Higher nicotine- fewer puffs

[sequins]

I see a lot of people complaining about how higher nicotine (24/mg+) Are too strong. I'm using the highest Blu ones now (I think they max out at 16) and don't really get enough and am getting my own e-liquid instead. I'm just wondering whether it's ok or the same to just get a higher nicotine liquid and just vape less. I.e. 16 mg takes 20 puffs, so 10 puffs of 24 mg or 5 puffs of 36 mg. It doesn't work that way with different 'strengths' of analogs since they are all the same length to smoke down, but I was wondering whether it works with e-cigs?

For the nicotine content it feels to me to just be more cost effective to get the high nicotine liquids since they're the same price generally whether you get 0 mg or 36mg. So would it be cheaper to just get 36 or 24 but you can take 4-5 puffs at a time, and stretch each one longer?

 

[mooreted]

Some people find the higher nic juice to be too harsh or they get dizzy with a headache from it. YMMV.

 

[dormouse]

You are using a weak small ecig. If it's not enough for you with 24mg, consider a better ecig - either more voltage like KR808D-1 or a much bigger battery like Ego which can use low resistance cartomizers to get more heat (heat enhances nicotine's hit).

Re higher nic and fewer drags - the question is, would you REALLY take fewer drags? I know I wouldn't.


BTW - also, Blu uses VG juices and VG dulls nicotine's hit. If you uses something like 80PG/20VG with the same nic, you will get more hit (but thinner vapor). If you switch to a manual battery ecig, you can also get more hit (but never put Blu in any other charger even if it is the same threading and never put another model in Blue's charger - Blu 510-threaded but reverse electrical polarity)

 

[player30]

36mg would be way too much nic for me. 18mg is the highest I have gone, and I now vape 6mg. I like being a chain vaper, and so I keep my nic low. If I could vape 5 puffs every hour or so, I might like the higher nic, but my e-cig rarely leaves my hand!! But everyone has a different style.

 

[JQside]

I see a lot of people complaining about how higher nicotine (24/mg+) Are too strong. I'm using the highest Blu ones now (I think they max out at 16) and don't really get enough and am getting my own e-liquid instead. I'm just wondering whether it's ok or the same to just get a higher nicotine liquid and just vape less.

Yes. That's what I've mentioned in the other thread. To me as long as I get the throat hit to satisfy the craving, I'd rather stop after ten-twenty minutes. Just like when smoking real cigs. Also when smoking real cigs we pose for a while between puffs. That's exactly what I'm trying to do with my PV now. Treat it like a real cig, not a device to vape like a chimney.

;-)

 

[Boodle]

You're not alone. I see a lot of complaints about the 16mg Blu cartos not being quite enough nic wise. The blu disposables they sell in Walgreens are 24mg, then you get a kit and it doesn't satisfy a crave. You're on the right track getting a higher nic juice. You might try two small samples of the same flavor in 18 and 24mg. One or the other or the two mixed might be just right. As far as puffing less, I hope you don't worry about it too much. Vape when you want. You're not smoking and that's incredible. You'll taper off a little over time. I vape much more than I smoked because 1.) I can vape almost anywhere 2.) I enjoy the flavors 3.) The nic through vaping isn't carried to my lungs by tar, sticking to them and delivering nic for a longer period so I need to vape more often.

I stressed over nic levels in the beginning and tried to reduce my mg too fast. I'm enjoying the vaping journey at 18mg now, down from 24mg after 9 months. You may be at zero by then. We're all different. Hope you find your happy spot quickly

 

[southernIL]

Higher Nic = Less sleep for me I also chain vape low or high nic!

 

[sequins]

Wow thanks for the quick replies - I just got the blu pack from a friend who well moved on =P And I figure it'd be a good starter kit to start off on - and the pcc etc. makes it a convenient travel pack. Does anyone know if any other cartomizers that they'd sell empty fits the blu? (preferably fits in the pack too) - also I didnt know the battery made that much difference besides lasting different amounts of times. Always thought the biggest difference was in the atomizer portion - and the only benefits from an ego or something with a bigger battery was it'd last longer between charges?

 

[swedishfish]

Everyone has a different style of vaping. I vape higher nicotine, but I don't vape a lot. Some people prefer to vape all day long and vape lower nicotine juice. I found when I vaped low nicotine, the pv was in my mouth 24/7. Not that there is anything wrong with that. There's no real right or wrong.

 

[sequins]

Ok that's good to know - I guess I'll just have to experiment some to find out.

 

[swedishfish]

You'll figure it out.

I've been having sleep problems recently. Don't know why, but I've been vaping lower nicotine at night. It might be helping a little bit, it's hard to tell. I have new pinapple juice from Vapor Bomb that I seriously can't stop vaping. It's like crack. I think I might order some of that in lower nicotine.

 

[whatitstrue]

My sugetion is get a few small bottles like 3ml of different strength juices and give it a try for your self. What works for me might not work for you. I vape 30mg alot and 24mg juices. I still vape about the same amount with both. I use to do 18mg and I was chain vaping non stop and was never satisfied. So see what works for you.

