesfarrell]

Vivi Nova is a type of clearomizer. It has wicks. It is totally different from a cartomizer slotted & placed inside a tank holding juice.

Do you replace the wicks or just buy a whole new unit? I have the vivi nova with my kgo, I find they don't work nearly as well as the atomizer.

 

[Bullette the Cowdog]

Do you replace the wicks or just buy a whole new unit? I have the vivi nova with my kgo, I find they don't work nearly as well as the atomizer.

Yep. I agree. I tried the Vivi Nova with my Kgo too. Same experience. I didn't get any flavor.

If you take the Vivi apart, you will see the "head" containing the strings or wicks. That little tiny piece unscrews from the rest of the post. It is that "head" with the wicks that you can replace very inexpensively. Then you reuse the rest of the Vivi...clean it...refill it or whatever. I just threw mine away cuz I didn't like it. LOL

 

[jamesfarrell]

Hate wasting money on ..... that doesn't work. Drives me insane. This is what really aggravates me about this crap. Plus, instead of trying to educate people, these sites just don't want to deal with noobs with their typical "this mod is not for noobs" It's enough to make me go back to smoking cigarettes. This whole thing really disgusts me. I'm trying hard to have patience, but I'm already aggravated.

I'm at the point of putting up a post and offering someone $1000 to help me start to finish and I'm not kidding. I guess, I'm either going to have to go provari, or lavatube or something like that. I'm not waiting 2 years for a shiny frign battery case. I know, I need to relax.