high ohm single coils
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Good info; if 10 wraps fit in a protank head, I should be able to manage that in the T3S; or at least 9. But I really do need to get one of those torches so the coils will stay tightly together, it's the only way I'm gonna be able to fit it. So I guess I'm making a microcoil out of sheer lack of space! Amazon has a pretty good price on those little torches, or maybe Harbor Freight; I'm 100% certain I can interest my husband in a trip to Harbor Freight; it's like taking me to a book or computer or gardening store.
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Andria
I just used one of the many cigarette lighters I still have lying around;
and before wicking the coil I dry burned it too;
seems fine.
hey my eyes can't tell if its really a compact coil anyway
Ok, 2.1 is acceptable. I need one of those magnifier doohickeys too, and that helping hand! Seems like you need FOUR hands to get this done!
The other half is working for a friend tomorrow, getting the yard in shape for spring -- which will provide the funds for that sigelei I'm ordering! But Sunday I'm sure he'd love a trip to Harbor Freight.
Andria
I'm waiting for one of these on a slow boat from china:
OH MY GOSH!! I could use those for SO many things. Coils, DIY stuff, work, reading... my glasses fail me.
Not wrong Andria. What you can fit into a kanger head using kanthal and making them compressed (touching) coils that I have found is 12 wraps of 28g for ~1.8 ohms, 14 wraps of 30G for ~2.5 ohms, 16 wraps of 32g for ~3.2 ohms(32g 5 wrap is stock 2.2 ohm) and 20 wraps of 34g for ~5 ohm on a 5/64ths bit. If you go with a 2mm id coil you can add .2-1 ohm depending on guage and 2.2mm(biggest that won't short out on the chimney) you can add ~.4-1.2 ohm depending on guage. 30G is probably the most versatile guage since you can wrap ~1.5 up to ~4.5 ohm coils easily. YOu just have to adjust coil wraps as well as coil I.D. to get the right length of wire in the coil.So, it would seem that if I want higher-ohm coils for my T3S, then whoever told me that 30ga wire was "right", just wasn't thinking right; they told me "11 or 12 wraps with 30ga" but I gotta say, I really don't think 11 or 12 wraps are going to fit in a T3S head, they're so tiny. Apparently I now need to get 32ga wire, if I want it to fit in the T3S and still get ohms above 2.5.
I'm really tired of buying stuff that turns out to be wrong.
Andria
"Just a thought ive been having lately and I cant find an answer for the life of me.
Everyone talks about sub ohming and going lower and lower on the ohms. Not my cup of tea. Yes i can wrap the coils that low i just have no desire to do so. But what about higher ohm vaping. Instead of dual coils running at 1.5 ohm on a rda what about wrapping a single coil at like 3.5 or 4 ohm range using28 or 30 ga wire to give more surface area than a standard single coil at 1.5 ohm or even 2 ohm? Any advantage or disadvantage to running say a 3.5 ohm micro or nano coil? Any dangers to be aware of? "
Hey dirty_luck,
A micro or nano coil that is at about 3.5ohms would be to long. The issue with it would be it will take for ever to heat up, and it would have like thirty wraps so it will be a pain to wick. You can vape 3.5ohm coils but they would have to be macro coils. It will cost more in kanthal as well because you will be using huge strands. Try going for about 1.5 to 2.0 resistance to stay practical.
Everyone talks about sub ohming and going lower and lower on the ohms. Not my cup of tea. Yes i can wrap the coils that low i just have no desire to do so. But what about higher ohm vaping. Instead of dual coils running at 1.5 ohm on a rda what about wrapping a single coil at like 3.5 or 4 ohm range using28 or 30 ga wire to give more surface area than a standard single coil at 1.5 ohm or even 2 ohm? Any advantage or disadvantage to running say a 3.5 ohm micro or nano coil? Any dangers to be aware of? "
Hey dirty_luck,
A micro or nano coil that is at about 3.5ohms would be to long. The issue with it would be it will take for ever to heat up, and it would have like thirty wraps so it will be a pain to wick. You can vape 3.5ohm coils but they would have to be macro coils. It will cost more in kanthal as well because you will be using huge strands. Try going for about 1.5 to 2.0 resistance to stay practical.