And diferent PV's make a huge difference. its not only the mah (lenght the batteries last) but the volts at which you vape. Those lower voltage Pvs do nothing for me. 3.7v is about the minimum vaping voltage for me personaly, thats with a lr atty or carto.

Good luck on your jurney and stick with it!!

 

[Marb]

I vaped like crazy when I started out on 6mg (whoops). Switched to refilling my own at 18mg and it tapered off a bit. Experiment and keep some straight PG/VG handy in case the nic turns out to be too high for you.

As for PV's, I went from a KR8 to an eGo clone (3.7v for both), mostly to cut down on the "charging-roulette" I was doing with the small batts. As stated earlier, another big plus with the bigger batts is being able to use heftier equipment. For example, an EMDCC gives very strong hits, but it would be nearly impossible to use with a small batt.

 

[Green Mtn Vpr]

A battery can make a big diff because of voltage and therefore more wattage to the juice (some are 3.2, some 3.7, some 808's are even 4.2 for a bit when freshly charged and run down to 3.7). Yes, bigger=more capacity, but more importantly for satisfaction, more voltage=more wattage=TH.

But to speak to your original question, a higher nic did equate to more satisfaction and less vaping for me. At too low a nic I was finding myself chain vaping, but when I went to 18mg a few hits here and there did the job. I also found variable voltage allowed a stronger hit/much more TH, even with lower nic liquids, and also kept me from needing to chain. Madvapes sells a cheap VV box mod...edit: low cost, not cheap. VV can really bring out flavor...every juice has a 'sweet spot'.

Bottom line, the right combo of eqpt and liquid makes all the difference! Find the setup that works for you. The classifieds also allow the opp to try various thin without full investment as well an outlet for what might not have been your ideal.

 

[Tull]

I've found that I vape about 1-2ml p/d at 24mg and around 4+ at 18mg.

 

[Alac]

<snip>. Does anyone know if any other cartomizers that they'd sell empty fits the blu? (preferably fits in the pack too)

510 cartos fit the battery, and might squeaz into the pack (I was able to get 2 to fit with nothing else in the carto area)

306 Cartos are an almost direct match, I've had a few not screew on all the way.

Whichever you may use , make sure it is the SR (standard resistance.. 2.8-3.0 ohm)
LR will destroy the little batteries.

 

[hairball]

I vape like I smoked so going any higher would leave me sick. I vape 18mgs all day, every day. I keep a bottle of 24mgs around for really stressful days.

 

[Rickajho]

All very good replies with great suggestions.

Your overall premise makes sense, with a couple of caveats. One thing that would help us help you is to tell us what you were smoking. What brand and how many packs or cigarettes a day?

If you go along with your original idea buy some zero mg unflavored liquid too. That way you can cut the nic level as much as you need to if what you get is too high. You will lose some flavor doing this, but you won't be without anything at all to vape either.

Do keep in mind this isn't a matter of "vaping economy", so to speak. Cycling yourself up and down with too high a nicotine level while trying to vape less of it won't be any fun and could produce unpleaseant side effects. Remember you don't get the nicotine into you system quick and dirty like with cigarettes. It gets in a lot more slowly like it does with nic gum or a nic inhaler. Overall, you are seeking a nic level that you want to vape on a consistent basis. Only chasing cravings with a very high nic level liquid wouldn't be the way to do this.

As other people suggested: Get small sample bottles in at least 3 different strengths. I would also suggest you get at least one of each in 100% PG and 100% VG. If you find you have a sensitivity problem to PG or VG, you will have the other to switch to.

It takes some time to figure this out. If you feel you are vaping too much, but probably more importantly find you have frequent and strong "wanna cigarette" cravings, it would most likely be time to move the nic level up. Rather than just vaping more and more at a lower level.

Play! You never hear that word associated with quit smoking programs, do you? You have permission to play. While you are transitioning you may find you need a higher nic level in the morning. But not so much in the afternoon while at work. So drop it down if you want. Me? For whatever reason the cravings reared up again late at night. So up went the nic levels for a few hours after 08:00 p.m.

It's a different experience for everyone. And that's the beauty - you get to make this your own experience, what you need, and adjust accordingly. Within the day, week to week, after a couple months... Change it up and play!

 

[Green Mtn Vpr]

some of the best advice I've read in a long time!!

That is the absolute beauty of this vaping...it is actually enjoyable!! Lets be real...analogs never were beyond the nic satisfaction. The vaping possibilities are endless between flavors, equipment and there is as much information n support as you can imagine here to help figure it out. Try, play, enjoy!

...Play! You never hear that word associated with quit smoking programs, do you? You have permission to play....It's a different experience for everyone. And that's the beauty - you get to make this your own experience, what you need, and adjust accordingly. Within the day, week to week, after a couple months... Change it up and play!

 

[RobGD]

Once you understand your equipment, and then what you need from it, vaping seems to become second nature. In the beginning it's fun to mess with, but it can also be frustrating if you get a kit that doesn't work for you. Little batteries are a big discouraging factor for new vapers. If you find yourself waiting for a battery all the time grab an ego or some other large battery kit. After I did that it was smooth sailing.