Has anyone ever had custom atomizers made for them from a Chinese company for vaping with the higher voltages?
High Voltage Atomizers
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not sure a higher voltage atomizer would do much. If you thicken the coil or add any *beef* to it per say, resistance increases, which in turn, makes the atomizer take longer to heat up, and drain the batteries faster.
I have heard of extra life atties but not those. Pretty much the consensus as i understood on the double life atties was 50 said good and 50 said bad
Gaunt, not too sure if you caught what Steve is trying to say. You can't have the positive of a high voltage atomizer without the negative points he has pointed out. Yes it would be tougher but the experience wouldn't be the same.
To be honest I have found that 6v is just a tad too much really, it just burns through the juice worse than a American V-8 built in the 60's did on gas! It is also real easy to get a crap taste with it since it burns the juice so fast. I think a bit beefier atomizer built to handle something like 5v would be perfect, satisfying the heavy hit seekers and I imagine it would improve the standard design a great deal making it much closer to a tobacco cigarette. Battery life would definitely be an issue though, the m401 battery is a workhorse I wonder how long it would hold up putting out 4.7 - 5.2 v ?
and to do that, you would need to *beef* things up a bit, which in turn, increases resistance.
Ok I understand, but then if that is the case, then why is there such a big deal about the "special" atomizers that are being made for the GG products?
Because what Imeo is doing with that atomizer is attempting to emulate the sweet spot you get at 5v, but at six volts. The idea being to keep a design "immortal" so the PV itself can be completely mechanical rather than rely on an electronic component that could fail. So basically, if you can dig this, moving the resistor from the PV to the atomizer itself and making that resistor disposable kinda. Almost a cartomizer approach to the sweet spot.
Hope that made sense.
Makes sense Zo ... Increases resistance (.5 ohm or so) in the atomizer thus not needing a separate resistor. If IMEO prices them like Cartomizers, that's one thing, but I highly highly doubt that ... I did notice you wrote disposable, but not cheap ... so I'll keep it at that
Interesting. Thank you for the explanation. So basically these atomizers would be ideal to use in any big battery mod because it would emulate the 5v sweet spot in a 6v mod that did not have a resistor. But what is it that keeps them cool and not heating up like other atomizers the built in resistor?
This stuff is fascinating it is a science onto itself.
This stuff is fascinating it is a science onto itself.
So if you had a company make a bunch of atomizers increasing the resistance of them by .5 ohm (just an example) this would duplicate the what Imeo is doing?
Yup ... You pretty much summed it up Gaunt
(assuming that is what imeo is doing -- not sure what he is doing)nope ... increasing the atty resistance will just make it take a bit longer to heat up. It will also decrease the actual voltage of the circuit.
Would this basically negate the benefits of 6V vaping then? I have a new penstyle atty that works great at 3.7V, the vapor tastes burnt at 6V. My higher resistance atty's give horrible vapor at 3.7V and a much nicer vapor at 6V.
5V however does seem to maintain a sweet spot, I really like my passthrough with any atty.
Pretty Much Renaissance ....
You add extra resistance to the atomizer, and you won't see 6v ...
THUS, the reason why I encourage everyone to test and see what they are running under *true* loaded voltage ....
For instance .... my PS PT with 901 atty (although showing 5.07v+ at brass with button pushed) actually only puts out about 4.2 - 4.3v's, and this loaded voltage will vary depending on atomizer used ....
Innovapor had the 'new attys' a while back and there was such a controversy about who made them, etc. that I think they were chased off the market. Frankly, even though they were mis-sized a tad - the 901 0 type carts fit them well, (but not the regular 510 carts), I'd like to have about 25 of them. I got 6. In fairness to Innovapor, I think they were told something - that they were Joye, when they weren't - but then posted what they were told about them. Later taken down.
Whether the attys will hold up to the longer life/stronger parameters remains to be seen but the one's I have in rotation are holding up well. Then again, I have only one atty that is underperforming in 4 months.. (knock on wood).
Whether the attys will hold up to the longer life/stronger parameters remains to be seen but the one's I have in rotation are holding up well. Then again, I have only one atty that is underperforming in 4 months.. (knock on wood).
This really makes me want to get one of those variable voltage tekkon power packs and use USB passthrough on it. This way no matter which atty I am using I can tune the power pack appropriately and get the right vapor.
It's either that, or slowly work my atty's up from 3.7V devices up to 6V devices.
It's either that, or slowly work my atty's up from 3.7V devices up to 6V devices.
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