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If you look at the sun with that it will burn a hole through your retina!!!
I think you're making a lot of sense here edyle. I have not explored the Peukert's number concept to get a real understanding of exactly how it works, but it would not surprise me if it turned out to be totally internal resistance driven.
I'm still thinking it's not resistance driven though as far as the battery is concerned. I see it more as a discharge rate thing. So, in a mechanical mod the lower the resistance the faster the battery drains. In a regulated mod, the higher you set the voltage or the watts the faster the battery drains. Yes, if you're using lower resistance you are drawing more power, but it's power that determines the discharge rate, not the resistance.
Vape on
So, it would seem that if I want higher-ohm coils for my T3S, then whoever told me that 30ga wire was "right", just wasn't thinking right; they told me "11 or 12 wraps with 30ga" but I gotta say, I really don't think 11 or 12 wraps are going to fit in a T3S head, they're so tiny. Apparently I now need to get 32ga wire, if I want it to fit in the T3S and still get ohms above 2.5.
I'm really tired of buying stuff that turns out to be wrong.
Andria
Because I am still learning, I bought 30 and 32 in 10 foot pack from Desert Vapes at less than $3 each. Then I got 50 foot of each from Lightning for less than $7. Still cheaper than a couple of packs of smokes a day. Anyway I will experiment with each. I bought a cheap RDA to try things with too. I found that to be good for heating new built coils to squeeze with tweezers since nothing is in the way.
Besides, a month or year from now some new thing will come along needing the other size wire.
Meanwhile, I read this thread because I am interested in figuring out if I need higher or lower ohm coils. Sub ohmers seem to be all about big clouds. That leads me to believe that if I want good vapor production, I need to lower my builds. But then I read about higher builds and get confused. I have MVP, VV3, ego twist and a 18350 mod. I got the mod for something small and different than an ego 650. I started using >2 Ω coils to extend the battery life.
It just makes me crazy to read someone's post that you don't know flavor until you sub ohm at high watts and I get just fine taste with a $2 clearo at 2.5 on a 650 ego. What am I not getting???
It just makes me crazy to read someone's post that you don't know flavor until you sub ohm at high watts and I get just fine taste with a $2 clearo at 2.5 on a 650 ego. What am I not getting???
It's all a matter of personal taste and preference. Until you've tried sub ohm vaping you won't know if you're missing something. Likewise with high ohm vaping. But, if you're happy with what you've got, why change it? If you have the time and money to keep chasing the perfect vape it might be worthwhile to explore all avenues, but many of us don't have the luxury. So what it comes down to is the old saying, "to each their own".
I'm waiting for one of these on a slow boat from china:
You will be very very sorry you got that model !
I had one [exactly] like it ... It did not work worth a crap. Threw it in the trash!
I have had this magnifier from Amazon for about a year now. There are definitely better quality products out there, but this has been doing the job well for me.
I think you're making a lot of sense here edyle. I have not explored the Peukert's number concept to get a real understanding of exactly how it works, but it would not surprise me if it turned out to be totally internal resistance driven.
I'm still thinking it's not resistance driven though as far as the battery is concerned. I see it more as a discharge rate thing. So, in a mechanical mod the lower the resistance the faster the battery drains. In a regulated mod, the higher you set the voltage or the watts the faster the battery drains. Yes, if you're using lower resistance you are drawing more power, but it's power that determines the discharge rate, not the resistance.
Vape on
I have probably lost track of whatever it was you were talking about so I don't know what you're saying; or why you mention a regulated mod.
What I do think is that people who sub ohm need to be clear on internal resistance of the battery so they understand how it relates to their vape.
Battery EMF = (Output current) x (Coil Resistance + Battery Internal Resistance).
When the Battery Internal Resistance is small compared to the Coil Resistance, then you get
V=IR
, but when you use very low Coil Resistance you get "Voltage Drop" because now its:
E=I(R+r)
or this instead...
get the right too instead of looking like a tool
Oh; I got one of those already except for the light; if I wanna use it I get an extension cord with a light and try position it.
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